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Donkey Kong Country Returns |OT| Retro Studios Has Done It Again!
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nincompoop
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It's not really a classic platformer, it's more about exploring levels to find treasures. Although each level has a series of missions and some of them require good platforming skills to complete.agrajag said:
Anyway, I recommend getting Do Re Mi Fantasy on the Virtual Console.
Haunted
Member
Klonoa and NSMBWii are good. Wario and Epic Yarn come recommended if you don't mind a low difficulty. All classic platforming with no/unintrusive motion control.agrajag said:
On the fringe, there's A Boy and his Blob which is a beautifully drawn puzzle/platforming mix. It's slower-paced.
The two Lost Winds titles and NyxQuest come recommended on Wiiware, both are fresh takes on classic platforming, using the Wiimote extensively.
The SMG games are of course no brainers for 3D. De Blob is also quite good and damn cheap by now, although there's a whole lot of exploration mixed into the platforming.
edit: oh yeah, the VC has a shitton of classic platforming of course, but I think you were mostly referring to newer titles.
Every console has its titles, but the Wii is my favourite platformer... platform this gen. Quantity and quality, all there.
Battersea Power Station
Member
I actually tried another configuration while I was waiting which has R to waggle. If all the buttons are on the face, isn't it hard to run and roll, jump?Stumpokapow said:
agrajag said:
Fear the first world in NSMBWii. It's been made easy and really accessible since most casual will only play that one and also to let them experience the multiplayer fun.
However, don't let this kiosk experience fool you. This is simply the best 2D Mario ever made. You simply cannot be prepared the kind of genuine gameplay and level design the other worlds will bring to you. And the difficulty ramps up greatly. Each level is having their unique touches and the power new power ups are great and put to good use. It'S incredibly well balanced for playing 2 players too (even if it's extremely fun to do it alone anyways). No seriously, don't let people convince you it's just another NSMBDS or a counter-immersive kiosk experience decide, you will miss something that is out of the ordinary.
Chet Rippo
Member
mclem said:
I think he means that the concept of having the triple jump in 2D Mario games is off.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
7-1! Woa! Amazing look, music... sooooo cool.
Wizpig said:
Well, I do not agree with this. It's better than SMB1 but a little tighter than Mario 3.
In my opinion Super Mario Bros and Super Mario World are having the worse controls. (and we are still in the "great controls" category here compared to the industry in general) SMB = a bit too tight and SMBW = a bit too loose.
As for the triple jump well... lol, you don't need to use it if ever you don't like it. It was necessary to use it like twice in the history of Mario all games.
nincompoop
Banned
Which in turn makes them even more rewarding when you do collect them!Ranger X said:
_Alkaline_
Member
Leave the time trials until you've finished the game. They'll come in handy when you pick it up again after some time off.
Benjamin_MFF
Member
I picked up this game last month. I tell you, it is so hard for me to jump on the blue birds in the first couple of stages. It's not that they are difficult, it's more along the lines that they look old and tired. So I don't have much of an inclination to jump on them.
Now some of the good looking bad guys would be the vultures from the first DKC, those guys were mean looking.
Now some of the good looking bad guys would be the vultures from the first DKC, those guys were mean looking.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Benjillion said:I picked up this game last month. I tell you, it is so hard for me to jump on the blue birds in the first couple of stages. It's not that they are difficult, it's more along the lines that they look old and tired. So I don't have much of an inclination to jump on them.
Now some of the good looking bad guys would be the vultures from the first DKC, those guys were mean looking.
Just act like you are putting them out of their misery.
I like those "old birds":lol
One thing I noticed going back to the beginning and trying to collect all the letters is how nice and smooth the progression of difficulty is in this game. Levels that took me anywhere from 10 to 30 lives to beat in the first few worlds were a breeze on the second playthrough.
One thing I noticed going back to the beginning and trying to collect all the letters is how nice and smooth the progression of difficulty is in this game. Levels that took me anywhere from 10 to 30 lives to beat in the first few worlds were a breeze on the second playthrough.
perfectchaos007
Member
So rarely do I play a game these days that make me want to 100% it, but this is one of them. I got this and Sonic Colors for Christmas. I beat Sonic Colors and had no desire to get all the extras in there, but after beating DKCR, I wanted to play more and I knew I had to beat it in its entirety. I'm not there yet but I have 100% the first 2 worlds and gotten 2 orbs. 6 more to go! This game rocks!
Freezie KO
Banned
agrajag said:
NSMBWii is not dumbed down at all. There's some amazing level design in that one.
And, yeah, get Galaxy 2. Get it yesterday.
Then if you really want more go for Wario Land. Solid game if you're interested in doing "missions" within your platforming.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
agrajag said:
Super Mario Galaxy 2 is the best 3D platformer ever made, and not picking it up should be a crime punishable by death.
_Alkaline_
Member
Ranger X said:
World 5 is probably my favourite. Some of the best gaming offered by any platformer.
m.i.s.
Banned
agrajag said:
As you've already expressed an interest in it, go for SMG2 - it really is a stupendous effort with wonderful yet accessible level design. It even autosaves after each star is acquired so is easy to dip in and out. If you want classic platforming, you're better off sticking with SMB1,lost levels,3 and World on VC or go for Super Mario All Stars Wii. NSMB Wii, unlike previous 2D Mario efforts, does absolutely nothing new. And the motion controls are gimmicky.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Its a tricky thing to define. If you're better at precise twitch control then SMW is tight and SMB (Super Mario Bros) is loose. On the other hand, if you're not great at mid-air control and you depend more on a characters defined momentum to make accurate predictive jumps (like me) then SMW can feel very loose as its easier to mess jumps up, while SMB (Super Mario Bros) feels incredibly tight.TheExodu5 said:
SMB (Super Meat Boy) hits an awesome balance of the two though. Probably the best 2D platformer controls I've ever felt.
This.The_Technomancer said:
and This.
NSMBWii doesn't feel quite right to me, and i'd also say that NSMB DS was better in the controls department. (not as a game though)
The jump in NSMBWii feels too long, like you're on the moon... the DKCR one is definitely better.
Oh and of course Galaxy1/2 is perfect for a 3d platformer.
First of all NSMB Wii is completely awesome and will likely end up among the top three games in the series if Mario ever disappears someday. It's that good.
Second, my middle son (10) bought DKCR yesterday and was challenged significantly, but eventually slowed his pace down and figured it out. Those old birds at the start are a pain because they're just sooooo slow. He wanted to kind of rush through and kept stumbling into them (or the frogs).
Beautiful and tightly controlled Nintendo greatness in this one, though. Retro are really among the best Nintendo has.
Second, my middle son (10) bought DKCR yesterday and was challenged significantly, but eventually slowed his pace down and figured it out. Those old birds at the start are a pain because they're just sooooo slow. He wanted to kind of rush through and kept stumbling into them (or the frogs).
Beautiful and tightly controlled Nintendo greatness in this one, though. Retro are really among the best Nintendo has.
Haunted
Member
I like the CC option more than the default, but I realised that the real problem I have with the controls compared to the old DKC games is that there's no roll on the spot and no proper run button, essentially. That's what throws me off most of the time (still in World 8).
Those are my favourite levels!
:lolReiGun said:
Those are my favourite levels!
Kyleripman
Member
:lolBenjillion said:
These birds are actually some of my favorite enemies in the game, along with the moles.
Battersea Power Station
Member
Just beat King Tiki for the first time (end of Volcano). I love the game, but, man, that boss fight kinda exposed the weak controls. It's so laborous to make DK do what you want him to. You have to take into account the time it takes to change direction, the acceleration period, and then the long lag in reaching the peak of his jump. I didn't feel like I was fighting an enemy, but just trying to get my guy moving correctly.
I'm diving into the jigsaws, letters, time trials, and K levels now, and still enjoying it. The more you keep DK in motion, the more fun the game is.
I'm diving into the jigsaws, letters, time trials, and K levels now, and still enjoying it. The more you keep DK in motion, the more fun the game is.
This game.
This fucking game.
This is like the first time in ages where I've been consistently hooked on just exploring the areas of a game in multiple sittings. It starts out as "oh let me just snag some more puzzle pieces" but before I realize it, I'm literally scouring places for secrets and platforming everywhere. Honestly though, sometimes I wonder if I'm getting old or if there is too much going on visually from time to time. Any time I get into a level with lots of movement (i.e. preetty much every minecart level), I have this weird thing happen where I tunnel vision to only DK's immediate area and can't really see anything else happening on screen. :lol
This sucks considering that the game is gorgeous as fuck and I'm still in awe at the dynamic stages. Nothing ever stays in place, and that just makes everything seem so alive.
This fucking game.
This is like the first time in ages where I've been consistently hooked on just exploring the areas of a game in multiple sittings. It starts out as "oh let me just snag some more puzzle pieces" but before I realize it, I'm literally scouring places for secrets and platforming everywhere. Honestly though, sometimes I wonder if I'm getting old or if there is too much going on visually from time to time. Any time I get into a level with lots of movement (i.e. preetty much every minecart level), I have this weird thing happen where I tunnel vision to only DK's immediate area and can't really see anything else happening on screen. :lol
This sucks considering that the game is gorgeous as fuck and I'm still in awe at the dynamic stages. Nothing ever stays in place, and that just makes everything seem so alive.