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Dota 2 |OT11| $400 of Support and Passion
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who here plays a good ta so I can watch some replays? TA skillsets is pretty appealing to me, but I'm pretty bad with her. Especially with her starting range, and me over using refraction and certain mid heroes like Viper.
holy fuck that CM is so amazing.
I spampicked TA to get to 5k but i'm pretty sure all those replays are expired by now.
can confirm cooper bought boosted account he's trash
It remove a lot of the novelty out of the game, it make it more of a professional sport and not actually a game in the end.
I felt actually bad watching starcraft players fail, i laugh when i see dota players do because stakes are nowhere as high when you play this game as a "semi-pro".
Also i seriously don't care about the skill level. Old dota1 games were amazing to watch even when they were played at levels that would be mid 4k by today's standards. If anything it made for really good players more easy to stand out, more solo plays possible and comebacks more common. This ain't starcraft where the level of micro to do even basic actions is insane.
who here plays a good ta so I can watch some replays? TA skillsets is pretty appealing to me, but I'm pretty bad with her. Especially with her starting range, and me over using refraction and certain mid heroes like Viper.
that 109 guy
lv2 pidgey
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lv2 pidgey
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time to watch some sumail replays
shira
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You went to TI5, why would you order again?
Shuggananas
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eh he's pretty basic and fun though
go ham early/mid with flameguard, farm your bf, always keep a safe remnant, play accordingly to the enemy's CC
Depends on what you mean by execution.
If it's just mechanics, then for Koreans in SC and LoL, sure I guess they are known for flawless execution mostly.
The Chinese seem a little different, it's not as much 'execution' as it is 'discipline'. Chinese players regularly get beat in lane and they do make mid-late game mistakes as well, but they are really good at finding the most efficient playstyle and sticking to that.
Back when it was 4 protect 1, they got a bad rep for boring games because they maintained their disciplined strategy above all else. But after the last two TI's it's pretty clear that that wasn't because that was exactly the way they wanted to play, they had just identified that as the best chance to win, so they did that.
The thing is, so far the Chinese super teams have all failed to follow this pattern like DK last year. I don't know if that is overconfidence or some cultural thing about trusting a legend like burning to do his thing, even when it doesn't quite fit the 'efficient' strategy. But if you look at the Chinese teams without the established superstar players like CDEC this year or Newbee last year, they find the efficient strat, and they stick to it until it doesn't work anymore.
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Tried Dragon Knight tonight and thought he was awesome. I seem to find one hero every five I really like. I'm trying to play every hero once in bot games before playing casual.
Empty Space
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Yeah I guess I was conflating execution and discipline as the same thing when they aren't, my bad.
Dragon Knight is pretty great! You usually aren't going to do any fancy plays with him, but he's kind of a workhorse with a good set of spells. Take him mid and get a blink or shadow blade on him for some solid initiation and mobility.
Secret actually breaking up? What a joke. I guess it's what their shitty bandwagon deserves. God forbid a team actually stay together for more than a couple months to develop AS A TEAM. They could have earned their fandom and redeemed themselves but they didn't. All 5 of those guys are pussies. Learn how to take a loss like fucking adult and stop acting like little children. Was so close to feeling bad for them for losing but fuck em all. I guess you shouldn't expect much from a bunch of players that were so eager to fuck their previous teams in order to create a "dream team" in the first place. Bunch of dumb egos that don't even deserve the place they got.
Er, you seem to have placed a lot of claims on them I'm not seeing. So eager to fuck their previous teams? Do you blame Kuro and Puppey for leaving Navi? Maybe referring to S4? The only one I could kinda see it for is RTZ leaving EG, but if the issues they were having as a team were true then once again I don't think it was a particularly awful thing to do. Like, who specifically are you referring to with all this?
did they hurt you in some way?
SteveWinwood
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secret ran over my dog
call_kotaku
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He's an Alliance fan if I remember correctly
SilentRacoon
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You sound like this effect you in some way, calm down. Zai was leaving regardless of how well they did in the tournament, rest of the players might use it as an scapegoat to abandon ship after how things apparently went between Kuro and RTZ after they got eliminated.
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I went mid and grabbed Shadow Blade, Moon Shard, Sange and Yasha and BKB. I'm only playing against medium bots ATM but he felt really great. I just want a stable of maybe 2 - 3 heroes per lane that I really enjoy so I can comfortably fill any role when I move to playing real games.
wrong type of doujins, but ill take it
SilentRacoon
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Right, still problems among the team was something RTZ discussed in an interview earlier this year .
No surprise if they split up, doesn't seem like it was going to work in the long run.
Dreams-Visions
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who here plays a good ta so I can watch some replays? TA skillsets is pretty appealing to me, but I'm pretty bad with her. Especially with her starting range, and me over using refraction and certain mid heroes like Viper.
holy fuck that CM is so amazing.
Just watch some TA play from TI. Several TA picks there.
right for the fuckin throat.
also, I miss his Clockwork play at TI. Need more "Liquid are doing it" in my life. TI3 was so good man. Shit.
The Liquid are doing it clock was Bulba. Who won TI5 as a coach!
Dreams-Visions
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whoops. what the fuck was mike playing back then? I clearly have a senior citizen's memory.
people complained about all the gyro vs pl matches but goddamn they're fun to watch fight even early game
SUDDEN CALL DOWN FLAK CANNON BACKSTAB never stops being hype
he was position 4 or 5, played a lot of CM
SUDDEN CALL DOWN FLAK CANNON BACKSTAB never stops being hype
he was position 4 or 5, played a lot of CM
No, they're just a joke team with joke results and a joke fanbase and I'm having a lot of fun watching them crumble.
SteveWinwood
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Despite the obviously disappointing TI result they still won several major lans. That's hardly a joke. As for their fans, as a (possibly former going by the rumours) Secret fan myself I'm curious why I'm a joke?
Whatever. They won a couple LANs nobody cares about, got pooped on at TI then broke up. That's joke results to me.
call_kotaku
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Sgt.Pepper
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Honestly, pro replays of carries haven't helped me much. Pubs replays do. Pro replays do help me for support.
Most of the time I play carry (not much) I have pretty shitty supports, with no map awarness. Main reason I play support in the first play ha! Watching some good replays of pub stars in solo queue help me more in how to deal with shitty teammates and catch up when the map is mostly on the favor of the opposite team.
SilentRacoon
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Secret still placed among the top 8th teams of the world, that' isn't a joke result at all, and if the other LANs are a joke then why are teams even competing at it, the only joke here is your petty arguments.
All Secret's winnings from 2015 combined isn't as much as their disappointing 8th place TI finish, which makes them all pretty meaningless in the grand scheme. I'm sure I've seen some pro players say as much as well. Nobody has historically really cared about those tournaments aside from using them as training for TI. Scouting opposition, practicing drafts, staying sharp, etc. That's what the Majors are trying to fix. Making actual stakes for the year-round tournaments where there were previously very little.