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Heroes which have 100% p/b rates but no huge winrate tend to be slightly nerfed, not this much. Like Mirana did and QoP will if i had to guess.

Nerf
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Yeah, Troll got slaughtered. Really saddened me. Might be among the worst heroes in the game atm actually.
 

kionedrik

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slark passive is the only thing that's broken with the hero. even if you do get the kill on him, he's got 20+ stats just from right clicking you, buys back, 20+ more right clicks and he's suddenly a god.

He's back without those stacks. So he has to work to win that power back and unlike SF he can't kill neutrals to get it.
 
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He's back without those stacks. So he has to work to win that power back and unlike SF he can't kill neutrals to get it.

I think (?) he meant that the debuff remains on the victim, which still makes the relative difference grow after a buyback
 

twobear

sputum-flecked apoplexy
slark passive is the only thing that's broken with the hero. even if you do get the kill on him, he's got 20+ stats just from right clicking you, buys back, 20+ more right clicks and he's suddenly a god.
Stacks don't persist through death...
 

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Artanisix

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"assuming you have radiance manta skadi
if he has skadi abyssal silver edge bfly he'll fuck you up"

i would hope so if he has +5000 gold on you
 

Haly

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And one guy there is clearly built for dueling while the other isn't.
 
I don't think I've ever lost a duel as slark against spectre unless the spectre is crazy far ahead.

That said, I don't think I've played vs many spectres as slark.
 
Silencer can permanently remove 2 Int from you and it can matter a lot. Should we nerf that too?

-2 intel compared to -20 str/agi/int
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nothing comparable tbh, silencer's steal is ok but doesn't matter if you're not roflstomping, and if you're stomping it won't make a difference anyway
 

Volodja

Member
Because we survived that long, caught up, QoP was pretty high up there too and we even had hex for him. It would have been totally doable vs any other hero.
I mean, Hex is the only lockdown you have aside from a massively underfarmed Warlock ulti, that's not gonna be enough to save you against many more heroes than Slark when they have such a massive gold advantage, especially when Tinker behind him is shitting damage close to the level of that same Slark.

Your BH died 18 times.
Both your Zeus and your Warlock are really underfarmed and Zeus isn't even level 15 1 hour into the game.
You were 6k gold and 13k gold behind their 2 cores.
QoP is the only hero that has comparable levels of farm and she's against 2, one of which has a permahex and she has no BKB.

How the hell is that a game you should win?
 
If I was slark with Treads, SnY, Skadi, AC I would feel comfortable taking a duel against a spectre with manta/diffu, skadi, radiance

But maybe I'd die.
 

kionedrik

Member
If I was slark with Treads, SnY, Skadi, AC I would feel comfortable taking a duel against a spectre with manta/diffu, skadi, radiance

But maybe I'd die.

imho AC is a terrible item on slark. you're better off with diffusal or hex but basher is the way to go normally.
 

Hylian7

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lmao who cares hehe

i always thought that desolate is for killing supports rather than duelling other carries. spectre doesn't have the attack speed to be that much of a manfighter.

It's pure damage and also he said "for dueling", and I'm proving that Spectre is a "1v1 me bro" type of hero that can win out. Desolate is part of how she carries. Illusions get full benefit from it, you can also manmode some fights with it too.
 
literally everything on AC is good on slark. hardly "ass"

it gives 0 stats
there's no proper time to build the item, there's always something better to buy depending on the time of the game

Im pretty sure 6 slotted slark wins vs 6 slotted spectre 99% of the time in a 1v1
Depends on the items ofcourse

I think so too, needs testing in a lobby
bfly (mkb or bkb) skadi abyssal silver edge BoTs for slark
vs
bfly manta skadi heart radi BoTs for spec
 
it gives 0 stats
there's no proper time to build the item, there's always something better to buy depending on the time of the game

Generally, I get AC when I am against lots of physical damage, or it's particularly good vs a certain hero (slark with AC destroys legion). If I have the cash, I'll get butterfly instead, but against really physical-damage heavy comps I get both.

saying it gives no stats isn't necessarily representative, is the big thing, though. because of slark's passive, attack speed effectively gives you agility. The debuff on your target is quite strong, too.

I dunno. I see why people would prefer other items, but I am yet to lose with the item on this patch so I'll keep building it.
 

shira

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twobear

sputum-flecked apoplexy
have we talked yet about the irony that someone who sings the praises of spectre (57% pub wr) is saying that slark (50% pub wr) is OP and broken?

in other words, spectres current pub win rate is around the same that troll warlord's was at its peak
 

Hylian7

Member
have we talked yet about the irony that someone who sings the praises of spectre (57% pub wr) is saying that slark (50% pub wr) is OP and broken?

in other words, spectres current pub win rate is around the same that troll warlord's was at its peak

If Spectre was considered OP and nerfed, I would not be surprised.

Slark's still OP.
 

Wok

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Slark is fine as it is now, just because his laning phase is usually ultra-crappy. Until he gets level 6, he is so easy harass in any lane.
 

twobear

sputum-flecked apoplexy
Slark is one of the better balanced heroes in the game right now. Don't blame your failures on hero design.
 
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