MagicWithEarvin
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Diablo III: Ultimate Evil Edition |OT| Loot has never looked this good before!
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lol
davidbloop
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Well sorry to the people that added me to play, PSN signed me out again 
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HORRORSHØW
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hey add me! i'm soloing t6 right now.
HORRORSHØW
Member
What stats are on the holy SoJ? I have some Crusader pieces up for trade.
edit: Darn you Grimlock
Union Carbine
Member
Nice work!
serversurfer
Member
So, just how important is Magic Find? Early on, I'd hoard +MF gear, thinking it would give me still-better gear, which was basically the true key to success, right? Good drops?
But +MF is becoming harder and hard to find. I'm already down to +64%, and I really wanna use this +25% Arcane necklace I just found, but 18% of the puny(?) MF I have currently comes from my old necklace.
So am I right to favor MF above all else, or was all the +MF gear I found early on just to help me get started? +25% damage to every spell I ever cast would be huge especially since I already have +8% from another piece of gear but would I be stupid for walking around with only 46% MF? I'm used to having 80% or more.
But +MF is becoming harder and hard to find. I'm already down to +64%, and I really wanna use this +25% Arcane necklace I just found, but 18% of the puny(?) MF I have currently comes from my old necklace.
So am I right to favor MF above all else, or was all the +MF gear I found early on just to help me get started? +25% damage to every spell I ever cast would be huge especially since I already have +8% from another piece of gear but would I be stupid for walking around with only 46% MF? I'm used to having 80% or more.
So, just how important is Magic Find? Early on, I'd hoard +MF gear, thinking it would give me still-better gear, which was basically the true key to success, right? Good drops?
But +MF is becoming harder and hard to find. I'm already down to +64%, and I really wanna use this +25% Arcane necklace I just found, but 18% of the puny(?) MF I have currently comes from my old necklace.
So am I right to favor MF above all else, or was all the +MF gear I found early on just to help me get started? +25% damage to every spell I ever cast would be huge especially since I already have +8% from another piece of gear but would I be stupid for walking around with only 46% MF? I'm used to having 80% or more.
Nobody uses MF. It does nothing in RoS.
Begaria
Member
Magic Find is still a thing in the console version? It's been awhile since I've leveled up a low level character, but in the PC version, MF is like non-existent. It's completely replaced by cranking up the difficulty levels and playing with others for higher drop chances of legs/sets.
HORRORSHØW
Member
damnit. can't even add people on psn right now
MF works the same as in the PC version.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
Ah, guess I shouldn't worry too much about my MF being at +10%
I've actually been getting decent loot
First and foremost: For Chrissakes, everyone who hasn't already - please post and find names of coplayers from the Friend Builder Thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=874529 . This should be posted at the top of every page here. I thank everyone who has added me back so far. I just wish I had more time to be available myself.
It's a very obvious bottleneck and has been since Vanilla, and they had all this time to implement it between then and now, and they haven't. Don't hold your breath.
If it's any consolation, the longer you play the game, the less time you'll actually spend in inventory management. Before 70, there's no point to minmaxing, and once you've got some basic T1 gear equipped and are just waiting for green beams to come, you'll know to blindly salvage everything else.
More so now than before, I think the only important thing to do is just keep killing everything as quickly as possible.
I very much doubt that it will ever happen.
It's a very obvious bottleneck and has been since Vanilla, and they had all this time to implement it between then and now, and they haven't. Don't hold your breath.
If it's any consolation, the longer you play the game, the less time you'll actually spend in inventory management. Before 70, there's no point to minmaxing, and once you've got some basic T1 gear equipped and are just waiting for green beams to come, you'll know to blindly salvage everything else.
With every hour played I'm becoming more convinced that MF is basically irrelevant in ROS. It doesn't roll on gear now and doesn't come freely with Paragon. I have some L60 pieces like legacy Sun Keepers and Oculus Rings (which means ~75%+ MF from those two items alone) on all my alts and make a point to have the MF stacked characters open Resplendent Chests besides simply being there, and legendaries don't consistently come more frequently for them than anyone else.
More so now than before, I think the only important thing to do is just keep killing everything as quickly as possible.
Oh, yeah it is.
(Wizard has it now. Rolled vit to 6% damage. Wiz sheet damage is 710+K at present. Good times.)
serversurfer
Member
Really? So ditching our MF gear shouldn't have a noticeable effect on our drops? We're only level 55, if that matters.
We actually have quite a bit of outdated gear we've been clinging to just for the MF.
We actually have quite a bit of outdated gear we've been clinging to just for the MF.
Since when does it do nothing in RoS?
The MF effect you can get from rings or Helm gem is negligible compared to what you already get from Torment levels/partying up. It's a waste of an item stat.
JonnyKtyler
Member
I had this ring on and it got bugged out so it would turn every single white into a rare for one play session, it was amazing and my friends were getting pissed at me since it assigns all the rares to the ring owner lol.
It has a reduced effect for legendary items now, so it's hard to stack and doesn't do much for legendary drops anyway.
Oh, yeah it is.
(Wizard has it now. Rolled vit to 6% damage. Wiz sheet damage is 710+K at present. Good times.)
BRB, changing pants.
/nostalgia
serversurfer
Member
Hmm, so does that mean my GF and I playing on Hard should keep using MF gear? We only get 10% MF for playing together, which I was actually including in the 64% I quoted earlier. So without my necklace, I'm at 46/36, depending on whether she's with me or not.
She invariably is.
So since the only MF we get "naturally" is the 10% from duoing, should we be hanging on to our MF gear?
These are the necklaces I'm looking at. The new one is awesome, but I'm loathe to give up my MF. =/
Since that arcane shard perk is expressed as weapon damage, it should benefit from the +25% on this piece, plus the +8% I get from my bracers, right? I really wanna use the new one, but I don't wanna gimp myself in the process.
Squirts Macintosh
Member
Only 10% of your MF stat effects legendaries, the rest only raises your blue/yellow chance, so any stat boost is negligible.
Since RoS launch.
Yup. We wait until the end of a screen before allowing everyone the chance to check their new level skills or items
SirMossyBloke
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Thanks for not dropping the 4th key, Keywarden. Stupid bug. They'd better fix that soon.
serversurfer
Member
Found this from the RoS FAQ.
14) What happened to magic find?
Magic find was too powerful and became a requirement to find any loot in Diablo 3, which is why it was heavily nerfed: 100% magic find will increase the chance to find blue items by 100%, but only increase the chance for finding rare (yellow) items by 30% and for legendary/set items it is only 10%. That means that if you equip your character with 300% magic find, you will only get a 30% higher chance of finding a legendary. In addition to that, magic find has been removed entirely from paragon and from future rare gear (it still exists on pre-2.0.1 items, the so-called legacy gear). There are items in Reaper of Souls that have magic find as a stat (e.g., Nagelring or Cain's Set), but it is not worth it to sacrifice a lot of damage for a small amount of magic find.
So it sounds like not only was it nerfed, it's slowly being removed from the game. They say 300% MF "only" increases your chance to find a legendary by 30%. What's the base chance? If it's only 1%, going to 31% seems pretty significant, for example. Or does it go from 1% to 1.3%?
14) What happened to magic find?
Magic find was too powerful and became a requirement to find any loot in Diablo 3, which is why it was heavily nerfed: 100% magic find will increase the chance to find blue items by 100%, but only increase the chance for finding rare (yellow) items by 30% and for legendary/set items it is only 10%. That means that if you equip your character with 300% magic find, you will only get a 30% higher chance of finding a legendary. In addition to that, magic find has been removed entirely from paragon and from future rare gear (it still exists on pre-2.0.1 items, the so-called legacy gear). There are items in Reaper of Souls that have magic find as a stat (e.g., Nagelring or Cain's Set), but it is not worth it to sacrifice a lot of damage for a small amount of magic find.
So it sounds like not only was it nerfed, it's slowly being removed from the game. They say 300% MF "only" increases your chance to find a legendary by 30%. What's the base chance? If it's only 1%, going to 31% seems pretty significant, for example. Or does it go from 1% to 1.3%?
super-famicom
Member
I think I'm gonna go for the Plat trophy. Barring Wizard and Crusader (since they're already at 70 on softcore), what's a good class to go through hardcore with?
I don't think they advertise the base rate, but I remember they cited an average of 1 per 2 hours of play time. Meaning play time - not sit there and idle time, and also being a very general guideline.
I think this was pre buff, so it's likely 1 per hour base now since they increased the rate by 100%.
SirMossyBloke
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If I get one more bloody legendary ring I'm gonna kill someone.
Luckily this one was Unity.
Luckily this one was Unity.
If I could get nothing but legendary rings I would. Need 2x Unity and a Holy SoJ.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
Crusader.
Start on Hard then work your way up to Expert mode. That's what I'm doing for the HC Level 70 Trophy.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Anyone on XB1 wanna give me some gold or emeralds? I'm trying to buff up my monk and DH, and figured I may as well ask, lol.
SirMossyBloke
Member
I think I've managed to pick up every legendary ring available for the game now. I've started getting doubles. I need legendary belts, helms, legs and chest. They ain't dropping.
You and I both, man. I get so excited when I see a legendary ring, but then inevitably depressed when it's a Manald Heal or Nagelring. Ugh...
serversurfer
Member
Cool. Thanks.
I actually applaud this change, since MF was basically a wasted slot on the gear, because the other gear only seemed extra powerful until you realized they forgot the MF. lol
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Should I be dual wielding on my Demon Hunter, or should I stick with quivers?
The Antitype
Banned
As a lowly level 30-something, seeing all these screens of insane armor sets is giving me fits. Can't wait to power through the rest of this first campaign run and start getting to the meat of the game.
When do you start getting this stuff? Is it all Nightmare difficulty and Hardcore mode, adventure mode bounties?
Thanks!
When do you start getting this stuff? Is it all Nightmare difficulty and Hardcore mode, adventure mode bounties?
Thanks!
KINGofCRA5H
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super-famicom
Member
Um, I already have a Crusader at 70, so I don't want to level one up again...
Nyteshade517
Member
This is my Demon Hunter right now...
CouchMaster
Member
So close 500k even though I have no idea how most of the stats works.
Its mostly been trial and error.
Its mostly been trial and error.
I would advise against Demon Hunter. They're fun to play but just too many ways to get trapped in a corridor and die regardless of difficulty level. You really rely on movement to survive unless you got really lucky with gear.
Barbarian was my first character on vanilla, and I think still the character I enjoyed playing the most even if I didn't progress far into inferno with him.
davidbloop
Member
Ok so here's my DH, think I'm ready for the Torment levels? I aint the toughest that's for sure
Union Carbine
Member
I may trot out a barbarian when I want to take a break from my monk. I haven't run across many at all in the time I've put in teaming with randoms online.