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Destiny |OT8| Whine and Cheese
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Lol. The bubble shield may as well be a "kill me" sign. I'll elaborate later, but I think the Titan needs a buff across all gametypes to both classes. Whereas the Hunter could use a PvE buff and a PvP nerf across all classes. Warlocks are fine as is.
MagicWithEarvin
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As someone who has played a Defender in PVP and PVE for almost 200 hours now, yes. They don't need to be buffed or nerfed.
NaturalHigh
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Xbone and what level are you?
Twilight Gap
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perhaps i'll just stay out of class balance discussion. ultimately it comes down to people crying for nerfs of the classes they don't play and anecdotes end up taking the arguments nowhere.
see, i've played gunslinger since the alpha and i could also say that class doesn't need changes. but i'm sure someone will have no problem listing why they think it's cheap or OP. have even heard bladedancers wonder why they're being killed so quickly.
see, i've played gunslinger since the alpha and i could also say that class doesn't need changes. but i'm sure someone will have no problem listing why they think it's cheap or OP. have even heard bladedancers wonder why they're being killed so quickly.
MagicWithEarvin
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Class balances are coming soon, so we'll see what Bungie thinks about what needs to nerfed/buffed. I've seen a lot of people whine about Arc Blade, so I'm sure they'll be looking at that.
PachinkoChampBruh
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Yeah titan defenders are shockingly vulnerable.
Twilight Gap
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are 3 shields not enough?
Gjallarhorn
it's never enough.
NarcissisticJay
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Anyone need a member for hard raid?
Want to start a group? I'm at templar conflux.
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Want to start a group? I'm at templar conflux.
Need to get this going!
This is silly. The defender has zero offensive capabilities. Ive maxed both striker and defender. I play defender in pve and wouldnt even touch it in pvp. They are a weak joke in pvp. When does a team not have a super up currently in pvp? You know what a shield titan means? Avoid and cap other spots or lure him out and kill with fusion rifle/snipe. The bubble shield is a bubble death trap.
xbone, and level 27 hunter.
I was in a match earlier where every time this titan on the other team put his shield up, a titan on our team just smashed right into it.
Yeah. It's utter nonsense.
Twilight Gap
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sounds like someone who activates golden gun in front of 5 enemies and complains that it needs a buff.
shield isn't for sitting inside. it's for blocking areas of the map, negating weapon fire, buffing your team and it basically makes you a 1v1 god. used correctly it borderline breaks the game.
have you ran into a team doing extra damage while blocking most entries to a chokepoint?
underpowered my ass
Striker titans beat defenders. Nova Bomb warlocks beat Defenders. Golden Gunners (especially with 4 shots) and Bladedancers both beat the shield. The only two subclasses that don't perfectly neutralize the shield are other Defenders and Radiance warlocks.
everyday math
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Not a day goes by that someone doesn't complain about a super.
Look at how much nonsense qualification is need in order for the super to be "broken."
Example: ever run into a team of six hunters all using blade dancers on Blind Watch or Gunslinger on Rusted Lands? There is nothing inherent to the super that is broken. Most people don't play with full parties or coordinate to that degree. You'll occasionally see someone pop a bubble on an objective, but the lack of true offensive capabilities don't make up for other shortcomings. The titan melee pops on kills not hits like the warlock. The titan gains no extra damage resistance like a bladedancer or a warlock only a shield which is popped with a few extra shots. Titan grenades are also under powered compared to other classes.
Edit: There is also no true objective play, it's all based on kills, really. So, again. Chances you are just getting rocked by a good team who knows what they are doing. It is absolutely not representative.
ComputerMKII
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I need to get those Void kills in the Crucible first
Jack Scofield
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Got my second Exotic Weapon bounty. I followed that Gaffer's advice of turning in three or more bounties as fast as you can, and it seemed to work for you. Your mileage may vary, but just letting you know that it worked for me.
Twilight Gap
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two defenders put bubble shields over the doors on blind watch. if you walk through these shields, your whole screen turns white. the other team can pass through it and get overshields or extra damage. and i can....waste my super on an empty shield so that i can walk through doorways again.
let's buff it bungie!
i don't believe i missed either of those classes in my first post above.
let's buff it bungie!
i don't believe i missed either of those classes in my first post above.
soon Bungie will just hot-fix them out of existence.
UpDownLeftRight
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I don't think I was supposed to get this shader yet by the looks of it. Anyone else have this?
We need one if you're still available. PS4: SharkJAW
It sounds like you're having a problem with a coordinated team, not the super itself.
Twilight Gap
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it doesn't take a coordinated team to drop a bubble shield in front of a door.
i have a problem with bungie reinventing armor lock.
I've never seen a scenario where two defenders are working together like that. Even if they are, so what? Go somewhere else until their bubble drops.
That's the actual name of it lol
EroticSushi
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Twilight Gap
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and that's the problem.
Subtervotion
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Shit was awesome. Smoothest hard raid I've ever been a part of.
Yeah but as previously said, the bubbles are easy to put down by several supers. So what if you have to waste yours to counter one. That's part of the strategy. One of the problems is people don't realize how easy they are to take down.
ComputerMKII
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The Internet suggests good ideas and DeeJ can't even guarantee that any of it will make it to the final game 
Judging from the frequency and size of their updates, it's like there are only two engineers/programmers at Bungie.
Judging from the frequency and size of their updates, it's like there are only two engineers/programmers at Bungie.
Nice.
Twilight Gap
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perhaps. whatever the case, i think buffing any of the classes would be a tremendous mistake.
apologies for the antagonizing tone though. that game on blind watch was the dumbest thing i've ever experienced in a shooter. felt like they'd learned nothing from their previous game where the exact same thing happened. every class needs tweaks, but if it were left up to me defenders (among other things such as prepatch mythoclast) wouldn't be allowed in PvP. it's important for that split to be made because you can't balance them both using the exact same sandbox when it's this broad.
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