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Dota 2 |OT13| 6.86, our Pit Lord and savior

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Shuggananas

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Deltoid

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i always liked the sound of vive

shira said:
I think AR in the end wins, but gamers want VR to goodbye, real world

$599 USD
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ar will have more real world applications, but nothing will beat the immersion of vr, they don't really compete with each other. although ar is a while away.
 
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rakkadakka

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Lol at plebes thinking occulus would be cheaper.

Get a job you bums.

GAF is going to be a wondrous place when psvr price is announced.
 
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Hylian7

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That's about what I expected Oculus to cost. I'm unsure if it will fail or not. The barrier of entry may be too high, however if they can market it well enough (read: demo stations everywhere), they may be able to convince people. I've tried an Oculus before, and I was skeptical before. Trust me, this is the real deal. And the Vive will go above that.
 
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Deltoid

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i know the tech is expensive, but I thought facebook would subsidize this gen. I was expecting $499 max.

I'll probably jump in with gen 2 since I don't even have a gpu in my computer yet

shira said:
The VIVE sort of has AR with the front facing camera that allows you to see and interact through the headset
http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/5/10714522/htc-valve-vive-pre-v2-development-kit-ces-2016
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yo that's actually pretty good #vivefuture

Shuggananas said:
nvm 700 euros plus shipping LMAO
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holy shit and I thought £499 was bad
 
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Imp the Dimp

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I'm not playing 6.86 much differently than the two previous patches, I have to admit that. I do enjoy that SF and QoP were toned down though. Overall, it still feels like there is a lot of pressure in the mid game and picking weak lanes, junglers and/or safe lane carries with little early and mid game impact will lead to losses more often than not just like in 6.84 and 6.85.
Obviously, the patch hasn't been played competitively enough to draw conclusions yet. Usually, pros figure stuff out and shape the pub landscape with it and that is yet to happen. I'm having fun with it but it doesn't seem to be a huge meta shift. Probably bigger than 6.84->6.85 though.

and rofl @ that "Fallout 4 Nuclear Disappointment" thread. Page 1 is one pretty hilarious graveyard.
 
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shira

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kionedrik said:
Am I the only one that believes VR will be a massive flop and completely forgotten by 2018?
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For hardcore gaming maybe. It's perfect for something like racing and EVE Valkyrie where you are stationary in a seated position looking around a cockpit. But will people accept VR Call of Duty where you are seated but running around and shooting.

There will be a shit tonne of casual games where people try to find that killer app. Cheap and short turnaround, re-use wii assets.

Sex games, dating sims, and porn apps are going to drive VR
 
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G.ZZZ

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VR porn is why i'll probably buy it tbh (in a couple years or so i guess). That and panorama/space shit. Everyone that has tried it said that there's no way this will fail, and i'm thinking the same tbh. The applications for VR are also pretty huge outside of the gaming realm too. You could easily for example, operate withouth the need for actual doctors in an operating room. Simulators are gonna get a huge bump in actual efficiency if VR get developed further.

Space sim plz.
 
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M.D

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G.ZZZ said:
VR porn is why i'll probably buy it tbh (in a couple years or so i guess). That and panorama/space shit. Everyone that has tried it said that there's no way this will fail, and i'm thinking the same tbh. The applications for VR are also pretty huge outside of the gaming realm too. You could easily for example, operate withouth the need for actual doctors in an operating room. Simulators are gonna get a huge bump in actual efficiency if VR get developed further.

Space sim plz.
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You might want to upgrade that laptop before you do
 
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call_kotaku

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Also, early adopters mostly aren't the sort of people who post on this forum. They're the sort of people who buy 3 monitors and a motion rig for their millimeter-accurate A-10 cockpit, or bought a palm pilot before Steve Jobs made smartphones actually look cool.

They're definitely not the sort of people who fight over which game console is better because they don't have the money to buy both, or who play 1500 hours of a free PC game that can run on a Peruvian toaster. That's just sort of the reality (ha) of it.
 
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Quesa

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Icefrog told me that if you wear a vive while playing dota it will give you permanent true sight and unobstructed vision
 
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shira

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Looks like BTS is fastracking llama, I guess we'll see if she has the chops to do TI6 or not very soon

http://beyondthesummit.tv/shanghai-major-coverage

Insanity hub:
LD, Godz, kotlguy, merlini, shane, lyrical, kpop, blaze, eosin, llama (probably Demon)

Remote casters:
XYCLOPZ, hades, Lysander
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kionedrik said:
I don't WANT it to fail, I just THINK it will.

Hell, I'm even imagining there will be some stress induced deaths caused by these things in the first week(s).
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I'm guessing there will be a 10-20% uptick in eyestrain and vision problems
 
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TUSR said:
if only the game was $25 and had more maps
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When it worked it was actually exhilarating: a team that communicates with voice chat to say what they're doing, what they can see, what's going on, the tension of having only one more person on your team left, all that kind of thing. It works really well.

But!

It doesn't happen very often, and there's no controls to make it less toxic. I was on a team where a guy teamkilled me at the start of every round. There was literally no reason, everyone told him to stop, but he didn't give a fuck. There was nothing I could do about it. You can mute voice, but not text chat. And... that's it. It went on for round after round.

Even when the teams weren't actively hostile, a mere lack of voice chat and clear communication was severely detrimental. Matchmaking appeared to take no account of skill or ability, making for a number of seriously one-sided matches. Unless you had a perfect team that really understood the kind of teamwork needed in the game, it was not a great game.

And even when it worked, I found it quite monotonous. I guess the "Siege" part of the name should have been a giveaway, but I would have loved something more than close quarter combat. One of the operatives is even a sniper, but he has precious little opportunity to snipe.

There's also the small issue of grind. You need to play an absolute fuckload of games to unlock all the operatives, and a decent selection of gun attachments. Worse, there are some operatives who share guns--but they don't share the unlocks! They have to be unlocked separately.
 
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call_kotaku

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DrPizza said:
When it worked it was actually exhilarating: a team that communicates with voice chat to say what they're doing, what they can see, what's going on, the tension of having only one more person on your team left, all that kind of thing. It works really well.

But!

It doesn't happen very often, and there's no controls to make it less toxic. I was on a team where a guy teamkilled me at the start of every round. There was literally no reason, everyone told him to stop, but he didn't give a fuck. There was nothing I could do about it. You can mute voice, but not text chat. And... that's it. It went on for round after round.

Even when the teams weren't actively hostile, a mere lack of voice chat and clear communication was severely detrimental. Matchmaking appeared to take no account of skill or ability, making for a number of seriously one-sided matches. Unless you had a perfect team that really understood the kind of teamwork needed in the game, it was not a great game.

And even when it worked, I found it quite monotonous. I guess the "Siege" part of the name should have been a giveaway, but I would have loved something more than close quarter combat. One of the operatives is even a sniper, but he has precious little opportunity to snipe.

There's also the small issue of grind. You need to play an absolute fuckload of games to unlock all the operatives, and a decent selection of gun attachments. Worse, there are some operatives who share guns--but they don't share the unlocks! They have to be unlocked separately.
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It sounds like the Payday 2 model of "you paid for a pretty decent game but we're not going to let you play it"
 
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Acinixys

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Regards to the Vive vs Rift argument

All you early adopters please enjoy all the gross bugs and shitty 1st year games you are going to have to deal with

In 2017/8 when VR headsets only cost 299 and have had 20 revisions to make them excellent, I will buy one

Meanwhile enjoy your overpriced monitor that can currently only play weird sex games and walking simulators
 
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kvk1

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Acinixys said:
All you early adopters please enjoy all the gross bugs and shitty 1st year games you are going to have to deal with

In 2017/8 when VR headsets only cost 299 and have had 20 revisions to make them excellent, I will buy one

Meanwhile enjoy your overpriced monitor that can currently only play weird sex games and walking simulators
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lol?
 
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