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Destiny |OT19| Raiders of the Lost
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Ruthless_Barbarian
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Get rid of B-line trauma.
Personally I don't even bother with legendary primaries if they don't have elemental damage.
wow. i'm going to use my gjallahorn like that... way cooler. If I locked on and shoot 90 degrees into the air it will avoid all cover the hit them on the top of the head!
AmateurHour212
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What RL is that? Truth?
Ruthless_Barbarian
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It's what you don't got.
Do you have inside info that the Comet team is currently pretty large GhaleonEB?
I would have to guess that HoW is finished and whatever changes they made to it based upon the feedback reception they got for TDB were small. They may have tinkered with the light levels of the vendor gear and the raid gear, and maybe hopefully they changed somewhat the costs associated with the reXurbish system, and hopefully they got rid of the resets of the weapon perks, and maybe they'll change the way we upgrade our new gear and fix the shard economies and reduce the grind, but I would guess that the armor and the weapons and the encounter designs were pretty much finished a long time ago.
Hopefully Comet with it's larger team and new product for sale to most of us comes with much better designed systems that incorporate a lot of the player feedback.
I think the issue is that a lot of people would not pay $5 a month or give Destiny a chance if it had a subscription fee. This is a new type of model that Bungie is trying out and I guess it is to be determined how it does. Those of us in here would pay more for more content but would the rest of the players?
AmateurHour212
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... Of course it is...
Unfortunately, quite a few here won't pay either (I don't mind paying for products that I enjoy immensely). That's why I think they should something like Bungie Pro - an optional program that gives extra to people that want it, and provides another revenue stream. Something how Shark Cards are funding Rockstar.
PrivateWHudson
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If the plan is a two year cycle for D1, then we're looking at:
2 x $20 DLC
$40 comet
2x $20 DLC
$120/24 months for a grand total of $5/month
I don't see why they can't have a sustain team like an mmo.
BreezyLimbo
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I was this close to buying Dragons Breath, but it's no replacement for my disappointment.
Gheleon's Demise is the best of the bunch by far w/ those perks. If you were only keeping two, I'd say Gheleon & Badger.
Yeah, we get DLC and such, but everything in-between is lacking. QOL updates are almost nonexistent and proper weapon balancing is a wives' tale.
GuitarAtomik
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I'm cool with Dragon's Breath not having tracking. They just need to buff it in other areas like add burn DOT to anyone caught in the solar wake. If you want to get crazy, add firefly explosions to enemies killed by the solar wake. Basically turn it in to a Radiant Sunsinger gun. Maybe up the base velocity and give it proximity detonation too. OR keep the velocity slow, but make the rocket actually be the solar flare in flight which would add burn DOT to anyone it grazes.
I think his point was that their DLC model offers them a revenue stream roughly equivalent to a 5 US$ monthly fee, and they should this be held to a higher standard in terms of offering sustained support.
Not just quickly balancing weapons and squishing bugs but actually adding content. I feel the most underused asset in the game are Patrol areas. They should allow 6 person Fireteams to Patrol together and make a ton of new, interesting, difficult Public Events with rewards worth seeking. Imagine a red exclamation point over the moon - load Patrol in a 5-6 man team and find a crazy Public Event.
This kind of silly idea would go a long way towards making the game feel fresh using existing assets. They could spice up NF rotation with new modifiers, like: no/reduced super, no ____ ammo, a time limit. Who knows.
This kind of update wouldn't require the same amount of work as designing new Strikes and Raids. But a constant stream of new stuff to do, even if it's in areas and against enemies that we've already seen, would keep things fresh.
I saw what you wrote before the edit!
BreezyLimbo
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It sucks that their skeleton team for Destiny is small. The game is suffering because of it, having rare patches.
AND THEY SHOULD HIRE ME, BECAUSE I KNOW HOW TO MAKE THE GAME FUN.
Make Dragons Breath like, just be a stream of FIRE.
Edit-They should also add in enchantments for gear. Might as well.
AND THEY SHOULD HIRE ME, BECAUSE I KNOW HOW TO MAKE THE GAME FUN.
Make Dragons Breath like, just be a stream of FIRE.
Edit-They should also add in enchantments for gear. Might as well.
Blue Ninja
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I try hard not to be all insidery. Whoops!
Tell us what you know, Ghaleon.
Rollo Tomasi
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Surprisingly didn't have the Sunbreakers so I will be picking them up for my Warlock.
Thinking about upgrading my Achylophage Symbiote too as that is a sweet roll on discipline compared to the one I have (100).
Not a bad haul from Mr. Xur but it could be better. This surplus of strange coins I'm sitting on gotta be used sometime I guess.
Thinking about upgrading my Achylophage Symbiote too as that is a sweet roll on discipline compared to the one I have (100).
Not a bad haul from Mr. Xur but it could be better. This surplus of strange coins I'm sitting on gotta be used sometime I guess.
PrivateWHudson
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I try hard not to be all insidery. Whoops!
Spill it. At least a hint.
I really like the suggestions of spicing up patrol. That could go a long way to giving people things to do between reset activities and not require a lot of new asset work.
I think I saw a suggestion of having raid bosses appear with a team of body guards walking around on patrols. I think that's a cool idea and they could do a lot of fun things with it.
In terms of HoW and progression, I think we will see things very similar to how it was with TDB and that progression won't really change until Comet.
I think I saw a suggestion of having raid bosses appear with a team of body guards walking around on patrols. I think that's a cool idea and they could do a lot of fun things with it.
In terms of HoW and progression, I think we will see things very similar to how it was with TDB and that progression won't really change until Comet.
From the this week's update.
" Fixing bugs for the Raid is most challenging in two ways: figuring out went wrong and devising a safe way to fix it that wont break the rest of the game."
Funny, they don't appear to apply the same to cheeses, as it seems they always introduce new issues when fixing cheese.
I imagine it goes something like this -
Team Lead - "We have to fix Crota infinite kneeling problem quickly"
Programmer - "I came up with a quick hack, but it may cause Crota to behave badly."
Team Lead - "Put the fix in! Raids are hard, we're just making it harder!"
" Fixing bugs for the Raid is most challenging in two ways: figuring out went wrong and devising a safe way to fix it that wont break the rest of the game."
Funny, they don't appear to apply the same to cheeses, as it seems they always introduce new issues when fixing cheese.
I imagine it goes something like this -
Team Lead - "We have to fix Crota infinite kneeling problem quickly"
Programmer - "I came up with a quick hack, but it may cause Crota to behave badly."
Team Lead - "Put the fix in! Raids are hard, we're just making it harder!"
PrivateWHudson
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More under used than the gunsmith? But yeah, you put it much better than I could have. I don't know what the budget looks like, and maybe the DLC is still paying off a portion of the start up costs of the main game, BUT I hope HoW makes enough that they can hire a small QoL team to add easy content between DLC's.
Absolutely more patrol stuff is needed. Different missions, events ect. Hell, have a dev spend ten minutes slapping a fun decal like the Bengal on some of the Legendary guns. Add colorful versions of the VoG weapons.. I'd regrind the Templar for a 331 lime green Fatebringer.(or weapon shaders, but that can be a Comet thing since it's more of a systems change than just mixing up assets).
^ Bungie see's raid cheese as game breaking I think.
And they see raid bugs as a minor annoyance I imagine.
Activision stated long ago to their investors that Destiny was profitable on after Day 1 sales.
Sorry for the double post.
Blue Ninja
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Got this baby yesterday, now it's ready for the big leagues. They grow up so fast. *sniff*
I don't think I've ever done as much bounties as I've done today. :lol Upgraded a shit-ton of stuff, ran out of glimmer, farmed more glimmer and then ran out of glimmer again. Feels goodman.gif
I don't think I've ever done as much bounties as I've done today. :lol Upgraded a shit-ton of stuff, ran out of glimmer, farmed more glimmer and then ran out of glimmer again. Feels goodman.gif
First time I did Sardon I thought he was tough. Pop two Horn rockets and watch his health go down...down...oh wait more Wolfpacks...oh shit that poor guy.
I think that's probably it. Bungie has said before that they want loot to feel earned, and in the case of raids, cheeses take that away somewhat. While persevering through bugs can actually make the loot (for those who get it, *sob*) feel even more earned, somewhat perversely. So they prioritize things that interfere with the loot grind first, then address other issues later. We saw this with the speed of how they patched up the loot cave, but only later took steps to address the dearth of rewards that drove people to the cave in the first place. That seems to be the same pattern when it comes to raid glitches.
I really didn't think I said anything that wasn't something we couldn't infer from public sources, TBH. (Which is all I ever do.
) We know Comet was originally planned as the the lone major expansion for the game via the long ago leaked contract (now clearly outdated). We know Bungie has said they plan to release another update this fall, that they've teased new destinations (Mercury, Saturn) which would take a lot of resources to build, that they have over 500 people working on Destiny, CE has shipped, HoW must be largely wrapped by now, and that Destiny 2 is still a long ways off. I think that adds up to a decent proportion of the studio working on Comet. Even if it's only 40% of the studio at this point, with the balance on sustain and Destiny 2, that's still a 200 person team working on Comet. Most full games don't have teams of that size.Ruthless_Barbarian
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I can, in about 15-20 mins.
PrivateWHudson
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I think that's probably it. Bungie has said before that they want loot to feel earned, and in the case of raids, cheeses take that away somewhat. While persevering through bugs can actually make the loot (for those who get it, *sob*) feel even more earned, somewhat perversely. So they prioritize things that interfere with the loot grind first, then address other issues later. We saw this with the speed of how they patched up the loot cave, but only later took steps to address the dearth of rewards that drove people to the cave in the first place. That seems to be the same pattern when it comes to raid glitches.
I really didn't think I said anything that wasn't something we couldn't infer from public sources, TBH. (Which is all I ever do.
I didn't see it before you edited, and was hoping you had dropped a bomb on us. I'm pretty sure it's safe to assume the breakdown of the 500 employees goes something like this:
200 marketing
100 D2
50 networking
50 bean counters
50 Comet
25 Web/Mobile app
10 Raids
10 Catering
2 HoW story and Strikes
2 Grimoire and names for guns
1 DeeJ
Bugs and QoL are done during lunch breaks.
Thanks! I'll jump on!
FWIW, I will never, ever do that, whatever I may hypothetically know or not know. Even back to the Halo days where I lucky enough to not only know of things like DLC plans but to play maps well before they were even announced, I never uttered a word about it. I take things shared in confidence seriously.
And also, the ninjas. The ninjas are real. They're probably watching me right n
Ruthless_Barbarian
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What's your PSN?
Vernonhillz - we should already be friends
Ruthless_Barbarian
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Yup. Anyone else need gorgon checkpoint? Normal or hard?
200 on marketing? That's a bit much
PrivateWHudson
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lol...nice.
Playing a map before it's released sounds like too much funl
That was the point. I wanted to make sure that I set it up as a joke post from the start.
I realize your joking but I believe Bungie does not handle their own marketing for the most part they outsource it.
Then just change the 200 marketing to 200 managers.
Mutanthands
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This. I've got a GTX 970 ready to run this baby at 60 FPS. Let me transfer my save, and I'll be all over it.
Maybe they don't feel like they have the staff to properly debug and police a PC version. Imagining what the hackers might do to the game must give Bungie fits, considering how control freakish they've been so far.
Thanks for the hookup Death! Lame shards today, but gotta keep trying every week!
Bungie has been developing on tightly controlled consoles for a long long time. It sounds like they have their hands full just working on four consoles.
And the way they treat the console versions, it doesn't look like they want to open their game up to the possibility of hacks and mods from the PC community.
And the way they treat the console versions, it doesn't look like they want to open their game up to the possibility of hacks and mods from the PC community.
I could use either if you're still on. PSN: Nonoriri-ko
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