Less than an hour I'd say, only 3,000 to go!
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Dota 2 |OT5| TECHIES!!!
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Less than an hour I'd say, only 3,000 to go!
Krauser Kat
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Viper is a little squishy but TP scroll should get you out of there in jiffy. You could also try to use blade mail on him.
How does a squishy hero deal with spiritbreaker and any other hero in lane. I seems once his ult is online he can gank me all day.
How does a squishy hero deal with spiritbreaker and any other hero in lane. I seems once his ult is online he can gank me all day.
Nintendo characters to be added to Dota 2 confirmed?
Here's why you don't sunbathe with Twitch chat around. http://www.twitch.tv/thegdstudio/b/530320657?t=14h32m10s
Imp the Dimp
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Don't farm lanes alone if Spirit Breaker is ahead in farm. He used to be a pain in the butt in 6.78 but he's pretty mediocre now. He can't charge into two heroes and survive usually.
Tobi trying really hard to be the most hated Person in the GDhouse
More like 15 minutes I guess. "ITS HAPPENING" as they say.
He doesn't even need to try, he just IS.
If your a support, never wander alone and always be near your carry. He's less likely to charge at you then. If your team has good communication, you can shadow blade so he can't combo you whwn you know he's coming. He also falls apart late game so the longer the matches go, the weaker he gets.
SolidsnackooFoxhound
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we are going to make it guys!
In addition to what was mentioned already, you can interrupt charge with a stun if you have fast fingers. And you can fog his ult, so if there are trees next to you run behind them as he charges (ha) up his ult.
Imp the Dimp
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That was changed in 6.81 I think. His ult was too shit with the fogging thing.
Gentle Rodriguez
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I have a feeling the new stretch goals are going to be added as soon as 6 million is reached. I'm probably wrong.
I can't see anything in the changelog. The range was increased though.
Imp the Dimp
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Oh, I might be wrong. Haven't played in over a month due to internet problems.
edit: It's actually the case. It's a 6.80 change however.
Gentle Rodriguez
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I was wrong
balladofwindfishes
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I kind of get the feeling Valve seriously underestimated the whales with the compendium leveling.
Marauder Shields
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I like this Fogged/Fear caster combo. Seems like Fear is as good a play caller as he is in the analyst role.
Imp the Dimp
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CNB has been losing every engagement since the laning stage and are so far behind. Why don't they just GG out?
Thanks for the tip. Will definitely get more prepared next time with Bloodseeker.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
If they release another set of stretch goals, and they're decent - 10 million is coming.
EDIT: Get to the bunker, Matt
EDIT: Get to the bunker, Matt
Thanks ! I've been tweaking this build but it's really not working out (I've linked my build on steam but it doesn't seem to show). I'm starved in the early game because of light regen and no mobility so I'm always in the sideline not being able to get involved in fights and since this hero seems to be effective in the early-mid game I'm missing a lot of impact and get facerolled. I'll try this one out instead and see how it goes. Looks more promising and better suited for early pressure (and surviving it).
cuevas. PhD.
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What stream was the 2 hour match on? I wanna watch them farm
So, a few things I noticed. The measurement used is cs/min. This is a fairly good measure for farm dependency, as he explains. However, it is also indicative of what I mentioned about farming speed. If a game goes ultra late, to the extent that slower farmers can catch up to a hero like AM, then they could beat him. So it's important that he farms at maximum speed (so a higher cs/min) in order to maintain his advantage and end the game before that catch up occurs. And I feel this trend is reflected in the chart. AM is first, followed by Void (Battlefury is his 4th most used item in pubs according to dotabuff, barely behind Daedalus and way above the 5th place item, indicating players are using him similarly to AM with timewalk instead of blink), who are a considerable way ahead of the rest. Then other flash farmers who don't carry quite as hard as the super ultra carries like Luna, Alch, LD place high as well. Heroes like Medusa, PL, Spectre place a little lower.
Now, there are other factors affecting placements here, so the sample is tainted, to an extent. Huskar, for example, does not fit my criteria but is 4th for other reasons. However, I think the trend that faster farmers with earlier timing windows require higher cs/min is visible here. And this is still in the realm of hard carries, as flash farming semi/mid game carries like SF or PA or Meepo, who have those same timing windows but have less late game potential (or more late counters in PA's case), place slightly lower also.
As for which heroes are the hardest carries, I'd agree that AM is a great manfighter when six-slotted. Certainly he is more of an ultra carry than Alch, Luna etc. But my point about context is that Dota will never be just about manfights. For instance, 1v1 AM would cripple Medusa's main defense thanks to mana burn, making him win that fight. But in a 5v5, if she has split shot turned on then you have her low, then notice she just wiped all of your teammates, whilst you did very little damage to hers, so they swing the fight and you die. This is just one tiny example of why a certain carry skillset is going to be better than others in certain contexts. Another could be that they picked a greedy lineup with two very good late carries, and your team has gotten two raxes, but haven't been able to close the game out, and those two carries are now super farmed. A Void would struggle here as the weight of those two carries would overwhelm him in fights, but a PL, who is usually considered weaker than other ultra carries, could suffocate and slow siege the opponents with the super creeps, eventually taking that last set of rax and the base with his unrelenting illusion spam, never having to fight those 2 carries directly. Context, context, context.
I feel like this post could be a lot shorter, and frankly I may have been arguing with points you didn't even make, but getting the point across eloquently was kinda hard.
dorkimoe
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Dude Abides
Banned
Get rampage.
Lose anyway.
Feels bad.
Lose anyway.
Feels bad.
tammolives
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I'm also looking for one. Steam ID: tammorabbit
Promise I can be cool.
Edit:
Has anyone noticed unusually bad pings to the Dubai servers? I'm in Israel, ping would be faster to South Africa from here.
Off lane. Laning phase was fine and were winning about the first half of the game. My team kept clumping for a 4-man Crush into Epicenter. Even when I could get an Orchid or stun on SK, it didn't matter, my team was wiped with no problem and of course I was usually the last one standing.
I made a mistake late game going for a pickoff on SK, although I think we might have gotten it and escaped it LC reacted a bit quicker.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
This man knows what's up. Spectre is easily my favorite carry in the game right now, I play as her every chance I get. Her ult is simply too good in terms of letting you farm
manfestival
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I did not buy a compendium. I feel rebellious and awesome for not giving into peer pressure. Screw you guys!
Procarbine
Forever Platinum
Just to remind everyone, nothing but bkb gets rid of that silence now.
I'm surprised we still haven't had any of the rewards through.. Surely they'd prepare for whatever it is in advance, immortals included and have them made if they decided that they were going to be given out?
And I'm surprised the stretch goals haven't already been updated to keep the momentum.. But hey I guess #ValveTime.
And I'm surprised the stretch goals haven't already been updated to keep the momentum.. But hey I guess #ValveTime.
balladofwindfishes
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Well, the bar is still moving on the site. I would that thought they'd cap it before they added new goals, otherwise it could hilariously spill off the bottom of the counter if they let it go too long.
SteveWinwood
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Isn't that why they extended the bar yesterday?
I mean we have room to 7 million and we're not going to hit that today or the next most likely. Blog post at the end of the day my guess.
But BKB doesn't either.
FlutterPuffs
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How do you use her Ulti effectively?
It's the one thing that I've never get with her.
Imp the Dimp
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You farm, your team engages in a fight, you join. Also, I HIGHLY recommend having Desolate at 4 by level 7 over the nuke which sucks ass. One level in Spectral Dagger as an escape suffices easily. This hero is ass in lane but comes back pretty easily because she can get assist money for free once she hits level 6.
Also, there is very little who can deal with her late game. Shadow Demon is a pretty good counter but a rarity in pubs and ever since I saw a Spectre outcarry a fed Lifestealer and a fed Tiny simulatenously I'm a believer. To be fair, the Magnus with Refresher RP probably had a say in that as well but that game was one of the most exciting pro games I had seen in quite a while.
Pretty much this. You play Farmville 2014 HD Remix 3 Lane Edition and fight when the ulti is up. It's important to have good map awareness for obvious reasons.
Having a Blyatcyka on a team with her is hilarious.
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