Gentle Rodriguez
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The entire team did poorly, I wouldn't say he's dropped a tier just because he had a bad tournament. He's still a very smart and young player with a lot of experience.
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The entire team did poorly, I wouldn't say he's dropped a tier just because he had a bad tournament. He's still a very smart and young player with a lot of experience.
Haunted
Member
These are cool.
Even with mobas being as huge as they are, I like the continued efforts to produce introductory content.
Shorty11857
Member
Yeah C9 had a terrible TI but I'd say most of their players are still top tier, they're just really a classic example of a team without strong leadership
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
Cyborgmatt, what are your thoughts?
NormalFish
Banned
Apparently burning said on stream what i said in this thread. I'm basically a pro dota player as far as insight in to dota drama goes, guys.
Monochromaticx
Member
Fish-God !
It all makes sense
They could start performing terribly for a number of reasons. Maybe 6.85 comes sooner than we think and fucks up their playstyle. Maybe people figure out how to beat SumaiL's mid. Maybe, as is often the case, they peak after winning TI and without that motivation to keep them going they get content, don't put the heart into practice they should, and peter out, just like every team who's won a TI has (with the arguable exception of Na'Vi, who made TI finals twice). "Don't mess with success" is a bad idea when it means becoming content while every other team still has the drive and motivation to overtake you. "They won a TI" is the exact reason, I think, they should change things. You're right in that we'll never know now whether them peter(pan dam)ing out would have happened, but I'm guessing EG wanted to avoid finding out.
Sucks for Aui, obvs, and I don't disagree that he won them TI to some extent, but how long does that last? How long until people start figuring out Naga/Techies? How long do those characters stay as strong in the meta? Aui's obviously a talented player and could adapt, but we could say that about several players. I think Aui's stronger than a gimmick pick, but maybe not with EG. So I think changing a winning lineup is something more teams should do. The game, the meta, the scene, is too fluid for them not to.
I resent that
Zai writes an extremely well thought out piece about reddit and how misinformation tends to spread but then he goes on and sides with arteezy vs kuro without giving actual details as to why which will ultimately just fuel more drama on reddit and the likes.
I wish he gave us the full story of what is going on between the two, he obviously has the writing quality to express it in a clear and intelligible way, far more than any journalist or enthusiast in the scene.
This half-half approach only encourages more speculation but I understand not wanting to be the one to escalate an interpersonal conflict in public.
I wish he gave us the full story of what is going on between the two, he obviously has the writing quality to express it in a clear and intelligible way, far more than any journalist or enthusiast in the scene.
This half-half approach only encourages more speculation but I understand not wanting to be the one to escalate an interpersonal conflict in public.
Sorry to derail these fascinating drama posts, but I cracked my phone's screen TWICE. And am asking what kinda phone I should get next.
Leaning towards a nexus 6.
Also anyone have a good deal on some ray-bans? Found these on amazon but if anyone knows a better deal I'm all ears.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001GNBJNW/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Leaning towards a nexus 6.
Also anyone have a good deal on some ray-bans? Found these on amazon but if anyone knows a better deal I'm all ears.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001GNBJNW/?tag=neogaf0e-20
NormalFish
Banned
Shuggananas
Banned
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Visualante2
Member
Yeah good phone, Wired said the new one is water proof. Pretty neat.
6.85
-Oracle and Earth spirit added to captain's mode
-New heroes: Arc warden, Pit lord
Shuggananas
Banned
naga : song of the siren now costs +10 mana
sleverfunk
Member
Ember is fun
Icefrog better buff tb in 6.85. I miss playing him.
Icefrog better buff tb in 6.85. I miss playing him.
This is why I love All Random:
You don't get these games that often but when you do so much fun. Everyone knew we had to win asap, so it was aggression from minute one. After troll got continually styled on he abandoned and the rest was just mopping up.
Next game I got DK who I hadn't played since 2013, ended the game something like 24/7/x. Didn't know the hero can be that fun to play.
You don't get these games that often but when you do so much fun. Everyone knew we had to win asap, so it was aggression from minute one. After troll got continually styled on he abandoned and the rest was just mopping up.
Next game I got DK who I hadn't played since 2013, ended the game something like 24/7/x. Didn't know the hero can be that fun to play.
lucebuce12
Member
I agree.
StrongArmSteady
Member
Whats he saying now...
rhophiehalul78
Member
Oh there's some new dota drama to consume? What a time to be alive.
Shuggananas
Banned
fucking tide buying a stout shield I just can't believe this shit man
If you're not planning on leveling kraken shell early and taking anchor smash it's not a bad early item.
Even if you are, it's a good item. Isn't level 3 kraken + stout shield the point where you take zero damage from ancients?
Shuggananas
Banned
nope, just 200 down the drain
he kept it til the end too
stout and kraken don't stack
he kept it til the end too
stout and kraken don't stack
Monochromaticx
Member
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
IIRC they don't stack at all
Doesn't make Stout a bad item though, he needs it in some lanes until he gets enough levels in Kraken, you need at least level 3 to get 2 points in Kraken and in the offlane those levels don't come for free.
Monochromaticx
Member
He could have gotten ...that ring that gives +3 armor (
) instead tho
cant remember its name
lucebuce12
Member
Ring of Protection? Only useful if he's planning on turning that into something, like a vlads or tranquils. It can be a decent pickup but it's very situational.
Zai is cool but fuck EE and Rtz for saying shit on their streams or random tweets and then complaining about reddit. They're just using their popularity to ruin a guys reputation with absolutely no one knowing any facts. It seriously went from everyone hating EG and Rtz for kicking Aui to hating Kuro in a day
Shuggananas
Banned
what a great feeling it is when you're doing great and then realize your team has been doing shit all game
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1719392186
33 minutes bracers yasha treads. Puck skipping blink. Treant going maelstrom to be le epic. Fuck that seriously.
Obviously a 3 stack too.
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1719392186
33 minutes bracers yasha treads. Puck skipping blink. Treant going maelstrom to be le epic. Fuck that seriously.
Obviously a 3 stack too.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Actually I wonder why nobody wants to actually say what happened. Either don't say anything at all or spill the beans, and the former is clearly not possible anymore. This is some highschool nonsense going on right now.
Monochromaticx
Member
He won't be turning that strout to anything either tho, and its only 150 compared to 200, and he can turn it to ring of basi if he wants.
#iceiceicebuild
It gets worse by the day, Puppey to post his two cents tomorrow and s4 the day after.
There's a reason why organizations don't often reveal the reason for parting ways with someone unless forced to, and it's usually out of respect for the person in question. Could have been quite simply, "we didn't like his play/didn't see him as a good fit for the long run." Not cool to release stuff like that publicly and of course the reddit Salem horde would jump on it like moths to a flame, "BUIT AUI WON U TI!!! U CANT DO THIS FUK PPD!"
Might be that it's all too childish and noone is really proud of it. This is when someone like Cyborgmatt should intervene in my opinion with some kind of press release with statements from both sides to end the drama. Or they could just wait it out until the next dota tele novel chapter airs, maybe it will be Fy stabbing Fenrir in the back this time, that would surely make everyone forget about kureezy.
Like 8 tangos or 2 pooled?
8
Kraken shell and stout are dmg blocks and cannot occur on the same attack
Level 3 tide with 2 in kraken makes stout pointless. I don't know math, but even 1 point in kraken these days is enough to itemize off of getting stout.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
I'm not saying Stout Tide is optimal, just saying it's not the craziest thing to ever happen.
Tide is still so good in pubs, one of my favorite anti pl/meepo last second picks, you just shit on them in the lane unless they have very strong trilanes which is often not the case. And then you proceed to win mid game fights from there. You don't even need blink most of the time, just sustain and tonk everything. He is so hard to force out of a lane if he has enough regen.