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Dota 2 |OT11| $400 of Support and Passion
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I wanted to make a post on this back when Reborn came out, but couldn't because I was banned at the time.
I don't think the in-game UI needs any kind of overhaul without everything gameplaywise being tailored to support something like that. A common argument for this is LoL's HUD and how it's scalable, minimal, etc. LoL's HUD is nice, don't get me wrong, but ever since Dota 1, Dota has been designed to play with a HUD taking up roughly that amount of screen real estate. The gameplay changes that would have to be made would be mainly certain ranges of skills, many being made much larger.
Let's take an example here. Clockwerk's hook range:
Cast Range: 2000/2500/3000
Now, these are pretty large ranges, and assuming there is vision on Clockwerk, it takes a few factors to be able to see it coming and avoid it. These factors are as follows.
1. Map awareness: Even if without looking at Clockwerk, and seeing him on the minimap, you can probably guess if you are in hook range or not.
2. Clockwerk's direction he is facing: If he has his back to you and isn't hooking in your direction, you're fine.
3. Your camera positioning. Unless you can easily guess where the hook is going, you have to look at him to tell where he's throwing the hook.
The hookshot range is across everyone's viewing widths, given how the game is now. If the 21:9 were to be supported, or the HUD were to become minimalistic, it would make a huge difference in how the game would be played, and how the player would have to operate the controls to perceive the world around them.
I would love to see some kind of minimalist HUD option in the future, but I think the game needs to be changed to allow for that and still keep effectiveness of certain skills in the game.
One more example of this: PA's blur. Say for some reason you are farming in the jungle next to the lane she is on, you aren't in range to cancel blur, but just by sitting there farming one of the camps, you can see both yourself and her on your screen, without seeing her icon on the minimap. This definitely diminishes the effect of blur, as you have to shift your camera to look at her if no one on your team is already near her.
I see this happen sometimes. Occasionally I still get the problem of my game just crashing when trying to load into a game. I restart, come back in and it's usually fine after that, but if it happens it's usually the first game I play each day.
I don't think the in-game UI needs any kind of overhaul without everything gameplaywise being tailored to support something like that. A common argument for this is LoL's HUD and how it's scalable, minimal, etc. LoL's HUD is nice, don't get me wrong, but ever since Dota 1, Dota has been designed to play with a HUD taking up roughly that amount of screen real estate. The gameplay changes that would have to be made would be mainly certain ranges of skills, many being made much larger.
Let's take an example here. Clockwerk's hook range:
Cast Range: 2000/2500/3000
Now, these are pretty large ranges, and assuming there is vision on Clockwerk, it takes a few factors to be able to see it coming and avoid it. These factors are as follows.
1. Map awareness: Even if without looking at Clockwerk, and seeing him on the minimap, you can probably guess if you are in hook range or not.
2. Clockwerk's direction he is facing: If he has his back to you and isn't hooking in your direction, you're fine.
3. Your camera positioning. Unless you can easily guess where the hook is going, you have to look at him to tell where he's throwing the hook.
The hookshot range is across everyone's viewing widths, given how the game is now. If the 21:9 were to be supported, or the HUD were to become minimalistic, it would make a huge difference in how the game would be played, and how the player would have to operate the controls to perceive the world around them.
I would love to see some kind of minimalist HUD option in the future, but I think the game needs to be changed to allow for that and still keep effectiveness of certain skills in the game.
One more example of this: PA's blur. Say for some reason you are farming in the jungle next to the lane she is on, you aren't in range to cancel blur, but just by sitting there farming one of the camps, you can see both yourself and her on your screen, without seeing her icon on the minimap. This definitely diminishes the effect of blur, as you have to shift your camera to look at her if no one on your team is already near her.
I see this happen sometimes. Occasionally I still get the problem of my game just crashing when trying to load into a game. I restart, come back in and it's usually fine after that, but if it happens it's usually the first game I play each day.
Is it really that stable to play in ranked now? If it is I might play more matches there now rather than regular client. I just don't want things like the Naga illusion item duplication bug to occur in ranked games, but I haven't heard of anything major like that in Reborn lately, so I don't think I have to worry too much on that front.
So, while Rocket League being AstroTurfed is still inconclusive (I'm telling you guys! Stop having Fun!), can we agree that Polybridge is in fact attrotuffing the reddit? Just looks at these accounts:
You have the account that has barely posted in 3 years: https://www.reddit.com/user/prace/submitted/
The account that is 5 days old: https://www.reddit.com/user/Wright_Meow/
The account that stopped posting for a year: https://www.reddit.com/user/SamNxGn/submitted/
Yep, these are surely are totally normal reddit users posting about the revolutionary bridge building game.
You have the account that has barely posted in 3 years: https://www.reddit.com/user/prace/submitted/
The account that is 5 days old: https://www.reddit.com/user/Wright_Meow/
The account that stopped posting for a year: https://www.reddit.com/user/SamNxGn/submitted/
Yep, these are surely are totally normal reddit users posting about the revolutionary bridge building game.
Wow, now I'm getting a download is corrupt error. Fuck off.
edit - validate files, redownload. Corrupt again.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
Network is apparently down, at any rate.
Woo.
Woo.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
These reborn patches are killing me. Why is the client not separate from the old client??
I have no idea. I'm removed reborn because of this. I keep getting patches and shit when I wanted a good old match yet couldn't do it.
You get 50% bonus Compendium Coins in reborn from the challenges too.
I have no idea. I'm removed reborn because of this. I keep getting patches and shit when I wanted a good old match yet couldn't do it.
You could just push the button to start the game up anyway.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
SteveWinwood
Member
i had to validate 3 times before it worked
GoldandBlue
Member
Game crashes for me anytime I try to look at Pugna in the loadout.
they work, but they dont appear in the settings.
yeah that's the thing that impresses me the most, they feel like believable situations in how people behave and interact with each other, plus it's just interesting in general, and there's a lot of messages they throw around that are genuinely thought provoking. never expected that from a show starring a fucking horse.
Meh, without them spamming reddit I wouldn't have known about the game and wouldn't want to buy it as soon as it leaves Early Access.
edit: Also, YAY TI5 tickets!
You know one thing I noticed over the years, people don't seem to realize why Alpine Ursa was actually taken down. It wasn't because it was "Lore Breaking", it was that it had mostly negative votes and got in anyway, basically saying peoples opinions didn't matter.
SteveWinwood
Member
windrunner is like
super fun to play
her animation is amazing
super fun to play
her animation is amazing
re: talk of espn dota and mainstream media coverage of ti 5
i hope they have real casters who understand the rules of the game and don't use inhouse sportscasters who have a very tenuous grasp of the sport...
because the espn2 casting of the pan am games (taekwondo) is prrrretty bad
i hope they have real casters who understand the rules of the game and don't use inhouse sportscasters who have a very tenuous grasp of the sport...
because the espn2 casting of the pan am games (taekwondo) is prrrretty bad
Pretty sure for other sets in the past sometimes it is still "Valve's Choice" for a few.
Streaming Reborn Ranked games, mainly to do reborn stuff and see if my internet is actually fixed or not. Let me know if the stream gets choppy/has other weird shit going on.
http://www.twitch.tv/hylian7
http://www.twitch.tv/hylian7
SilentRacoon
Member
Can't even turn the music off in reborn client
Also it feels like the game suffers from mini- stuttering at all times, i'm not sure if this is related to my internet connection or not but this didn't happen at all in any of my custom games.
Also it feels like the game suffers from mini- stuttering at all times, i'm not sure if this is related to my internet connection or not but this didn't happen at all in any of my custom games.
youre not alone
Glass Shark
Banned
SteveWinwood
Member
HEY GUYS WHATS HAPPENING I LOST MY HEARING AFTER THE REBORN BETA
THANKS VALVE NOW IM DEAF
THANKS VALVE NOW IM DEAF
Oh god. Maybe it has a ton of particles to look good or something. At this rate all the TI5 Trove Cask items are going to be ugly hats.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
I heard you like music so now you can listen to music while you listen to music
I actually really like my free octopus hat
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
i should bother in learning in how to make digital hats
everyone and their mothers just stick fucking goofy armor on heroes
everyone and their mothers just stick fucking goofy armor on heroes
misses bull
Banned
You ever flame a guy so hard you feel bad after wards
misses bull
Banned
Devils Third is not only coming out on the Wii U, it is going to be a F2P PC game.
'Devils third will use the full power of the gtx 980"
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Devils Third is not only coming out on the Wii U, it is going to be a F2P PC game.
The only constant here is how trash that game looks