Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
TheGreatMightyPoo said:
Rocket barrel is epic.
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Donkey Kong Country Returns |OT| Retro Studios Has Done It Again!
- Thread starter Tricky I Shadow
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Rocket barrel is epic.
I like the mine cart and rocket barrel levels, but I feel like maybe they overdid them. In the original games they were kinda rare so it was like a special occasion to get one. But here, it seems like there's one in every world. Then you have the Cave world, which is made up entirely of mine cart and rocket levels.
Still, they're fun, so I guess if "There are too many fun levels" is one of the biggest complaints I can come up with for this game, Retro's done a pretty good job.
Still, they're fun, so I guess if "There are too many fun levels" is one of the biggest complaints I can come up with for this game, Retro's done a pretty good job.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
KevinCow said:
Yeah, Retro must have been big fans of the mine cart levels or so all the possible gameplay element possibilities.
I agree with you but like you, doesn't bother me too much because the mine carts have always been a unique element to the series that other platformers don't have, one of the games' trademarks.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
ismaboof said:
Don't boot it up, it's one of those games that even when you take a break from it, you are constantly thinking of playing it.
2 Minutes Turkish
Banned
Dan said:
At least you don' t have to wait until the 2nd of December like the pieces of shit Nintendo treats us like in Australia.
Only onto the 4th stage of World 1, but the game seems amazing thus far. I've been collecting 'everything' before moving onto the next level.. save for the time trailer golds, since they seem impossible at this point for me. :lol
The presentation of the title is incredibly high, as to be expected. The controls, especially the 'blowing air' which occasionally registers as a 'forward roll', are a bit finicky and not as tight as NSMB Wii, but they're manageable.
Looking forward to the rest of the game which I'll start plowing through right now!
The presentation of the title is incredibly high, as to be expected. The controls, especially the 'blowing air' which occasionally registers as a 'forward roll', are a bit finicky and not as tight as NSMB Wii, but they're manageable.
Looking forward to the rest of the game which I'll start plowing through right now!
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
To me the minecart stuff feels a bit like when Retro got ahold of the morphball concept in Metroid. They sorta went crazy with it and used it a lot more than it was used in the classic games.
Just played stage 2-2. Incredible game so far, I'm loving the level design. Playing through with Wii-Remote + Nunchuck: it works very well, and I don't mind the waggle, because even if at first I thought they were overusing it, I got used to it and it feels very natural now, 1h30min after starting the game. And wow, some of the collectibles are very well hidden!
Also, I'm even liking the music! Excellent job, Retro.
Also, I'm even liking the music! Excellent job, Retro.
Got the game! and yup, its fuckin amazing.
But man, i get fuckin HUGE black bars on my 4:3 tv :lol
I might even play the game switching to widescreen mode (i mean, even though the TV itself isnt widescreen), its stretches the image a bit but gets rid of the bars.. decisions decisions
But man, i get fuckin HUGE black bars on my 4:3 tv :lol
I might even play the game switching to widescreen mode (i mean, even though the TV itself isnt widescreen), its stretches the image a bit but gets rid of the bars.. decisions decisions
Garryk said:
It took me about 8 hours. Obviously a good deal of that would be shaved off if you account for the time it takes repeating parts of levels you continually die at, but even considering that the game feels like the perfect length. Other than the first stage, I've yet to collect everything in a level, so I still have a ton of time left if I want to get everything. And, unlock other games, I genuinely WANT to go back and thoroughly explore every nook and cranny to find what I missed
Jesus, maybe I've just lost my platforming skills, but this game is hard as hell. I cruised through the first three worlds with little problem, but the Caves world is kicking my ass. I'm losing so many lives working through these stages. Now I'm working on the level where you ride the rocket barrel through the cave full of bats. I've wasted like 15 lives thus far. It almost requires memorization.
I seriously hope the game does not continue at this level as this level and Bombs Away are incredibly frustrating.
Of course, both stages relying on constant forward motion which I find much more devious than any of the regular platforming stages.
edit - alright, GAF is like magic. Just like last night with Bombs Away, I finished the stage immediately after posting this. Maybe that small break resets the frustration level?
I seriously hope the game does not continue at this level as this level and Bombs Away are incredibly frustrating.
Of course, both stages relying on constant forward motion which I find much more devious than any of the regular platforming stages.
edit - alright, GAF is like magic. Just like last night with Bombs Away, I finished the stage immediately after posting this. Maybe that small break resets the frustration level?
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
Seriously, this game is so fucking good.
Damn, this'll make a good Christmas game Ever since I was munching on Donkey Kong ice lollies as a kid I was a fan. I'm happy this isn't exactly identical to the old games either, and that it's not chickening out and being a breeze. It sounds like they've nailed that difficulty sweet spot where you keep coming back to it despite the tough challenge.
All that said, I'm slightly disappointed this apparently doesn't have the atmosphere the old games were strangely competent at emitting. Part of what made Donkey Kong Land 2 so engaging on my old black and white Game Boy was the surprisingly foreboding sense of menace, a lot of which was due to this tune. Granted, none of that suits a game about jumping monkeys on paper at all, but it's surprising how effective it was in practice. Not saying the new game should be one big moody jaunt, but it's a shame to see that all go.
Ah whatever, I'm going to play the hell out of this
Ever since I was munching on Donkey Kong ice lollies as a kid I was a fan. I'm happy this isn't exactly identical to the old games either, and that it's not chickening out and being a breeze. It sounds like they've nailed that difficulty sweet spot where you keep coming back to it despite the tough challenge.All that said, I'm slightly disappointed this apparently doesn't have the atmosphere the old games were strangely competent at emitting. Part of what made Donkey Kong Land 2 so engaging on my old black and white Game Boy was the surprisingly foreboding sense of menace, a lot of which was due to this tune. Granted, none of that suits a game about jumping monkeys on paper at all, but it's surprising how effective it was in practice. Not saying the new game should be one big moody jaunt, but it's a shame to see that all go.
Ah whatever, I'm going to play the hell out of this
I've heard this a few times, can you elaborate? Is it that the momentum from starting the roll makes it easy to overshoot a platform? If you hit left during a roll jump to the right, what would the result be in terms of physics?zweifuss said:
Won't be able to play this until Christmas.
Cygnus X-1
Member
Some new music tracks are very good, but they are way too Metroid-ish. Midi choirs particularly.
Okay, so after the first couple of worlds I got sick of the sideways wiimote and tried the nunchuk setup. It's a waaaay better control scheme between the two. Rolling feels terrible in the horizontal setup. It kinda sucks because there's lots of rolling going on.
Anyway, if you're a purist you should just swallow your pride and just use the nunchuk:lol
But yeah, I'm really, really, REALLLY digging this game.
Anyway, if you're a purist you should just swallow your pride and just use the nunchuk:lol
But yeah, I'm really, really, REALLLY digging this game.
Haunted said:
Same here. GAF doesn't really like DKC SNES series. It's underrated outta here (I guess there has to be a place where those fantastic games are underrated :lol ).
Judging by the first world only I can already tell you the game is great. Wich level of great? Hard to tell. Might just be NSMBWii great. Donkey Kong Country 2 great? Not yet. And I wonder if a waggle roll can permit this status anyways.
Ranger X said:
I fuckin LOVE DKC2 to death, and i think this is almost as good as that, and ill blame the "almost" on nostalgia goggles.
That said, they are mostly different, so its unfair to compare.
edit: also i have 0 problems with the waggle roll on Wiimote + nunchuck combo, figured it would be a pain using the wiimote sideways so fuck it. Game feels a lot better this way guys, i dont get why most of you are going with the just wiimote option.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Haunted said:
It's better. Worlds better.
dark10x said:
All (good) games are like this. When you hit a wall, it's always better to walk away.
SalsaShark said:
It's my preferred method of playing. I like only having to "deal" with the wiimote without untangling the nunchuk every time I pick up the controller. It reminds me of the simplicity of NES controller again. I also enjoy holding down the run button, and using my thumb knuckle to hit the jump button when needed. The shaking doesn't bother me, I just give it a strong "whip", like the reigns of a horse, and I am good to go. I just had to get used to that split second of anticipating the roll, which after playing games like Demon's souls and Monster Hunter, I don't mind having to slightly anticipate an action.
oracrest said:
Well yeah, its a matter of personal taste of course.
Personally, i think that even though the game clearly takes a lot from nostalgia and the older games, i think it has too many buttons and actions to use just the wiimote. You shouldnt need to use the B button to do stuff when using the wiimote sideways (except for once in a while uses), that's a bad sign.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
SalsaShark said:
I haven't tried just the remote but it seems clear that the game was designed for the remote plus the nunchuk and the remote only an afterthought giving us options after all.................but still having motion control because that's what they wanted.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Lathentar said:
Yeah, Ill try and do it today. I've been so busy recently!