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DOTA 2 |OT9| League of Ancients (6.84)

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Drkirby

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How can Tide be on any worst hero list? You are crazy milk, crazy!
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G.ZZZ

Member
did the last patch or something mess up auto attacking

its behaving different after a creep death

maybe i accidentally switched something in settings

I think it's bugged. Sometimes my hero just stop autos and it messes my cs because i rely a lot on autos to cs. It's terrible.
 

kionedrik

Member
Is there any consensus on the best way to itemize PL?

If all goes well, by min 20-25 I have Treads - RoA - Diffusal - Manta/Skadi + Yasha, sometimes I put a Bottle in there somewhere, but he just feels so weak and squishy...

Should I avoid fighting and just split-push or shall I replace te Skadi with HoT?
 
Is there any consensus on the best way to itemize PL?

If all goes well, by min 20-25 I have Treads - RoA - Diffusal - Manta/Skadi + Yasha, sometimes I put a Bottle in there somewhere, but he just feels so weak and squishy...

Should I avoid fighting and just split-push or shall I replace te Skadi with HoT?
Consider fast vlads.

Treads --> Aquila --> Vlads --> Diffusal --> Manta --> Diffusal 2 --> Heart --> Travels --> damage item/butter --> butter/damage item

Slide a BKB in there if the situation demands it.
 

kionedrik

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Consider fast vlads.

Treads --> Aquila --> Vlads --> Diffusal --> Manta --> Diffusal 2 --> Heart --> Travels --> damage item/butter --> butter/damage item

Slide a BKB in there if the situation demands it.

I thought about vlads but I decided against it because you don't really get a huge benefit from it since your illusions die/time-out so fast, but I'll try it out (upgrade basi to it instead of going full RoA) next time I've the chance to play him.

I've been getting skadi instead of going for diffusal 2 because the slow means you don't really have to spend a lot of changes to lockdown your targets, hence saving the need to buy an extra 8, plus the tanking you get from it is nice. Perhaps Skadi + Vlads might work well.

Ty for the suggestion.
 

inkls

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I like satanic lategame instead of heart on pl now. My reasoning behind it is that you don't need your illusions to be tanky but rather you want yourself to be always near 100% with how often you spawn illusions during fights.

also esp now since diffusal is no longer a uam.

Thoughts?
 
On an absolutely horrendous run at the moment, 1 win in 14 games. Feel like I've been shoved up about 1000mmr, and my teammates have become worse if anything.

Had a Silencer throw a game yesterday because he thought Lion was stealing his kills. We were probably going to win as well before he threw his toys out the pram.

Keep having games as well where my teammates either don't connect until the match is 5 or so minutes in, or they don't call a lane until the match has begun, so the lane setup is a mess and everyone runs around like a headless chicken.

And lone heroes going for runes without an escort, so they get caught 3-on-1 and die in the first minute. I don't understand :(

Then I get frustrated, and it leads to me doing something silly and dying unnecessarily
 

TommyT

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Do you not have it set to show past broadcasts? Would be fun to watch while at work of the previous nights games.

edit: I just saw you posted your VOD. Some audio muted... noooooo :(
edit2: haha I see it was for our push game. Did you benny hill it or something?

5 man deathball so close to working :(

Lesh landing that stun in the river might have turned it

Indeed it was. As soon as I got to the point where 'S' wouldn't stop it and saw they had 3 clumped I knew it was over. I FAILED MY YOLO SUMMER DRAFT. SORRY MILK!
 
Another loss :(

Ended up swapping base-pushes 2 or 3 times, and it came down to who between myself and Huskar could end up more fed, and Huskar won

I've never played with or against a good Dark Seer.
 
On an absolutely horrendous run at the moment, 1 win in 14 games. Feel like I've been shoved up about 1000mmr, and my teammates have become worse if anything.

Had a Silencer throw a game yesterday because he thought Lion was stealing his kills. We were probably going to win as well before he threw his toys out the pram.

Keep having games as well where my teammates either don't connect until the match is 5 or so minutes in, or they don't call a lane until the match has begun, so the lane setup is a mess and everyone runs around like a headless chicken.

And lone heroes going for runes without an escort, so they get caught 3-on-1 and die in the first minute. I don't understand :(

Then I get frustrated, and it leads to me doing something silly and dying unnecessarily

I'm with you I took a 3 month break and I come back and I cant do shit in this current meta.
I've got like 2 wins in my last 12 games.

Whats up with Axe in every damn game now.
 

G.ZZZ

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I'm with you I took a 3 month break and I come back and I cant do shit in this current meta.
I've got like 2 wins in my last 12 games.

Whats up with Axe in every damn game now.

Axe give you a lot of flexibility in picks. I'd always fp him, not sniper or Tide or whoever. If radiant go triple ranged shit or whatever, you get a proper offlane and put axe into jungle and make him roam early (don't wait for blink, 1 level hunger at lvl 2 is huge for helping ganks and lanes, and level 2 hunger is a sure kill) . Those 2 ranged supports will be food for axe later on.
 

Calidor

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top 3 worse heroes

1. alchemist
2. husk*
3. tidehunter

Have you seen BananaSlamJamma Husk? Crazy


I think Huskar is near unstoppable if picked against the right composition (non physical damage dealers). Unfortunately pubs are currently infested with Trolls, Juggs and Snipers pickers
 

Demoli

Member
hes right though. alchemist has fallen so hard, but man, is he still a beast late game.

That's the thing, He isn't. Any carry will outcarry an Alchemist late game, without fail. His niche is to get there faster than the others.

His current problem is that he needs too many items and then doesn't do enough with them.

He needs HP, Armour, Attack Speed AND damage. Considering boots, you have 5 effective slots, and most alchemist will want any variation of Heart, Mjolnir, AC, Abyssal and BKB. That leaves you with one slot. Hero has Evasion? either sacrifice BKB slot or you're out of luck. Want a UAM? Same thing.

I think he is like the only Carry without a proper steroid, even something like ember gains some damage on Sleigh and has proper manouverability on item slots.

Alch is a waste of a hero atm.
 

Drkirby

Corporate Apologist
I hope one day Valve makes a Sniper Riffle that actually make Sniper do a 360 as he is firing his ult. Maybe make the recoil cause sniper to 360.
 
Axe give you a lot of flexibility in picks. I'd always fp him, not sniper or Tide or whoever. If radiant go triple ranged shit or whatever, you get a proper offlane and put axe into jungle and make him roam early (don't wait for blink, 1 level hunger at lvl 2 is huge for helping ganks and lanes, and level 2 hunger is a sure kill) . Those 2 ranged supports will be food for axe later on.

Hmm I might give this a go tonight, sounds fun.
 

Drkirby

Corporate Apologist
Ifraud plz make assassinate a skillshot.

Assassinate, 3000 range, 200 radius AoE, 1 sec cast time, same projectile speed, 350/500/650 damage, 15/10/5 seconds cd. Only castable on ground.
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Assassinate now uses a charge based system, mana cost lowered to 50/75/100 per shot.
 

TommyT

Member
"Using Assassinate causes massive recoil and Sniper temporarily loses his extended range and headshot for a brief period."
 

twobear

sputum-flecked apoplexy
when your elder titan takes safe lane and tells spectre to go offlane and when you ask them to swap the elder titan tells you to 'shut up pussy i called safe lane'

just dota 2 things
 

Acinixys

Member
I think he is like the only Carry without a proper steroid, even something like ember gains some damage on Sleigh and has proper manouverability on item slots.

Alch is a waste of a hero atm.

They should honestly give him back his HP gain with ult. His huge HP pool when ulted offset his honestly shitty skillset
 
what if alch ult was a global and instantly destroyed any building that didn't have backdoor protection

also it costs 8000/9000/10000 gold

180/120/60 cd

this may be the dumbest idea ever

sounds like something out of hots
 

Hupsel

Member
what if alch ult was a global and instantly destroyed any building that didn't have backdoor protection

also it costs 8000/9000/10000 gold

180/120/60 cd

this may be the dumbest idea ever

sounds like something out of hots

Need lore reasons why a damn gnome on top of a ogre would destroy building with one click and some gold. Dota doesnt do anything without respecting the lore.
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