I don't think that's the case right now, but the point still stands that he has always had a horrendous pub winrate, even when he was literally a free win.
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Gentle Rodriguez
Member
None super popular but none of these are shit right now. Thing is, you're so far behind that you might as well just jump in and see for yourself how the game has evolved. Either that or read 3 hours worth of patch notes. Drow is a decent hero again btw, almost every hero is usable in pubs right now, balance is the best it has been since...forever.
Also you might want to read up on Techies.
Glass Shark
Banned
Hylian has played more matches against Slark than any other hero*, this explains the grudge
*in the last 3 months
*in the last 3 months
he's still pretty much an exception, due to not being in competitive. and at my skill bracket i never see earth spirit (thank god).
Cellbomber
Member
Do you need to win the matches in reborn or just after its installed for the compendium points? First set of points just says 5 matches once installed.
Glass Shark
Banned
perfectly balanced hero THE PROOF IS HERE
Glass Shark
Banned
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1656586127
I was fucking Spectre, who shouldn't lose to a Slark late game. We fucking lost. How? Because we couldn't kill the goddamn Slark, even late game.
Imp the Dimp
Member
Slark is very good late game and Spectre doesn't out-manfight him and I'm not sure why you think she could? She should massacre his team but she's honestly not good versus him toe to toe.
4122 solo MMR, son.
4122 solo MMR, son.
Thanks for writing my post for me.
SteveWinwood
Member
just because you picked a carry and made it to late game doesn't entitle you to a win
the games a bit more complicated than that
the games a bit more complicated than that
Exactly, because he is fucking Slark, and we should have been able to come back and win that. We lost because of stupid shenanigans trying to kill Slark and nothing was working.
You say that like I don't do that, just to give you a reason to say " No, you're bad, only the big boys get to talk about balance. " All you really post is condescending garbage anyway.
SteveWinwood
Member
have you considered maybe it was you and your teams fault instead of something inherently wrong with slark
like you did some things poorly or incorrectly throughout the game?
Beyond the pick screen and changing the past, I don't know how else we could have dealt with Slark. There were so many times we took care of everyone else, we just had to kill him and we could win the game. But we couldn't do it, the fucker gets away almost every time.
Why should you have been able to do that?
It looks to me like you didn't deserve to, so you didn't.
He's 36-6 FFS, if anybody deserved to win, that's him.
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Deleted member 77995
Unconfirmed Member
were there ever instances of people wasting valuable spells items for a feeding silencer
Imp the Dimp
Member
wat no
No one spampick slark anymore anyway. 6k+ spampickers players all go BS, Lesh, etc...
Nerf slark.
Huskar is still bad because everyone has pure/physical damage nukes and he's absolutely the worst shit if you aren't ahead.
Shuggananas
Banned
don't see how slark doesn't beat spectre late
for the duration of his ult + pounce he already fucks her up big time, then when he's out of invis he has a massive DPS advantage because of shift
on top of that he had magnus for empower what do you expect
for the duration of his ult + pounce he already fucks her up big time, then when he's out of invis he has a massive DPS advantage because of shift
on top of that he had magnus for empower what do you expect
Because we survived that long, caught up, QoP was pretty high up there too and we even had hex for him. It would have been totally doable vs any other hero.
Nah, he need not to be a basher hero, bash make no sense on him tbh. Unless sprint also increase IAS maybe but then it's just berserk. That hero is megaboring tbh i don't care about him.
Buff Legion Losemander please
NormalFish
Banned
Spectre with refresher + manta and slark is a non issue tbh. The big difference is that spectre just ulti and all ur supports die and can't properly initiate, and then 1vs1 a manta spec kill anything solo.
More important, Bloodseeker totally stops Slark's mobility with Rupture, which is one of the best ways to shut down a Slark. It's like Rupturing a Timbersaw.
If farm is equal, Spectre will crush Slark late in a one-on-one fight. Manta desolate is waaaaay too much damage to handle. But you know, if Slark has 36 kills, then you probably don't have equivalent farm.
If farm is equal, Spectre will crush Slark late in a one-on-one fight. Manta desolate is waaaaay too much damage to handle. But you know, if Slark has 36 kills, then you probably don't have equivalent farm.
SteveWinwood
Member
I think this is an awful attitude to have. Literally every person playing this game can improve at almost everything they do in it. That's what makes this game such a time sink and learning experience. Saying there is nothing you could do is so self defeating yeah I guess you did lose at the pick screen.
Shuggananas
Banned
manta doesn't matter if slark is ahead in farm and pounce + ults + auto attacks you, then abyssals you right before he's out of invis and keeps bashing your head in
fuck refresher on spectre, waste of a slot and gives garbage passive when it's not up
sleverfunk
Member
I can't think of any hero who is more useless than Elder titan right now.
Dude needs changing.
Dude needs changing.
I spampick slark
Lately Icefraud has been nerfing heavily spampicker heroes. Meepo got slaughtered even though he was a non-issue in competitive games and he was one of the strongest spampicker hero with everyone getting 7k with it. Earth spirit was another spampicker hero which had trash winrate but was insane in 6k+ games and got slaughtered as well. Troll was good but didn't have a good winrate in competitive iirc (53%?) and got slaughtered as well, i suspect mostly because of the many spampickers he had.
Imp the Dimp
Member
Refresher in base or in courier. Nobody carries that shit around.
Imp the Dimp
Member
Troll was like 100% p/b in competitive. His winrate was probably unremarkable because teams deliberately let him through with a plan in mind as to how to deal with him.
Ultimately, it comes down to attitude. You gain nothing with this line of thinking, Hylian. Absolutely nothing. In fact, it's probably harmful.
You have a game go bad, fine. You vent about it, and think about your mistakes, and then move on. Like you said, you can't change the past, whether in that game against Slark or for any game you've played in DOTA. All you can do is look towards the next game.
You have a game go bad, fine. You vent about it, and think about your mistakes, and then move on. Like you said, you can't change the past, whether in that game against Slark or for any game you've played in DOTA. All you can do is look towards the next game.
SilentRacoon
Member
SE on QoP instead of orchid against slark? There is your main problem, looks to me like your team didn't build properly against him.
you did zero tower damage. why were you chasing slark around trying to kill him instead of killing towers? can he solo your entire team while you're trying to push?
SecretMoblin
Member
BKB ruins Spec even in late game... taking spec late, even being 6-slotted, even with abyssal, and assuming that you deserve to crush everything ez peezy is going to give you a lot of frustration when things don't work out like that
also yes, get on the minibash train. minibash enchantress is coming
also yes, get on the minibash train. minibash enchantress is coming
SteveWinwood
Member
haunt should minibash
If slark has twice ur farm u die. Well yeah.
NormalFish
Banned
Reminds me of spirit breaker back when he was percieved as being* broken as fuck. competitive showed everyone he could be dealt with, but he was such a terror in pubs that he got gutted.
SecretMoblin
Member
support minibash today on itunes and google play
Heroes which have 100% p/b rates but no huge winrate tend to be slightly nerfed, not as much as troll was. Like Mirana did and QoP will if i had to guess.
Nerf
Legion commander Q should minibash tbqh