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tbf I think now we know why Aui was kicked from C9 even though he is extremely talented. We sort of knew it had to do with his personality since EE said he wouldn't give a reason for the kicking (meaning it was something he felt was personal).
PPD just said it as it is - and it was the right thing to do (maybe his execution wasn't as diplomatic as some people would have preferred).
And Aui started this drama with his first tweet.
PPD just said it as it is - and it was the right thing to do (maybe his execution wasn't as diplomatic as some people would have preferred).
And Aui started this drama with his first tweet.
Imp the Dimp
Member
Again, Aui got kicked out of his last two teams within just a few months. Not even supposedly toxic players like FATA were kicked. It does look like Aui creates an atmosphere even worse.
Shuggananas
Banned
FATA is a cheater doe
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
rakkadakka
Member
Guys arteezy became available and aui was the most toxic person on the team.
Ez kick.
Ez kick.
Look when EE has a better handling of a social situation than you it's probably a sign.
Shuggananas
Banned
Rtz also didnt have any problems with Secret or Kuroky when they were winning. its hilarious to see people acting like EE isnt a huge fuckup just because he kicked Aui though
NormalFish
Banned
Tusr is just like aui tbh
ikr? hue
rakkadakka
Member
manfestival
Member
while I feel bad for aui considering all he has done for the team and organization. I do find ppds cold words very amusing. Well played PPD.
PPD seems to be a very controlling guy. It's not a surprise he really resents being questioned during the drafting process.
Some teams do it as a group with one dominating voice and some teams just defer it all to the captain (voluntarily or by the captain's will, it could go either way).
Some teams do it as a group with one dominating voice and some teams just defer it all to the captain (voluntarily or by the captain's will, it could go either way).
Shuggananas
Banned
the best is people sitting in base for the first 50 seconds of the game to buy their starting items and then you lose both bounty runes because of that shit
obviously most of the time they come in lane with magic wand and a salve
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
So AUI is cancerous after all.
Shuggananas
Banned
awful idea, no thanks
NormalFish
Banned
Yeah, PPD is certainly a dominating presence on that team. I can't imagine it goes over well when someone questions him.
That said.... A captain that gets pissed when his team offers their input on a pick or something needs to sort some shit out.
yeah... Not for me.
StrongArmSteady
Member
There are ways of phrasing things without sounding like a total dipshit. This blog post is a joke and serves as a confirmation of bias for people who hate/like him.
That coupled with the fact that he is "joke" tweeting to Aui on the same fucking day he just took a Monster(tm) shit on him..
I love Artour but my disdain for this fucker outways everything, hope they bleed blue in the next major.
Shuggananas
Banned
just realized veno's gale deals 600 damage at level 4, geez
I'm tempted to try a 4-2-1-0 build on him now, using wards mainly for vision, but I don't know, it's still a DoT so that doesn't sound too reliable
22s cooldown is a lot too.
I'm tempted to try a 4-2-1-0 build on him now, using wards mainly for vision, but I don't know, it's still a DoT so that doesn't sound too reliable
22s cooldown is a lot too.
rakkadakka
Member
Well its t minus whatever hours until aui's interview with thoorin comes out.
So then Reddit can turn on ppd again?
All this drama just convinces me that esports are real. We have our own personality driven shit shows.
So then Reddit can turn on ppd again?
All this drama just convinces me that esports are real. We have our own personality driven shit shows.
This what I took from his blog as well, very controlling and wants people to respect his authority or else. Most likely a horrible individual but i'm guessing we already knew that, I'm taking his point a view with a massive grain of salt.
Try a 4-2-0-1 - In my experience the lvl 1 ward is quite useless and easily killed off.
I went 4-4-0-3 + stats the other day and completely owned my lane. A lot depends on who you're up against ofc.
Shuggananas
Banned
Lack of stun means the build is shite imo
Skipping wards is stupid, it's spammable free vision. I'd rather give 10 gold and 15 exp to the enemy than die because I didn't have vision
Skipping wards is stupid, it's spammable free vision. I'd rather give 10 gold and 15 exp to the enemy than die because I didn't have vision
This is what sucks about everyone believing Aui's kick was uncalled for and demanding reasons and explanations. Now we have them but it only serves to hurt him overall.
And cmon at people hating on ppd's last tweet. It's just a small tease. If anything he's right and Aui should have waited for the official statement. I'm sure he can still shop for a team in the meantime. People in the scene seem to have known and even then they'd know before the public anyways.
> whine about Aui's attitude
> have RTZ join the team
Something doesn't add up here.
But seriously. Who did CDEC waste their first two bans on? It wasn't Sumail (though I feel it should have been, to ban out Storm Spirit). It wasn't even Fear's Gyrocopter. It was Aui's Naga and fucking Techies. It's like CDEC only had 3 real bans. Maybe other teams would have different priorities, but to kick the player that your opponents are most worried about and create a weirdly imbalanced team as a result remains a weird decision.
> have RTZ join the team
Something doesn't add up here.
But seriously. Who did CDEC waste their first two bans on? It wasn't Sumail (though I feel it should have been, to ban out Storm Spirit). It wasn't even Fear's Gyrocopter. It was Aui's Naga and fucking Techies. It's like CDEC only had 3 real bans. Maybe other teams would have different priorities, but to kick the player that your opponents are most worried about and create a weirdly imbalanced team as a result remains a weird decision.
Shuggananas
Banned
Well naga is a top3 OP hero with lesh up there too, only EG and CDEC seemed to understand it this tournament though
Techies is just fucking hell to play against especially under pressure, and aui is pretty good on it, it's not a surprise they're both first bans to be honest
You don't want to pick storm spirit first, you'd expose yourself to counterpicks. Pick him 4th or 5th, 3rd in the worst case. Gyro is manageable although a top3 carry, only PL and AM come close imo, but he's manageable (lina, wyvern, etc)
Techies is just fucking hell to play against especially under pressure, and aui is pretty good on it, it's not a surprise they're both first bans to be honest
You don't want to pick storm spirit first, you'd expose yourself to counterpicks. Pick him 4th or 5th, 3rd in the worst case. Gyro is manageable although a top3 carry, only PL and AM come close imo, but he's manageable (lina, wyvern, etc)
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Let's not act like Naga wasn't a top tier ban at TI whether you're playing vs EG or not.
Right, that's the takeaway. Aui kicked for not respecting PPD's authority. Really appreciate PPD's candor on the matter.
did you even read the blog? it's clear that aui had morale issues that affected the rest of the team that and he interfered with drafting in a negative way. it's draining to play with those kind of players so I understand why they kicked him. even EE said earlier this spring that aui would get toxic when things didn't go so well.
I don't agree with ppd outing auis shortcomings since it ends up hurting him a lot but I find his reasoning for doing so to be perfectly reasonable.
Strong leadership and players that know their role is important in any team looking to compete at a high level. To use an NBA analogy, when Rondo joined the Mavs mid season and started openly questioning the coach and causing tension, he was benched in the playoffs and shown the door.
Also PPD's draft analysis didn't make him sound overly controlling, he develops strategy but took players suggestions into account with picks. Guy knows his faults and has been improving over time, no one's perfect. And none of these people are "most likely horrible individuals," whether you agree with their methods or not.
I'm sure Aui is no angel himself but this makes PPD look all the more petty. If this is the real reason, and not Fear's arm or RTZ or whatever, just come out and say it up front instead of hiding it away until it threatens to ruin your team's reputation (while exacerbating the PR nightmare over twitter with "jokes").
I was being sarcastic.
ed: for the record, I don't think PPD did anything wrong here, ever, including airing all that shit about Aui because Aui and reddit forced him to do so. I think PPD comes off as a dick a lot but he's just being dry and not take shit so seriously. People gonna interpret things however they want tho, so whatever. Have at it, haters.
Shuggananas
Banned
this drama talk is boring and tiring
IF only SaltPPD addressed why some pros feel like it was AUI who gave EG the chance to win IT (and of course universe) and it's still odd that he got kicked. Deep down he knows it wasn't his magic drafts that won it.
For me it's quite simple. PPD is full of himself. He is a boss, not a leader. No sympathy for him. Plus EG made me lose my $12 item :/ Thanks Loki
For me it's quite simple. PPD is full of himself. He is a boss, not a leader. No sympathy for him. Plus EG made me lose my $12 item :/ Thanks Loki
Monochromaticx
Member
wheres the chocobo valve
bleh game unlocks in like 7 hours
do you need to install it do get the chocobo?
JawesomeJaw
Member
wheres the chocobo valve
bleh game unlocks in like 7 hours
Are the items giftable right away? Threw by brother a five for the items, so I'm curious.
Or just say it's due to 'differences' and leave it at that. Or you know, refuse to comment.
As I said, if EE managed to handle a social situation with more tact than you, it's probably time to re-evaluate your attitude.
rakkadakka
Member
Slark is overpowered
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
No please go back to drama talk
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
pls
Aui and reddit forced PPD to shit on AUI instead of just saying their personalities clashed?