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Dirt 3 |OT| "If in doubt, flat out"

Shaneus

Member
jlevel13 said:
I know what you're saying, but for me those annoying aspects have really taken over my feelings about the game... and left a very negative feeling. It's not just the insanely short rally stages (longer to load menus and load the race than to actually race sometimes), the gymkhana and to a lesser extent the trucks and buggies, which make the game feel like it lacks focus. It's the presentation that really gets on my nerves. Time after time repeating that I should upload a replay to youtube - worse than a commercial. The condescending pep-talks and congratulations that was awesome etc... I just can't overlook it - the more time put into the game, the more annoying it becomes. Actually, I think I'm done :(
In many ways, this is why in some instances I prefer Sega Rally (Revo). Minimal presentation, straight into the action, necessary voiceovers only.

I'm still going to put time in it and eventually finish it, but it's nowhere near as fun or engrossing as Dirt 2 was, imo.
 

jlevel13

Member
Square Triangle said:
Well "technically" this isn't a rally game. So the addition of the buggies and trucks does not bother me.

The inclusion of trucks and buggies doesn't bother me exactly, it's more that those sections of the game (this time around?) feel more boring and too easy. On those races, even though I was playing on the hardest difficulty, no mini-map etc, I seemed to have no trouble coming in first, even if I was racing on a track that was completely new to me. That really shouldn't be happening! The rally stages did present a nice (brief) challenge, but it felt weird to go through sections of the game that really put me to a nice test and that I had to work at, to vast sections that seemed completely easy and challenge free. The balance didn't seem right and made the game feel even more disjointed...
 

Oneself

Member
Indeed, the whole "more rally" PR was BS. It feels to me like there are less rally parts in Dirt3 since they mostly last for under 2 minutes (and they manage to put the same freaking races all the time, the exact same circuits over and over). Also, in Dirt2, buggies & trucks were still "offroad races" / segments, and breaking those yellow barriers was some kind of time trial... so it was still and only about racing. Now the whole Gymkhana stuff is EVERYWHERE and has nothing to do with racing except the fact that there is a car and a surface under it.

I'm completing the last championship section now and after I finish the trailblazer & rally specials (little triangles under the main championships), it will be traded ..
 

darkwing

Member
LeadGandalf said:
Game was patched for me earlier today and now it keeps crashing :/

welcome to the club, its making me shelve the game for now, crash in the last race of a 5 race contest? forget about it!
 

eso76

Member
is there a list of the tracks in the ost anywhere ?

i just did a few races and heard a good amount of stuff i could use for some videoclips i'm doing

edit: nevermind, took a 3 seconds google search


Since i'm here i might spend a few words to say the game looks amazing, Kenya is gorgeous. Although Dirt 2 seemed to offer a much greater variety in scenery and settings tbh. 5/6 y/o consoles can still impress.

Oh, and it sounds amazing too, which i wasn't expecting.
 

The_Dude

Member
I'm loving the game for the most part, even the gymkhana, but what the hell is with the difficulty? I'm playing on advanced, doing the first event of season 3, land rush in buggies. First race, I spend 30 minutes trying to get first place and can't even catch up to first place, let alone pass him. Try all different setups, no luck. Only ended up winning because the car in first place crashed near the end of the last lap. Next race, nearly the same track in the rain, win easily on my first try. WTF?
 

XeroSauce

Member
So I had this stuttering problem, where my game with skip 5 frames when it needed to load something. I tried various ways to fix it, and I found that it happens much less in driver view, but I normally play third-person as far away as possible.

So I tried first-person after years...and it was fucking amazing. I had so much more fun with the game and the weather effects actually made a difference instead of just being pretty.

Two birds with one stone. :)
 
The_Dude said:
I'm loving the game for the most part, even the gymkhana, but what the hell is with the difficulty? I'm playing on advanced, doing the first event of season 3, land rush in buggies. First race, I spend 30 minutes trying to get first place and can't even catch up to first place, let alone pass him. Try all different setups, no luck. Only ended up winning because the car in first place crashed near the end of the last lap. Next race, nearly the same track in the rain, win easily on my first try. WTF?

I noticed this earlier. I restarted the same rally race a few times and the AI posted really random times, one of which was really low and I beat it easily while it was much closer before. I guess it's to simulate the human element of racing, but it has thrown me for a loop a few times so far.
 

Label

The Amiga Brotherhood
Had this been posted?

http://www.shoptonews.net/2011/06/0...ty/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

"Codemasters has today released the DiRT 3 Charity Pack on Xbox Live Marketplace and Games For Windows Marketplace for 160MSP.

The Colin McRae Vision Charity Pack features a Ford Escort Mk II plus five liveries. The pack marks the first in a series of weekly downloadable content that will become available for DiRT 3, featuring new cars and tracks.

All profits from the sale of this download content pack are being donated to the Colin McRae Vision Charity."

Weekly DLC hmm? I am hoping we see quite a few new tracks down the line then.. :)
 

markao

Member
Good friend over this weekend for CL final and Monaco weekend and gave me the chance to play some Dirt 3 (6/8 hours).


- Game looks really good and some of the sound are absolutely fantastic. No other game comes close to some of the turbo/exhaust sounds this game produces, amazing!
- FFB/physics, not a huge fan. It took me some time and some help from others to get a decent feel on my G25 and steering seems gathered to very low degrees of input (200/300 degrees). the additional weight to the cars is nice though.
- Rallying was disappointment, to short, repetitive (re use parts same track/reverse) and to wide, add the extra amount of grip and it takes away what makes rallying for me interesting.
- Not a fan of the 8 lap races on tarmac, buggies are more fun and the head to head races were an addition I liked
- Trailblazer still silly difficulty spike, as you cannot drive competitively on just the minimap against AI's that drive faultless. So you are either stuck on lowering difficulty for the events or repeating the event until you know each corner.
- Menu's better, minus the Dirt 2 "tour map", was missing a one button solution to go to the main menu.
- Gymkhana fun, although I can see why it would not be the same for all, so integrating it in to the Dirt tour was not that smart.



Overall definitely not a bad game, but still wish Codemasters would stop trying catering towards an American console crowd that is not really in to racing games and creates one old fashioned Colin McRae rally game, Europe will by it ;)




Talking about Gymkhana, here are my two platinum efforts on the Monaco event, I had fun!!

Gymkhana Monaco part-1 and Gymkhana Monaco part-2


.
 

DenogginizerOS

BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
I am an American and I want a good ol' fashioned rally game. I also love Formula 1, soccer, and American football. And I hate NASCAR.

As for Dirt 3, the patch increased my FPS significantly. No crashes last night but I was not using my DFGT wheel.
 

Label

The Amiga Brotherhood
DenogginizerOS said:
As for Dirt 3, the patch increased my FPS significantly. No crashes last night but I was not using my DFGT wheel.

You know.. everytime I crash I have been using my DFGT wheel, but then again I reverted to DX9 (Which looks horrible in comparison..) for 2~ hours without a crash last night using my wheel.

I might try DX11 again tonight as I have the patch and see if I keep crashing. (Oh apparently it does not fix it.. :( )
 

darkwing

Member
Label said:
You know.. everytime I crash I have been using my DFGT wheel, but then again I reverted to DX9 (Which looks horrible in comparison..) for 2~ hours without a crash last night using my wheel.

I might try DX11 again tonight as I have the patch and see if I keep crashing.

the new patch still crashes my DX11, had to do DX9

using a DFGT also
 

-Amon-

Member
Keyser Soze said:
Saw this in inbox


^^
Clickable

Never bothered with seat/wheels, but that looks good (still not interested though)


Terrible positioning for the gearbox, really terrible
 

mclaren777

Member
-Amon- said:
Terrible positioning for the gearbox, really terrible
It makes sense for a modern rally car because they use sequential transmissions.


-Amon- said:
And the angle for the pedals is wrong too.
It actually feels a lot better than you're probably thinking. I love my PlaySeat.
 

legbone

Member
i went ahead and bought the charity pack. figured it was for a good cause and pretty cheap. thing is, i go into my garage and the new escort mk II shows up just fine in the 70's rally cars but in open rally it says i have to download it from the marketplace. it gives you an option to purchase it right there so i hit "buy" and redownloaded it thinking that would fix it. nope. also i cannot seem to use the mcrae racing livery with it either (only two liveries for it unlocked at this time). anyone else pick it up and having these issues (or am i just stupid and they aren't issues?). i have it for 360 btw.
 

darkwing

Member
DenogginizerOS said:
Do you have an x360 controller? If so, see if using it with DX11 causes crashes.

well i have PS3 controller, using MotionJoy to emulate an x360, worked fine for a race, but it still crashes, looks like the DX11 thingy, funny thing is i can play on other games like Metro2033 with DX11 perfectly fine
 
markao said:
Good friend over this weekend for CL final and Monaco weekend and gave me the chance to play some Dirt 3 (6/8 hours).


- Game looks really good and some of the sound are absolutely fantastic. No other game comes close to some of the turbo/exhaust sounds this game produces, amazing!
- FFB/physics, not a huge fan. It took me some time and some help from others to get a decent feel on my G25 and steering seems gathered to very low degrees of input (200/300 degrees). the additional weight to the cars is nice though.
- Rallying was disappointment, to short, repetitive (re use parts same track/reverse) and to wide, add the extra amount of grip and it takes away what makes rallying for me interesting.
- Not a fan of the 8 lap races on tarmac, buggies are more fun and the head to head races were an addition I liked
- Trailblazer still silly difficulty spike, as you cannot drive competitively on just the minimap against AI's that drive faultless. So you are either stuck on lowering difficulty for the events or repeating the event until you know each corner.
- Menu's better, minus the Dirt 2 "tour map", was missing a one button solution to go to the main menu.
- Gymkhana fun, although I can see why it would not be the same for all, so integrating it in to the Dirt tour was not that smart.



Overall definitely not a bad game, but still wish Codemasters would stop trying catering towards an American console crowd that is not really in to racing games and creates one old fashioned Colin McRae rally game, Europe will by it ;)




Talking about Gymkhana, here are my two platinum efforts on the Monaco event, I had fun!!

Gymkhana Monaco part-1 and Gymkhana Monaco part-2


.

Great impressions, I agree with all of them.

I too would love to see a true new colin Mc Rae game with super narrow, long , high speed rally stages.

We'll never get one though, we can probably already count our blessings for the fact that we are getting an extremely casual broad audience game made by a team that happens to be fairly talented. (waste of talent imo but take what you can get).

To clarify : casual =/= arcade.
 

mclaren777

Member
DiRT 3 – PC Patch

•Time of day and weather options are now correctly saved within Jam Session save/restore slots.
• Fixed an occasional loading screen hang which could leave the player with a black screen.
• Fixed a soft lock when removing the Ethernet cable on some screens during a LAN session.
• Battersea Compound – Parking Lot environment updated to ensure that smash blocks are always present.
• Resolved specific instances of the player being able to drive into areas of crowd.
• Corrected a rare issue with online staggered start team events which could lead to incorrect team scoring.
• Fixed a very rare physics issue which could lead to the player's vehicle falling through the world.
• Fixed two graphics issues which could lead to a crash when changing resolution or resizing the windowed game to a height of 0 pixels.
• Resolved an issue preventing Player 2 from re-binding their controls if using a keyboard within a split-screen event.
• Fixed an issue which, in specific circumstances, could lead to a spectator seeing incorrect progress during a multiplayer Transporter event.
• Minor corrections to track boundary and reset lines.
• Fixed an issue which will occasionally cause the green 'infected' effect to be applied to the player's car during loading between Outbreak events.
• 'World Record' and 'Personal Best' symbols now correctly appear within all circuit-based time trial events.
• Correction to particle behaviour during high speed collisions, avoiding any instances of them spawning in the wrong direction.
• Minor finish line adjustments to avoid the possibility of bypassing them in some routes.
• Fixed an issue which lead to the driver's hands clipping when in the interior camera 'brace' position.
• Resolved an issue which would occasionally prevent the 'World Tour' tetras from spinning within the front end.
• Resolved an issue which could lead to some vehicle cards flickering within the front end vehicle select screens.
• Adjusted a small number of text references and menu options for the 'VIP Pack', which should be referred to as the 'Free Car Pack' for PC.
• Various stability fixes.
 

sneaky77

Member
is it me or is the difficulty highly uneven?

omg the loading in this game.. ahhhhh

After playing quite a bit of this game I have to say I am disappointed.

In the rally events is the best handling so far, the rest of the time the handling is very floaty.

The inclusion of gymkhana in the career I really do not like.

Overall is my least favorite of the series so far.
 
My first Dirt game ever. Picked up because I really wanted a racing game. This game is pretty awesome. I really love it! Most fun I've had with a racing game since GT3. The youtube uploading is a huge plus. Just wish the record time was a little bit longer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN1LN_hNDhY
Just, uh, disregard the Lady GaGa Avatar.
 

Daigoro

Member
Label said:
Had this been posted?

http://www.shoptonews.net/2011/06/0...ty/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

"Codemasters has today released the DiRT 3 Charity Pack on Xbox Live Marketplace and Games For Windows Marketplace for 160MSP.

The Colin McRae Vision Charity Pack features a Ford Escort Mk II plus five liveries. The pack marks the first in a series of weekly downloadable content that will become available for DiRT 3, featuring new cars and tracks.

All profits from the sale of this download content pack are being donated to the Colin McRae Vision Charity."

Weekly DLC hmm? I am hoping we see quite a few new tracks down the line then.. :)

weekly DLC, the hell?
 

cackhyena

Member
Okay, can someone help me out? Did you guys tweak the cars much for the first two races in the Tour mode? I kinda refuse to go further till I nail 1st place and it's killing me that I can't get above 3rd. Maybe I just suck, but i reeeeaaallly want those 1st place points.
 

xir

Likely to be eaten by a grue
cat 'n' mouse is really a lot of fun if you don't care too much if you lose or can deal with the frustration of grieffing being part of the gameplay.
 

legbone

Member
cackhyena said:
Okay, can someone help me out? Did you guys tweak the cars much for the first two races in the Tour mode? I kinda refuse to go further till I nail 1st place and it's killing me that I can't get above 3rd. Maybe I just suck, but i reeeeaaallly want those 1st place points.


no i didn't tweak anything. what difficulty level are you playing on? I think mine was 4 or 5. i had trouble with 5 if i remember but not much on 4. also what platform are you on (in case it matters).
 

cackhyena

Member
I had it on 4 but bumped it down to 3 and still can't get above 3rd. I guess I just suck something fierce. 360 version, btw. It's been a looooong time since I've played a racing game, so i am super rusty. I was really surprised by how twitchy it felt turning the car. I am determined to play the game in cockpit view all the way. It's too glorious.
 

legbone

Member
yeah, i found myself being overly cautious at first. remember that you can take curves faster than you think. or at least that is what i found when i really started pushing myself to compete. just give it time man, keep practicing and you will be winning soon. wish i could take that advice when it comes to gymkhana. i am about 15 minutes away from turning on the tricksteer and cheating (at least it feels like cheating).
 

sneaky77

Member
legbone said:
yeah, i found myself being overly cautious at first. remember that you can take curves faster than you think. or at least that is what i found when i really started pushing myself to compete. just give it time man, keep practicing and you will be winning soon. wish i could take that advice when it comes to gymkhana. i am about 15 minutes away from turning on the tricksteer and cheating (at least it feels like cheating).

I lower the difficulty on the gymkhana stuff and still takes me a few tries to finish first on the exhibition events
 
Has anyone had any steering wheel issues?

I have a Logitech Driving Force EX and it doesn't recognise it at all. The official Codemasters forum states it is compatible and some people have had varying results with the same wheel.

Thanks
 

ruxtpin

Banned
How often do ya'll find yourself using the handbrake in rally/rally-cross events? It's been a while since I played a dirt racer, so I'm still using the same approach that I've taken with other racing games (brake early, turn in, fast out). Does this apply to rally events or should I be using my handbrake more, instead of the regular brake?
 
ruxtpin said:
How often do ya'll find yourself using the handbrake in rally/rally-cross events? It's been a while since I played a dirt racer, so I'm still using the same approach that I've taken with other racing games (brake early, turn in, fast out). Does this apply to rally events or should I be using my handbrake more, instead of the regular brake?
I use the handbrake semi-regularly. For rally I tend to downshift and that is generally enough to get around a corner either extremely fast - or kick the ass of the car out enough to get a drift started. That said, hairpins I will handbrake if I enter too fast or am taking the corner too wide. It's better to slow yourself and turn alot tighter via handbrake than it is to take a hairpin too wildly - the cars accelerate so fast that momentum is rarely an issue.

For rally cross it's purely down to the car and track. Some cars I handbrake nearly every corner on tight tracks - as you want to hold the inside line as much as possible so that you can straighten up earlier and put the power down. However on larger/wider tracks like Monaco, a well timed down shift or a dab of regular brakes is more than enough to breeze through every corner - depending on car.

Admittedly I'm not brilliant at the game - but I tend to win most of my online races and have platinumed/won every event on advanced difficult/assists - and the only corners I handbrake for 100% of the time are the Kenya Tarmac hairpins near the start/end of the track; everything else is purely an on the fly decision on whether I overshot a corner or need to be a bit tighter. Ultimately - the handbrake is rarely (if ever) ideal, but it's there for a reason so get comfortable with it and then decide what works for you.
 

isamu

OMFG HOLY MOTHER OF MARY IN HEAVEN I CANT BELIEVE IT WTF WHERE ARE MY SEDATIVES AAAAHHH
how much rallycross is in this one compared to D2? more? less?
 

Sethos

Banned
Guys, quick opinion.

For a montage, does this look stupid, the split-screen? You do miss out on a bit seeing it only from the outside in gymkhana and the inside view does show a whole lot more but is quite boring to watch for a longer run. So is this worth watching or would an occasional dashboard view be preferred?

( Admittedly I didn't spend much time doing a perfect split or synchronising )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhjfhfIcIzU
 
Finally got to play online last night! (PS3). Hardcore mode is a lot of fun. I like knowing that everyone is playing the game the same way with no assists and in the cockpit view. Some proper racing. Managed 7 races, 7 podiums and 5 wins. Good fun. Love Trail Blazer. So awesome in hardcore mode.

Gutterboy44 if anyone wants to hit me up on PSN for races.
 

mclaren777

Member
I'm curious about how long it takes to render and upload videos to Youtube so could somebody please fill in the details?

Platform:
Render time:
Upload time:
 

zlatko

Banned
Decided to just rent the game later today on my 360. I'm itching to play it, but if I buy it's for the PC version. Unfortunately, I'm still broke as a joke, so I figured I can see if D3 is worth saving up for after the rental or not. ;)
 

cackhyena

Member
You really have to give it a little time, at least in my case. The first five races or so were a real grind to get comfy with the controls. Are the first couple vehicles you have to race with in the first rally races rear wheel drive? I noticed how easy it was in Kenya rally races to get first in comparison because ( at least I think because ) I was using a FWD car.
 

Everdred

Member
I've got 28 hours into this game (5 or 6 online) and I finally beat the top 4 triangles. (All gold) This game is getting ridiculously long. Doing 6-8 laps on 4 different races is a little much in my opinion. Plus, my game keeps freezing after the patch. Didn't have any freezes and now its like every hour, seems to happen when i'm on the final race of circuit too. Bastards.
Diablohead said:
My first batch of edited cameras has been made, takes ages but I like the results.

http://youtu.be/ZLxZrFXoWN4
Keep up the good work, love this!
 
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