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[Dreams-Visions]

Do you get lifesteal on Medusa? I always think something like rapier and satanic = unkillable.

I almost always get lifesteal. Think killing a Medusa with a Skadi + Manta + Bfly is a tall task? Try killing one with a Daed/MKB and a Satanic. After the herculean accomplishment that is dropping her mana shield down, she'll still have another 5,000hp effective from Satanic lifesteal during the course of the fight + Satanic active.

She basically becomes Roshan but hits harder. I haven't really played Medusa in what feels like ages, but yea...Satanic was always my 4th core item purchase.

Manta -> Bfly -> Damage item of your choice -> Satanic -> Skadi -> Travels

Used to be my old build. Haven't built her like that in quite awhile. Now maybe I'd reverse the locations of Skadi and Bfly since MKB is such a common purchase after than PA arcana event. Fitting in a BKB as needed, of course (preferably not at all).

But yea, Satanic in pubs makes a lot of sense because Dom Helm still makes a lot of sense.

1.) It lets her farm the jungle without using mana shield (so she's always at 100% hp and mana if she needs to tp in for a fight),

2.) It lets her stack ancients without relying on a teammate (and you can never rely on a teammate to do that for you in pubs)

3.) It gives her added survivability in the early and midgame fights, not just thanks to the lifesteal but the big +armor buff that comes from Dom Helm. It scales well with her mana shield. Satanic is one of my favorite item purchases on Dusa.

My highest GPM games on my 2 accounts, for reference sake:

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/258450546

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/229817719

 

[Pratfall]

been watching bananaslamjamma play pl on stream and he has started to get satanic instead of skadi. he says it is much better for fighting.

 

[Shuggananas]

been watching bananaslamjamma play pl on stream and he has started to get satanic instead of skadi. he says it is much better for fighting.

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basi/aquila treads yasha diffu manta skadi satanic bfly
I think skadi first is more useful because of the slow, satanic later when you need a bit more tank and hp regen to withstand longer fights

 

[Pratfall]

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basi/aquila treads yasha diffu manta skadi satanic bfly
I think skadi first is more useful because of the slow, satanic later when you need a bit more tank and hp regen to withstand longer fights

his final 6 slots is usually bots, diffusal, butterfly, satanic, manta, abyssal. and he goes HoD early for sustain.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

his final 6 slots is usually bots, diffusal, butterfly, satanic, manta, abyssal. and he goes HoD early for sustain.

Would you happen to have his Dotabuff handy? I have a friend who loves PL and would watch his replays.

edit: nm, found it http://www.dotabuff.com/players/105178768

 

[Pratfall]

Would you happen to have his Dotabuff handy? I have a friend who loves PL and would watch his replays.

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/105178768

 

[Dreams-Visions]

TY

 

[Shuggananas]

his final 6 slots is usually bots, diffusal, butterfly, satanic, manta, abyssal. and he goes HoD early for sustain.

So he's got absolutely no slow.
Meh I don't know, I really like skadi on melee carries just so that you don't get kited as fuck. Yeah there's abyssal but you only use that once per fight.

edit : diffusal has charges and a cooldown though, I easily run out of the 16 charges very quickly

 

[Pratfall]

So he's got absolutely no slow.
Meh I don't know, I really like skadi on melee carries just so that you don't get kited as fuck. Yeah there's abyssal but you only use that once per fight.

hes got diffusal

also doppleganger plus phantom rush is great for not getting kited.

After liking Banana's style of calmly talking through his decision-making quite a bit, I've stopped watching because he gets too salty and frustrated with his 4k/5k teammates for my liking.

That's no fun.

Totally, it is the hardest thing about watching his stream, but honestly, sing is too clowny to learn much from, merlini isnt streaming and is much more of a mid player than a 1 position player. I am trying to improve my 1 position play so he is the most analytical and informative thing out there at the moment.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

hes got diffusal

yea Diffusal plus the Rush passive should be pretty good unless you're really up against a high-mobility team.

 

[Haunted]

After liking Banana's style of calmly talking through his decision-making quite a bit, I've stopped watching because he gets too salty and frustrated with his 4k/5k teammates for my liking.

That's no fun.

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

Totally, it is the hardest thing about watching his stream, but honestly, sing is too clowny to learn much from, merlini isnt streaming and is much more of a mid player than a 1 position player. I am trying to improve my 1 position play so he is the most analytical and informative thing out there at the moment.

S4 is also great for this, but he mostly plays mid. Though he also talks about what his teammates should be doing.

 

[shira]

its gonna be middle school kickball all over again

http://zippy.gfycat.com/UnpleasantThunderousIndochinesetiger.webm
edit: whoah new gfycat interface

 

[SteveWinwood]

After liking Banana's style of calmly talking through his decision-making quite a bit, I've stopped watching because he gets too salty and frustrated with his 4k/5k teammates for my liking.

That's no fun.

yeah I watched like half an hour of his stream once after all the praise he was getting here and i just didn't get it

it was just this guy getting mad without any humor attached ala sing or rtz

its not so much that he's dry... its that he's boring

 

[Chris R]

After liking Banana's style of calmly talking through his decision-making quite a bit, I've stopped watching because he gets too salty and frustrated with his 4k/5k teammates for my liking.

That's no fun.

The amount of sodium produced last night when he was playing a techies was legendary.

At least he built LC how I like to see it, with no blademail.

 

[TUSR]

My favourite LC is one that doesn't get picked.

 

[SteveWinwood]

DUH DUH DUUHHHH

 

[Pratfall]

My favourite LC is one that doesn't get picked.

but you have that beautiful arcana tusr

 

[Shuggananas]

The amount of sodium produced last night when he was playing a techies was legendary.

At least he built LC how I like to see it, with no blademail.

But blademail is fucking great. Makes the enemy carry actually afraid of you.

 

[Chris R]

But blademail is fucking great. Makes the enemy carry actually afraid of you.

Eh, he did pretty damn good for no blademail. Had something like ~100 duel damage by 16 minutes and just kept winning when his team didn't just leave him alone.

 

[Shuggananas]

Eh, he did pretty damn good for no blademail. Had something like ~100 duel damage by 16 minutes and just kept winning when his team didn't just leave him alone.

Yes blademail isn't mandatory when you're snowballing as LC (100 damage by 16 is hardcore snowballing), but it's a very good value item in most cases (return damage is pure, MoC + PtA means you can withstand a carry with more farm than you)

 

[shira]

DUH DUH DUUHHHH

I hope you don't get DDoS

 

[inkls]

nah, people too busy ddos'ing na'vi vs hr game right now. No way to also ddos this right? right?

 

[SteveWinwood]

ARE BODIES RDY

 

[Tobe]

well it seems ill be traveling to TI5 alone this year, anybody wants to share a hotel room or something? might want to start doing the preparations now.

 

[kvk1]

they're literally thinking about pausing the game 30-40 minutes for xboct to drive himself to a PC cafe to resume the match

how is this still happening

 

[SteveWinwood]

general reminders

ticketmaster freaks the fuck out if you have more than one tab of it open

it might open up like a minute early be ready

have an account created with your payment info entered

a little late for this but whatever

 

[TUSR]

Steve you wanna fight at TI5?

 

[twobear]

honestly they should just play all of the games in secret and then broadcast them later

the DDOS thing is insane and completely out of hand

 

[Chris R]

ez katkz tickets

 

[Hazaro]

are you fucking kidding me

 

[JambiBum]

Giff tickets

 

[Bilix]

fuck they all sold out before the page loaded!

 

[Artanisix]

sitting here in a queue

 

[mastershake]

Searching for tickets...
We are experiencing higher traffic than usual. Your wait time is less than 8 minutes.

 

[SteveWinwood]

that was like so much easier for me than last year on my shitty work computer

last year i sat there refreshing the page for 20 mins

 

[CharpyImpact]

I think it sold out in 10 seconds.

 

[TUSR]

James!

 

[DrPizza]

ffs, all sold out before the page even fucking loaded.

 

[Chris R]

How did people not get tickets again? WTF

Though I had to pick "will call"... I had no option for mail delivery

edit: did anyone get an option for mail delivery? Or is everyone stuck with will call? 'murica folk only plz

 

[SteveWinwood]

Steve you wanna fight at TI5?

yes

ffs, all sold out before the page even fucking loaded.

are you sure? keep trying some will be released as people dont fill out the pages fast enough and there are probably a lot of those people who are just trying to decide whether to go or not

 

[Hazaro]

I'm fucking clicking this shit the same time Hylian is, I should have refreshed when he was 3 seconds ahead of me, for fucks sake.

 

[Emerson]

Those sold out literally fucking instantly.

 

[arab]

WHY DID IT SELL OUT WITHIN THE FIRST TIME I GOT THE PAGE

 

[DrPizza]

We are experiencing higher traffic than usual. Your wait time is approximately 45 minutes or more.

@_@

 

[SteveWinwood]

WHY DID IT SELL OUT WITHIN THE FIRST TIME I GOT THE PAGE

fuckkkk arab you need to goooo

maybe the euros dont want to go as badly

 

[Tobe]

this is some bullshit

 

[aeolist]

remember when c9 being awful was kind of a joke because most of the time they were pretty good and they just managed to throw when it really mattered?

not so much of a joke anymore

 

[arab]

fuckkkk arab you need to goooo

maybe the euros dont want to go as badly

oh I AM GOING

 

[CharpyImpact]

There is always round 2 in 12 hours!