Phaethon0017
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I scarp because I carp.
When you have over 600 Shards/Energy it's just as easy to dismantle as deposit.
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Destiny |OT20| HoW Comes, No Raid?
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I scarp because I carp.
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BreezyLimbo
Banned
...? Current players can upgrade too tho.
blazeuk
Member
They really should keep vendor gear at the same level as their main PoE/ToO/Raid gear, I know they want to make it special but it's ridiculous that everyone ends up looking the same when they have tons of vendor gear that goes ignored. I'd love to have my 3 characters wearing a different outfit from each faction but right now there's no point since I'd be stuck at 31.
brianjones
Member
you could still do that for any activity other than crota
thats the only place 32 is an advantage
but yeah i get what you're saying
TearsOfBlood
Member
I would pay mats to be able to skip them, that's for sure.
gutterboy44
Member
Damn it, I wish I kept my original TDYK's 
But you don't have VoG gear anymore tho
xplicitone
Member
Probably multipurpose including that. Making players play VoG again/relevant and for those that skipped TDW. But will they (L29/L30) have any chance at HoW end game content, that's the question.
Kalamari
Member
Maybe Bungie wanted to reduce the amount of grinding to fully upgrade weapons and armor. I'm fine with the changes.
MagnetoWasRight
Member
Anyone doing hard Crota?
SteveO1683
Member
I always try to depart as soon as I get the mission complete. Nothing is worse than the cut scene after downing the gatelord.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Just got done watching the saved version of the stream. I've got to say I can't wait. Looking like Bungie are listening and making a lot of nice quality of life improvements.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Well, I don't, but I'm just got a helmet and a pair of boots for my titan/hunter respectively. And like I've mentioned in the past, with this change they're keeping old content relevant enough to run. There's a reason to do that now.
Yeah you only unlock perks. They got rid of all the upgrade defence/damage bubbles. But I think you still need planetary mats, weapons parts, and class armor parts.
rasengan1337
Member
yes, we can. i'm going to buy three. i don't care how long that takes me.
xplicitone
Member
Everything is awesome! But on a serious note,
- Not losing progress on upgrades.
- Upgrading VoG gears/weapons and CE. 300 straight to 365 with HoW endgame mat called Etheril or something. + like 1500 glimmer. That endgame mat can be obtained in IB, Nightfall and the 2 HoW endgame stuff
- Upgrading anytime without Xur!
- Making all old mats relevant with exchanges (shards to motes, shards to glimmer, etc)
- Reforging!!!!! Reforge new legendaries at the gunsmith for 1 mote and some glimmer maybe?
- PvP Endgame!
Dynamic Arena, i'll take with a grain of salt until I see it, but awesome!
rasengan1337
Member
well, EJ took what was surely coming my way this week... thanks, bud!
just kidding... but it was still painful to see it
Kadey that audio
If that's what it sounded like the whole time I would have muted my TV or headphones.
Wow nice work
rasengan1337
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Phaethon0017
Member
I'll do it if you do it.
What I missed?
Don't be stealing my lines, bro
PUT THE COOKIE DOWN!
Looks like a lot of fun news Nami
ErnieMcCracken
Member
Looking forward to my 365 Shadow Price!
MagnetoWasRight
Member
Never mind. Hard raid it is.
Auto_aim1
MeisaMcCaffrey
Me too!
rasengan1337
Member
yeah, i feel the same way. like i was telling some friends, i'm gonna play the crap outta HoW!
Get to the choppa, phen0m!Don't be stealing my lines, bro
PUT THE COOKIE DOWN!
Looks like a lot of fun news Nami
Break it to me, was he shown?
What I missed?
How much did you spend at the Grocery Store?
Recap: http://planetdestiny.com/complete-reef-reveal-recap/
No
Wish I kept: (insert tears of woe here)
AF19XLJAEB
COA"{OSICN"ANF or whatever it wasShadow Price
Grim Citizen
Prudence (that one really hurts)
Pretty much any 300 apart from VoG gear I likely sharded
Tears of woe
LollipoPReapeR
Member
Wow, some of these changes seem awesome. And bungie actually seems to have gotten off thier back sides and did some actual designing instead of just reskinning everything...
Actually kinda looking forward to this now. Also, do we not have the 3 damage circles at the end anymore do we? Is it just gonna be straight up one circle we need to fill up after second perk now?
Some things like reforging should have been there since the start tbh... Ah well, at least better late than never
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Wish I kept: (insert tears of woe here)
AF19XLJAEB
Shadow Price
Grim Citizen
Prudence (that one really hurts)
Pretty much any 300 apart from VoG gear I likely sharded
Tears of woe
I still have Doctor Nope
now and forever
Nope
He'll fit nicely with my Good Doctor.
EJRobinson90
Member
Oh man I feel awful, every time I open that chest a Horn pops out...
I have 5 Ghorns
MagnetoWasRight
Member
Does anyone have the hard Crota check?
Dr Nope FTW
I have a Vanquisher
(and For the People, and Suros, and Do Gooder)
I almost always have music blasting, chatting with people offline, or doing other things while I'm playing.
Anyone up for weeklies? Going once.
I need hard Gorgons too if anyone hast it.
MagnetoWasRight
Member
Full now.
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
You guys realize that we can't complain about getting ass mats from nightfall anymore..right?
Also they will remain a possible drop post HoW.
Also they will remain a possible drop post HoW.
I spent $300.
I'm serious.
Why?
I'm planning to finally use the damn grill out in the back that was bought and only used like 3-4 times overall in the last 3 years.
Chef Nami finally gets to use that damn grill!
Plus I might as well buy everything I need for a couple weeks anyway.
This is an apex... and a significant one since we technically haven't seen any of the actual gameplay content coming with this release yet.I'm so excited, I just can't hide it.
It's nice to see missteps reversed in competent ways, and I think it's enjoyable to see so much that obviously came community feedback being explicitly implemented. Admonitions that Bungie simply doesn't care to, or care enough to, do this have of course fallen by the wayside, discarded until the next period of stagnation at which they can be worn proudly again.
Feels pathetic to admit, but these times have problems for me too now. I'm not sure I've ever talked to anyone who can relate to me about this, but having seen the ludicrous extremes an audience will go to, it's hard not to think mostly about how long we get until the next time Bungie is meant instead to be a malevolent force that would frankly prefer you stop playing their game and go step on some kittens. I've seen so much shit flung at this game, warranted and otherwise, that seeing credit given where due doesn't make me want to smile so much as sigh.
I don't really know how to snap out of that. Sorry ocean, I know you didn't ask me to lie down on the couch, lol.
Of course I agree with the general consensus on the reveals today, but here some of my thoughts, with some stuff I really hadn't seen discussed:
- While upgrading all Legendary and Exotic gear to the new power plateau was a huge request and of course I support it, it does in large part put the kibosh on visual transmutation. Because of this change especially with regard to armor, we will see a lot more visual variety in endgame loadouts from here on out, which is great. However, while the legendary items I've hoarded are singing happily, the handful of beautiful, interestingly-named (but functionally useless) rares I've collected will still just be pretty yet useless items in my vault, probably until the day I stop playing. Sorry Stalker BNGL and Argus Deimatic, it just wasn't meant to be.
- A silver lining from my perspective is that this approach is by a huge margin the more casual-friendly, and of course who doesn't want a Gen. 3 Fatebringer. It's also nice to think that if and when I do get a Praetorian Foil, I can actually use it (almost) immediately at endgame. This is potentially also the most elegant solution to the conceptual problem of "I can't believe that vendor gear I just bought is better than the raid gear I spent three months on." It won't be; but it (or any other gear you desire) can be by earning the upgrades to invest.
- Currency exchange matrix is a welcome addition in more ways than the obivous ones. While making your old stockpiles of uselessness useful has major appeal, this affects future acquisitions too. Now, poor Nightfall payouts and materials from chests in VoG actually have an absolute value in terms that are always useful to some degree. So while 9 shards will never feel as good as the Exotic you want, at least you can wind up with something you will use in the end instead of getting the "null reward" feeling.
- I'm very surprised by how many feature additions, especially being able to visit the Reef hub, are actually available to players who don't buy/own the DLC. Ultimately, while this decision will have almost no impact on my experience or that of anyone I play with, it's a very nice gesture and exactly the kind of hush puppy that Bungie must learn to pepper in throughout their postlaunch support. It's also a good reminder of the degree to which, regardless of the face value of each DLC release, Destiny's overall pricing model really isn't like any other game on the market right now.
- The Devil You Know; eternally better than The Devil You Don't.
- Unpopular opinion in response to the most common "concern" I've seen voiced: you don't want Etheric Light to be that common. I know the instinctual reaction is to want it for everything, immediately. But bringing every single item in your inventory and vault to endgame max should be a longer-term goal, not something you do to get out of the way. You should have to think about which item you really want to upgrade next each time you get one as a reward.
Darryl M R
Member
Sounds good, I have the checkpoint if we want to just jump in there.
rasengan1337
Member
I think this is a great way to reward faithful players. We've played this game long enough to have the Exotic collections that we do, and we deserve to have our exotics be top-tier
well, everything but NLB
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
brianjones
Member
i'm with you
there should be some actual playing of the game involved and not just everything day 1
not having to relevel anything is enough of a bonus
Mmmm...
This is a good thing. There'll be core drops in the prison and you can buy your loot rewards on weekly rotating basis after. That's better than relying on RNG to get you boots or the last gun you're missing.
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