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[Anbokr]

Lycan's nerf was purely to his wolves and his ability to jungle and farm efficiently. It was a clever nerf.

Naga siren on the other hand got destroyed

except naga was picked and banned quite a bit at ti3 while lycan was picked and banned 0 times? hmmm

The reversion on the riptide nerf was nice, but I think support naga would have functioned regardless. Lycan's +armor buffs didn't get him recognized.

 

[Technosteve]

except naga was picked and banned quite a bit at ti3 while lycan was picked and banned 0 times? hmmm

The reversion on the riptide nerf was nice, but I think support naga would have functioned regardless. Lycan's +armor buffs didn't get him recognized.

Old Lycan was constantly picked because he could farm super effiecently and come out of jungle becoming a fighting machine.

Naga will never be a carry again ;_; that base damage nerf

 

[CarbonatedFalcon]

Old Lycan was constantly picked because he could farm super effiecently and come out of jungle becoming a fighting machine.

Naga will never be a carry again ;_; that base damage nerf

Who needs base damage when you can simultaneously push 3 lanes and farm the jungle with radiance illusions? ¯\_(&#12484_/¯

 

[Anbokr]

Old Lycan was constantly picked because he could farm super effiecently and come out of jungle becoming a fighting machine.

Naga will never be a carry again ;_; that base damage nerf

She's still a solid carry, it's just her support side is so much better right now. You get all the benefits of her strong spells and stats, and on top of that you can pick another carry that fits your lineup better (on top of that she's the ultimate BKB counter and scales well as a support). Plus I assume you're talking about competitive when you say naga will never be a carry again (since carry naga and pretty much anything is viable in pubs), so by that logic, we aren't seeing support lycan (LOL) or carry lycan at all, nada. I'd take some, over none, but that's just me.

Also, never say never bro. This is dota where the meta is drastically changing every 6 months, who knows how naga, lycan, or any other hero will be played/fair one year from now.

 

[The Technomancer]

How on earth is it possible to suck so badly with Viper :/
Had a guy who wasn't even CSing in the beginning and never tried to gank or go for kills.

 

[The Technomancer]

well, yeah, it is, that's what i said xD. AP by nature is broken, that's just the mode. It's a for fun mode (some don't find it fun) where you can do whatever the fuck you want--random for extra gold, practice a specific hero, be nerdy and coordinate picks, try out troll teams. It's a YOLO, man mode of do whatever.

I don't see how you can practice a specific hero in AP at all, since matches are basically all stomps. You don't learn anything about how they handle in a balanced game.

 

[1.09]

VP ran carry naga, Liquid does occasionally too. Base dmg isn't everything when it comes to being a carry, its just shitty players miss so much cs that they think its impossible to carry with that hero. In that sense, SF will never be a carry either.

 

[Gxgear]

Singsing 1v1 mid against pub :3

 

[dekjo]

You have to be in game.

Join the Neogaf chat channel (plus button near upper right), and then leave a message. I'l send you an invite when I see it.

I'd like to get into the guild too, if possible. I'll leave a message in the chat.

I'm still fairly new to dota - doing the training matches at the moment - so am not very good. Once I finish those and start playing in the real world, would prefer it be fellow gaffers who yell/swear at me for feeding/sucking.

 

[Hung_real]

http://www.twitch.tv/sing_sing

sing sing is going up against a no name sf

losing 1- 0 so far .....

 

[Anbokr]

I don't see how you can practice a specific hero in AP at all, since matches are basically all stomps. You don't learn anything about how they handle in a balanced game.

Hmm? I don't know, my experience with AP hasn't been 100% stomps. Lots of good, solid fun games of randoming (occasional stomps). I don't "practice" that many heroes anymore per se, but I got much better with heroes like SF, Lone Druid, and Lycan when I picked them a shit ton months/years back. Went from probably 30% win on each of them across 15-20 games to close to 55-60% across 30+ games just playing AP.

Also you can learn a lot from getting stomped. Especially if you play as a group (or even if you don't), there's usually more to "Why did we get stomped? Did I maximize my hero, what could I have done better on this hero?" than "l ol had dis br nerd in jungle didnt gank suk'd dick gg i nevr get good players on my taem." Hell, like I said I had 30% win on each of my 3 favorite heroes just a few months ago, so I got shitslammed a lot on them before I figured out how to play them decently.

Also SD, RD, and AR are just as imbalanced (from a drafting perspective) as AP.

 

[Holden]

http://www.twitch.tv/sing_sing

sing sing is going up against a no name sf

losing 1- 0 so far .....

༼ᕤຈل͜ຈ༽ᕤ RAZE YOUR SHADOWS ༼ᕤຈل͜ຈ༽ᕤ

 

[ksan]

༼ᕤຈل͜ຈ༽ᕤ RAZE YOUR SHADOWS ༼ᕤຈل͜ຈ༽ᕤ

 

[Baha]

I just unboxed an unusual fearless badger from the summer chest, problem is there is no effect listed. When I preview it however, it does look like ethereal flames but I'm not sure. I'll update this post with a screenshot.

I guess this is the Lava effect.

 

[Hung_real]

sing sing is considering LoL

#daedgame

I just unboxed an unusual fearless badger from the summer chest, problem is there is no effect listed. When I preview it however, it does look like ethereal flames but I'm not sure. I'll update this post with a screenshot.

Tag and Effect from drops are not working right now

 

[Sigismundo]

#daedgame

 

[Skab]

This is going to be absurd

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

Sure, but I think that's broken, and leads to the current situation where half the players in AP are just waiting for the other team to blink.

People should just stop complaining about AP picks, because the mode itself lets you pick whoever the fuck you want. I literally play with people that don't pick until the second wave of creeps appear.

 

[andregnreis]

Yeah I also have problems with Windrunner. During the early phases of the game she is great and powershot can be very good to kill some heroes. But mid-late game shes more of a shackle machine. Powershot does very little damage and it doesnt help that her ulti is one of the worst in the game.

 

[Boken]

People should just stop complaining about AP picks, because the mode itself lets you pick whoever the fuck you want. I literally play with people that don't pick until the second wave of creeps appear.

sounds like a good mode

"dont complain about AP, because its fucked up"

how about we complain, and the mode becomes modernised and fixeD!

 

[Pureauthor]

Yeah, just force a Random pick if the timer runs out. Why is this so hard to do.

 

[CarbonatedFalcon]

Pick after timer, get repick gold. EZ.

 

[Shadowhaxor]

Yeah I also have problems with Windrunner. During the early phases of the game she is great and powershot can be very good to kill some heroes. But mid-late game shes more of a shackle machine. Powershot does very little damage and it doesnt help that her ulti is one of the worst in the game.

I see tons of people saying that but that's not completely true, especially in team fights. Shackle, Power shot and ULT to finish off just about anyone. Plus it's perfect for wrecking towers.

Loves me some Windrunner.

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

sounds like a good mode

"dont complain about AP, because its fucked up"

how about we complain, and the mode becomes modernised and fixeD!

Either the game autorandoms with a chance to repick for waiting too much and starting with less gold or it limits the pool of carries if there are already 2 or some thing. The fact that it is All Pick itself is what makes it "broken", specially solo queuing. People pick the roles and forces everyone to pick differently to what they wanted or they just ignore it.

Limiting the pool fixes (well, for most of the part in my experience) the all carry strats or "troll" picks. Which is the contrary of AP.

If you have some good ideas you can go to the dev forums and give them there. Because it is the people playing the mode, as far as I see the mode is doing its job, letting people pick whatever hero they want.

 

[Randdalf]

My goodness, Lifestealer and Clockwerk are a deadly duo indeed. So much fun.

 

[JakkuFurosu]

A penalty for hittin 0:00 will be more then enough imo.
A random, loss of gold whatever.

It also sucks just waiting for the assholes who afk till the 1minute mark or whatever...then ppl pause and no one knows why blah blah blah

 

[SteveWinwood]

sounds like a good mode

"dont complain about AP, because its fucked up"

how about we complain, and the mode becomes modernised and fixeD!

and you ask why i only play ar

 

[Snowdrift]

If someone hasn't picked a hero by 0:00 they should be given a random hero.

I have a 157/137 W/L. But that is inflated a bit because I played AP almost exclusively and counter picked frequently. Now that I play AR, the outcomes typically depend on skill and team composition.

 

[Boken]

I only started losing because I stopped instapicking middle and carries / started playing SD and AR

tl;dr - everybody is trash

and you ask why i only play ar

why not SD? if theyd give me a little more time to pick in RD thatd be nice.

 

[Servbot #42]

how much you guys have you spent on the game so far? i have spent like 35 bucks so far. its one of the highest money sinkers on the pc side of things i have gotten myself into, i don't think it would work without me falling in love with game tough.

anywhere i can find trades other than dota lounge? i wnt to trade a stone infusion for something else in quirt's chest but i dunnow about that site anymore

 

[wakajawaka]

I only started losing because I stopped instapicking middle and carries / started playing SD and AR

tl;dr - everybody is trash




why not SD? if theyd give me a little more time to pick in RD thatd be nice.

Have you customized your hero layout? It helps a lot in those modes. I have them divided by roles (my weird interpretation) and made bigger the portrait of those heroes I like/ am more comfortable with and smaller those I want to avoid.


Edit: damn ↓

 

[DrTeflon]

Just had like the worst match ever. Warlock dying like crazy, bad teamfights, etc.

Then this happened

I guess it's my luck day lol

 

[Wunder]

wtf

 

[CarbonatedFalcon]

Games have sucked, but at least I got a rare Naga hat after the last one?

Slithereen exile hat. Have the matching blades, only missing the armor from the set now.

 

[Archie]

Dota needs a static metagame so people can choose the most optimal lineups at hero select.

 

[Tobe]

Just had like the worst match ever. Warlock dying like crazy, bad teamfights, etc.

Then this happened




I guess it's my luck day lol

lol at the insults.

 

[Sigismundo]

Then this happened

How was the offensive support Abaddon guide?

 

[vitaminwateryum]

FILHO DE PUTA

 

[shira]

Just had like the worst match ever. Warlock dying like crazy, bad teamfights, etc.

Then this happened




I guess it's my luck day lol

DrKirby am jealous? GGWP

 

[BeBen]

Fuck this game

I literally just got paired against a 5 man queue

While my team had 3 fucking retarded beaners including an Anti-Mage with no Battlefury

I'm fucking flabbergasted at this fucking matchmaking, it's a fucking disgrace

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

Just had like the worst match ever. Warlock dying like crazy, bad teamfights, etc.

Then this happened




I guess it's my luck day lol

Daaaaaamn. How much is that thing going for in the trading sites?

Lol @ beaners; fuck off with that shit m8

Why not solo match making and spare the stack whinnings.

 

[Calidor]

why Volvos why

 

[mastershake]

Fuck this game

I literally just got paired against a 5 man queue

While my team had 3 fucking retarded beaners including an Anti-Mage with no Battlefury

I'm fucking flabbergasted at this fucking matchmaking, it's a fucking disgrace

...

 

[BeBen]

Daaaaaamn. How much is that thing going for in the trading sites?

Lol @ beaners

Why not solo match making and spare the stack whinnings.

This was solo...thats the fucking problem

I only play solo, yea i know fuck me right?

 

[Boken]

Fuck this game

I literally just got paired against a 5 man queue

While my team had 3 fucking retarded beaners including an Anti-Mage with no Battlefury

I'm fucking flabbergasted at this fucking matchmaking, it's a fucking disgrace

whats a beaner?

does the dota2 MM give 5 man stacks a higher chance to play against stacks? or at the least, give 5 stacks a higher MMR when playing against smaller groups?

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Dota needs a static metagame so people can choose the most optimal lineups at hero select.

in the trench nobody gives a shit anyway

 

[The Technomancer]

So our team tried Team MM for the first time today. We actually felt kind of bad. The guys it matched us against were clearly not on our level, they sent Sven and Skeleton King in a lane together, their Meepo had trouble microing and the game ended with their concession 25 minutes in.

It was fun though.

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

This was solo...thats the fucking problem

I only play solo, yea i know fuck me right?

Unless it was removed there's a solo matchmaker that only people solo can play, it doesn't accept parties.

 

[SteveWinwood]

whats a beaner?

does the dota2 MM give 5 man stacks a higher chance to play against stacks? or at the least, give 5 stacks a higher MMR when playing against smaller groups?

Offensive term for mexicans.

 

[BraXzy]

Just played what I think is my first, maybe second game as puck and yeah.. Maybe I should have done some bot matches. I don't get how to do the burst damage early people manage D:

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

Just played what I think is my first, maybe second game as puck and yeah.. Maybe I should have done some bot matches. I don't get how to do the burst damage early people manage D:

AFAIK Puck should be played as followed initiation early beacause of Orb speed until you get Blink dagger.*


*as I've seen, but I had only played Puck once in my life