Do You Think Halo 2 Will Sell Loads of Xboxes?
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CrimsonSkies
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"Halo 2 estimations are crazy. 4 million? noway.
2 million max imo"
2 million by Christmas minimum.
2 million max imo"
2 million by Christmas minimum.
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Vennt
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I seem to recall your sales projections generally sucking in the past Wulfer, Do you remember "GT3 won't sell, no-ones interested"? at all 
Freeburn.
Freeburn.
SolidSnakex
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WULFER said:
I couldn't agree more.
Baron Aloha
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DarienA said:
I can't think of any that were as similar to Halo as True Crime and Driv3r are to GTA. One thing about Sci-Fi games is that they each reside in their own unique universes so that tends to differentiate them from each other a great deal. GTA, True Crime, and Driv3r are all attempting to mirror the same universe; the 'real' world.
DarienA said:
Not at all. But it stands to reason that the brunt of the MGS and GT series' growth is behind them. They've been around since '97/'98. The growth rate for most series tends to peak at around the 2nd or 3rd installment. There's no doubt that they will continue to grow and attract more users but because Halo is a popular franchise that is still in its infancy. Its growth rate hasn't peaked yet, IMO. Therefore it has the potential to attract more new users (i.e. people who are new to the series) than MGS and GT.
DarienA said:
See my comments above. When I said that they peaked, I was talking about their rate of growth. Madden is a bit of a strange beast because it's THE preimminant multiplatform title in the US. It's sales growth slows and a lower rate because it is pulling numbers from all 3 platforms.
Did True Crime see even CLOSE to GT's sales numbers? No. Next.
The problem I have with your dissection of sales growth JC is that Madden showed huge sales growth numbers on the PS2 alone.
Even if the GT series sales had peaked the whole world has not seen a GT sequel since what 2001? While I agree that the Halo userbase is probably growing a faster rate than the GT userbase currently, I'd also hazard a guess that the GT userbase is so much larger that Halo still has a way to go before it catches up but I'm entirely too lazy to search and drum out sales #'s so take it for what it's worth.
Wulfer
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Nice shot burn keep thinkin Halo 2 won't sale and you'll be the one were burning. Instead of attacking each other why don't we wait and see what happens. Then again it wouldn't be a GAF if we did now would it?I seem to recall your sales projections generally sucking in the past Wulfer, Do you remember "GT3 won't sell, no-ones interested"? at all
SolidSnakex
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WULFER said:
He didn't even say HALO2 wouldn't sell, he just said that your predictions aren't exactly right all the time. And if you did say GT3 wasn't going to sell he's got a good point.
Baron Aloha
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You're one to talk.DopeyFish said:
SolidSnakex
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DarienA said:
With all the games to bet against at the time, he bets against GT3.
"If xbox has indeed equalled ps2 with monday when NPD comes out, and is SUMMER,"
You know in alot of ways the Xbox should have higher numbers than the PS2 when the numbers come out next week. It had 2 big exclusives, the PS2 had none. So yah the Xbox should outsell it. But what does it say if the Xbox can't even outsell it then? How's a sequel to 1 of the biggest games this gen being released going to stack up to sequels to 4 of the biggest games released this gen?
BeOnEdge said:
What is it they need to be worried about?
Are you saying Theory:
Summer is the slowest part of the year... MS equals Sony sales. So that means Fall biggest sales time MS has one* big release, Sony has 3. MS will still equal Sony sales?
*Yes you can correct me if there are other big "mainstream" fall releases
Baron Aloha
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DarienA said:
What does comparing GT and TC's sales have to do with how similar Halo is to the other Sci-Fi games on the market? Way to derail.
DarienA said:
Again, Madden's sales are pretty much dependant on the number of consoles sold. A certain percentage of console owners are always going to buy Madden therefore Madden's sales spiked because PS2's sales spiked, not the other way around. Very few people choose one particular console over another based on multi-platform games. It's the exclusives that ultimately drive the sales of a platform.
DarienA said:
Fair enough. GT3 sold by the bucket load. That's partially because it's a popular series and partially because it was one of the first great games on the PS2. There is a lot more competition on the platform now so I wouldn't be surprised to see GT3's sales exclipse those of GT4.
siamesedreamer
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Halo 2 will do at least 3 million through December in the US.
Also, just going by last year's NFSU numbers, part 2 has the *potential* to seriously canabalize GT4 sales. MGS3 and GTA will do real well though.
Also, just going by last year's NFSU numbers, part 2 has the *potential* to seriously canabalize GT4 sales. MGS3 and GTA will do real well though.
Hellraizah
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Halo 2 will only be the tip of the iceberg. I am the one who will be selling Xbox this holiday season. Hell, my store already have a ratio of something like 10 Xbox for every PS2 sold. We are like the exact opposite of the japanese market. Not that I'm not there for anything....
Derail? YOU are the one that tried to say that because GTA has seen knock off's this year that the interest in the series has probably decreased. My response is how can that be when the knock-off's sold so poorly compared to it?JC10001 said:
I don't get this one....the problem with the above statement is that the PS2 generally hasn't had sales spikes... and nothing on tap with the jump of Madden sales. The PS2 has generally consistently sold well, but continues to see an expected sales drops. PS2 sales spikes that do exist have generally come around price drops, and around the holiday season. Madden was not released around price drops and is released before the holiday sales season.
Actually that's just it...there isn't alot more competition on the PS2. There are a shitload of arcade racers... and yeah you get stuff like Codemasters titles... but there is nothing like GT on the PS2.
I'm archiving the shit out of this thread.
Yes, Halo2 will sell xboxen. It won't be a huge run/shortages/long lines, but there'll be a big spike. Playing Halo online will become 'cool', just like having a DVD of Scarface playing in every room of your mansion is 'cool'.
Mindshare.
Yes, Halo2 will sell xboxen. It won't be a huge run/shortages/long lines, but there'll be a big spike. Playing Halo online will become 'cool', just like having a DVD of Scarface playing in every room of your mansion is 'cool'.
Mindshare.
Baron Aloha
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DarienA said:
The knock-offs, because they are pretty similar, do tend to take away from the freshness of GTA (not as much as this being the 3rd GTA game this gen will, mind you), but they certainly don't help GTA by being around. True Crime sold over 500,000 across all 3 platforms IIRC. Those aren't GTA:VC numbers but they aren't too shabby either. Driv3r, despite being a shitty game, has sold really well too apparently. If GTA:SA manages to eclipse GTA:VC's sales I will be the first to admit that I was wrong. I have no problem doing that. I just don't see it happening.
DarienA said:
The PS2 did have a bit of a sales spike (I'd say around circa Dec2001-Dec2002). But I suppose that since it lasted so long that it could be considered more of a trend then a spike persay like you said. But just because Madden comes out at a different time than a price drop or the holiday doesn't mean that it's sales aren't helped by those things happening. Madden's Xmas sales are always really good.
DarienA said:
More good games = more competition. Two games don't have to be in the same genre to compete with each other. Both of them are fighting for people's hard earned dollars.
Dr.Guru of Peru
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I dont know, but Im leaning towards "yes".
shut upSaturnman said:Definitely more than Metroid Prime 1 and 2 combined. By a long shot.
Baron Aloha
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DarienA said:
Fair enough, we shall see what happens. I have no doubt that it will sell very well. I just don't think it will sell "GT3" well.
SolidSnakex
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JC10001 said:
You mean GT1, GT2 and GT3 well. The series is amazingly consistant.
siamesedreamer
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I've seen a couple people mention M$'s advertising blitz for Halo2. Well, it looks like it may have already begun. Someone on the IGN forums is claiming that "I, Robot" has a Halo 2 commercial in the previews. Not the most reliable of sources, but we'll see soon enough.
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
Halo 2 will not do what GTA:VC did. GTA3 sold about 7 million copies and its sequel sold about 2 million moremore. Halo sold about 3 million (correct me if I'm wrong), so the sequel will sell about 5 million. It6 wont make the same impact as VC did, Im pretty sure about that. MS don't have Sony's marketing skills
You guys need to stop it if you really think Halo 2 will NOT outsell the first. Not only will there be more Xboxes by the time Halo 2 comes out, but i personally know of at least 5 people who are buying, and subscribing to Live solely for Halo 2. Seriously, even Vons grocery stores will be selling the game.
I know some of you may be Nintendo/Sony fans, but the level of denial displayed in this thread is quite disturbing.
I know some of you may be Nintendo/Sony fans, but the level of denial displayed in this thread is quite disturbing.
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
Just to add a little more heat to this thread. Zelda GC will sell more consoles than halo 2 and more copies than halo 2.
DJ Demon J
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Lil' Dice said:
Vons/Safeway? Even I am doubtful of that. It would be cool to see though.
Lil' Dice said:
The denial isn't just in this thread, unfortunately. *looks down at locked thread*
The extent of Halo's popularity still hasn't seen limit. It continues to sell hardware. Its demographics show broadening with strong uptake among females and with published books, fan videos, and fanfics. Halo has become one of the biggest associations with contemporary videogaming.
And yet most casual gamers are still on the fence about the Xbox. This leaves the system's userbase room to really grow when they start getting pulled in by the launch of Halo 2. The Xbox is at the brink of becoming a mainstream option comparable to the PS2 in the US, and Halo 2 is the truly mass market product that can launch it there. The PS2 already holds this position, so big sequels that come out for it only reaffirm this status without really upgrading it much.
And yet most casual gamers are still on the fence about the Xbox. This leaves the system's userbase room to really grow when they start getting pulled in by the launch of Halo 2. The Xbox is at the brink of becoming a mainstream option comparable to the PS2 in the US, and Halo 2 is the truly mass market product that can launch it there. The PS2 already holds this position, so big sequels that come out for it only reaffirm this status without really upgrading it much.
SolidSnakex
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Lil' Dice said:
It's going to be a huge success, no doubt about that. But E3 isn't a place you want to base that on.
SolidSnakex
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Lil' Dice said:
If you went by E3 buzz, State of Emergency should've owned GTA3. Another would be that the DC should've been a bigger success than the PS2 if you went by buzz from there.
SolidSnakex said:
Well i guess that means the DS, PSP and the new Zelda will have disappointing debuts.
I'm not talking about the artificial media buzz, i referring to being in the MS booth, and hearing the words Halo and 2 being murmured by people hoping to catch a glimpse of the game. People who got a chance to play Halo 2 behind closed doors emerged as if they'd just returned from Mecca(Teddman), and their impressions became the most sought after gaming media for weeks after E3.
seismologist
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I'm still trying to figure out why I'm not even excited about Halo 2. Or Metroid Prime 2.
I think console FPS sequels dont excite me it's not like on the PC where each iteration gets a massive boost in graphics.
I think this will have an effect on Halo 2's impact. Like how some people are already comparing it to Vice City in terms of sequels.
I'll definitely be checking out Killzone though
I think console FPS sequels dont excite me it's not like on the PC where each iteration gets a massive boost in graphics.
I think this will have an effect on Halo 2's impact. Like how some people are already comparing it to Vice City in terms of sequels.
I'll definitely be checking out Killzone though
DarienA said:
HALO 2 IMO is bigger than any of sonys big releases,. you dont see vice city selling 10,000 copies a month still....or do you?
GT4....nfs2u and bo3 will cannibalize its sales. whats the 3rd one? madden? are we forgetting your favorite company has shacked up with MS? madden on LIVE could work wonders possibly.DJ Demon J
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BeOnEdge said:HALO 2 IMO is bigger than any of sonys big releases,. you dont see vice city selling 10,000 copies a month still....or do you?
I love Halo, I love Xbox and I think Halo 2 will sell ridiculous amounts....but not as much as San Andreas. Not even close.
SolidSnakex
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BeOnEdge said:HALO 2 IMO is bigger than any of sonys big releases,. you dont see vice city selling 10,000 copies a month still....or do you?
You know why Vice City isn't selling 10k units a month anymore? Because it's sold 6 million units in the US alone. HALO hasn't even sold that amount worldwide. Then again I guess it make sense to underestimate GTA's sales. I mean with just GTA3 and VC it's only sold a weak 12+million units in the US. Makes you wonder just how much a series has to sell before people realise that it's not some kind of fluke or "fad". But considering this is still going on with Pokemon, I guess there is no real amount to stop that talk.
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