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Dota 2 |OT7| What the fuck have they done

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shira

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OMG Stayfree sniper, sf, pudge

INTERSTELLAR HYPE

4 MORE DAYS BOYS

2 days 4 reel

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BHK3

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So far I'm in this really weird point in mmr where I have A LOT of ragers. Like the past 5 games have been 2-3 people on mic screaming and peoples sexuality and mmr being brought up nonstop. Then I have a few games where there's a few 5K people yet they were the worst...

I was solo bot as ogre against ES and Sniper and they just didn't even acknowledge me. I first blooded ES and almost double killed them at one point till Doom came and helped secure a kill on me. Sniper then raged and fed 50 couriers and sold all his items after they lost a early teamfight...past few games have been quick gg calls, very boring.
 

Hylian7

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So far I'm in this really weird point in mmr where I have A LOT of ragers. Like the past 5 games have been 2-3 people on mic screaming and peoples sexuality and mmr being brought up nonstop. Then I have a few games where there's a few 5K people yet they were the worst...

I was solo bot as ogre against ES and Sniper and they just didn't even acknowledge me. I first blooded ES and almost double killed them at one point till Doom came and helped secure a kill on me. Sniper then raged and fed 50 couriers and sold all his items after they lost a early teamfight...past few games have been quick gg calls, very boring.

That MMR variance is HUGE jesus, that's almost 1k MMR variance in that match.
 

Hylian7

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Another case of "It made us lose a game we had the advantage in at one point, so it's rat doto." syndrome.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1000724128

FINALLY got my DP game done after my attempt before this one was thwarted by my team's sniper who was having a bad game, and abandoned after 10 minutes, despite the rest of our team doing alright.
 

inkls

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Another case of "It made us lose a game we had the advantage in at one point, so it's rat doto." syndrome.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1000724128

FINALLY got my DP game done after my attempt before this one was thwarted by my team's sniper who was having a bad game, and abandoned after 10 minutes, despite the rest of our team doing alright.

I love it.


But how did you have trouble with dp tho? Shes not really a hard hero tbh.
 

Hylian7

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I love it.


But how did you have trouble with dp tho? Shes not really a hard hero tbh.

Just hard games.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/998537567 - Witch Doctor doesn't want to help with support, and goes straight up brown boots > Dagon
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/998616951 - I don't remember wtf happened here but it was awful
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/998703235 - The Techies Effect (TM)
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1000479597 - Sniper having a rough day, abandons about 10 minutes in, we could have still won this one too even with him not doing so well.
 

BHK3

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Just hard games.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/998537567 - Witch Doctor doesn't want to help with support, and goes straight up brown boots > Dagon
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/998616951 - I don't remember wtf happened here but it was awful
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/998703235 - The Techies Effect (TM)
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1000479597 - Sniper having a rough day, abandons about 10 minutes in, we could have still won this one too even with him not doing so well.

I dont get it with techies, people see him and just want to throw. He actually contributes a lot more than someone like meepo, so why panic? Just having suicide alone makes him a good hero imo, I had a game a few days ago where some raged at my techies NON STOP the whole game. Just cause he first picked him...
 

Hylian7

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I dont get it with techies, people see him and just want to throw. He actually contributes a lot more than someone like meepo, so why panic? Just having suicide alone makes him a good hero imo, I had a game a few days ago where some raged at my techies NON STOP the whole game. Just cause he first picked him...

I know he's a good hero, I don't disagree with you there. And this one was doing stuff early game, then he just fell off, hard, into uselessness so were effectively 4v5.
 

Quesa

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I know he's a good hero, I don't disagree with you there. And this one was doing stuff early game, then he just fell off, hard, into uselessness so were effectively 4v5.

Techies is effective the entire game. Mine clusters are consistently a threat if you don't just plant them in obvious places.
 
I'm really surprised Riki hasn't seen more play. New invis makes him surprisingly sustainable and Blink Strike is imba. The flip side to that is 75% win rate. Also, Kunkka confirmed for Garbage Tier.
 
http://twitter.com/LDdota/status/529158548815892480

Shots fired.

I'm really surprised Riki hasn't seen more play. New invis makes him surprisingly sustainable and Blink Strike is imba. The flip side to that is 75% win rate. Also, Kunkka confirmed for Garbage Tier.
Rikki's design is built around taking advantage of underinformed or newer players. He does nothing that works that well against good players. Or nothing someone else doesn't do better like Slark.
 
I'm really surprised Riki hasn't seen more play. New invis makes him surprisingly sustainable and Blink Strike is imba. The flip side to that is 75% win rate. Also, Kunkka confirmed for Garbage Tier.

He just feels like a worse Clinkz to me, even though his rework made him a bit stronger. He's just more reliant on enemy incompetence than any of the other invis heroes. Having a long phase time on permanent invis is way worse than having a triggered invisibility for laning purposes, and I don't think going invis and soaking exp is a viable way to play him since he absolutely needs diffusal blade to be useful, but his starting health is low enough that lane harassment is a huge issue even if he doesn't get ganked.

Riki needs farm but has no flash farming capability if he falls behind, and although he can easily kill unprepared heroes wandering in the woods he's pretty useless in a teamfight unless the rest of your team can soak up the disables.
 

Anbokr

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riki's rework was great and all, but icefrog nerfed far too much in exchange for the buffs the hero got.

Give him back his +10 MS and some of his base damage. He's just way too fucking slow and his base damage is abysmal. If the enemy has sents (which they always should have), the hero is just complete trash in lane--more trash than he used to be, and he wasn't the best laner to begin with but at least he used to have some presence so that's saying something.
 

Acinixys

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So Russian players are swarming low population servers to try exploit the item drop system by trying to extend games to 3 hours+ for arcana drops

Clearly it doesnt work like that

So im having 2 sit through multiple abandons and super easy stomps because every game is 5 stack of Russians with 300+ ping vs me

Pretty lame
 
Alright, down 500 mmr in this patch exclusively playing earth spirit. The pull nerf along with how late all the games go have really hurt him.

Time to join the 4 other members of my team and only pick late game carries.
 

Pratfall

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What do people think about mid beastmaster? Do you think rushing mek/necro or blink/aghs is stronger? I really love the hero but I am having a hard time figuring out exactly how to utilize him.
 

Razzer

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What do people think about mid beastmaster? Do you think rushing mek/necro or blink/aghs is stronger? I really love the hero but I am having a hard time figuring out exactly how to utilize him.

Well I imagine it depends, no? If you don't have any other good mek carriers and want to fight early, then yeah get that. If you need to mana burn someone or push then necro is great. If you have noone else who can jump in get blink, and if you want more general fighting ability aghs. BM is one of those heroes that can go very different builds every other game.
 

Demoli

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What do people think about mid beastmaster? Do you think rushing mek/necro or blink/aghs is stronger? I really love the hero but I am having a hard time figuring out exactly how to utilize him.

I've always liked him better in the offlane, specially on the dire side due to ancients. even if the lane goes bad you have that stack to fall back on.
 

manfestival

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Alright, down 500 mmr in this patch exclusively playing earth spirit. The pull nerf along with how late all the games go have really hurt him.

Time to join the 4 other members of my team and only pick late game carries.

seems like pub games can only be won by going 4 carry meta
 

Pratfall

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I feel like the mama cost change to Mek really hurts all non Int heroes who might buy one.

This is kinda what I feel like with BM. The mana cost on roar and wild axes means I am generally struggling with mana a bit and going mek seems risky. I guess I just need to control the runes in the offlane and rush a bottle?
 

bbd23

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THAT FUCKING RELOAD IN THE MITH/JOHNNY GAME ALMOST COST ME MY DAMN ITEMS

BKB'S RESET TO A FULL 10? VOLVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hylian7

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Did Storm Spirit in just one game last night for my AHC.

Is it just me or did it feel a crapload easier to be more aggressive early on. Like, I was against a Doom and STILL didn't feel super scared of him like I used to. I also felt like I actually had mana for zip outs after zipping in for a kill.
 
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