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DOTA 2 |OT9| League of Ancients (6.84)
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Gentle Rodriguez
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I'd say OC in most cases, it turns a lot of heroes into monsters.
I'd like it if the greaves healed more than 250 hp, by the time you can get them that heal drops off pretty hard. 350hp would be nice.
magic burst, everyone get dagon
Why is it "broken"? Its pretty much the same as blademail "dont attack me with this on" except you can still rightclick or use aoe spells on the target. Buff doesn't last that long, so most initiators with single target spells will be fine.
Hard for me to call 5k gold items like octarine broken considering the cost. At least the cd reduction doesn't stack so its not hard recalculating long cd ability cooldowns.
also it gives spell heal from spells, not whether they're magic or physical.
I'm interested in how people pick silver edge esp with the break mechanic that can't miss, essentially means you can kill a PA with it easily wihout mkb, and that glimmer cape item. Any thought on heroes it will work well with? I was thinking, WD, Pudge with rot on after ult (or during ult), sniper?, bristleback, bane.
Hard for me to call 5k gold items like octarine broken considering the cost. At least the cd reduction doesn't stack so its not hard recalculating long cd ability cooldowns.
also it gives spell heal from spells, not whether they're magic or physical.
I'm interested in how people pick silver edge esp with the break mechanic that can't miss, essentially means you can kill a PA with it easily wihout mkb, and that glimmer cape item. Any thought on heroes it will work well with? I was thinking, WD, Pudge with rot on after ult (or during ult), sniper?, bristleback, bane.
And void still has a 25% to dodge all that damage...
NormalFish
Banned
She'll have the gold on this patch.
yeah, this makes more sense.
Figure every team needs a deso though since it's so cheap now. Wonder how frequently supports will grab it just so the carries can buy skadi or whatever the fuck.
Assuming they keep the interactions with spellsteal the way they are, I could see Lotus Orb being pretty damn broken.
As for Octarine Core, I know it's an expensive item, but the spell lifesteal from it is HUGE for heroes like Leshrac, Storm, Timbersaw, etc.
I didn't think to test this though on my stream last night, do you still get the lifesteal from Overload damage?
glimmer cape is such a dope addition.
relatively cheap item with a .4 second fade time, but unlike shadow blade, you can continually reinvis during the 5 seconds the effect is active. Any heroes with a higher cast point for targetted abilities, or long wind ups for auto attacks will just cancel mid-movement. And even if you get hit by aoe magic damage, you barely get scratched.
relatively cheap item with a .4 second fade time, but unlike shadow blade, you can continually reinvis during the 5 seconds the effect is active. Any heroes with a higher cast point for targetted abilities, or long wind ups for auto attacks will just cancel mid-movement. And even if you get hit by aoe magic damage, you barely get scratched.
I tested it, you do :>
And then someone picks AA and your Octarine core is useless
Or you don't clump up against Leshrac and he can only spellvamp 150~ hp a second from two targets
Or you pick Nyx or Antimage and completely wreck their newfound mana pool now that Octarine Core gives you 700~ mana
Or you spend 4k gold on a BKB like you should have in the first place which renders their spellvamp worthless
Or you don't clump up against Leshrac and he can only spellvamp 150~ hp a second from two targets
Or you pick Nyx or Antimage and completely wreck their newfound mana pool now that Octarine Core gives you 700~ mana
Or you spend 4k gold on a BKB like you should have in the first place which renders their spellvamp worthless
Shuggananas
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BUT SPELL LIFESTEAL IS BROKEN WE LEEG NOW
Whelp, then it's core on Storm now!
And then someone picks AA and your Octarine core is useless
Or you don't clump up against Leshrac and he can only spellvamp 150~ hp a second from two targets
Or you pick Nyx or Antimage and completely wreck their newfound mana pool now that Octarine Core gives you 700~ mana
Or you spend 4k gold on a BKB like you should have in the first place which renders their spellvamp worthless
Or you pick Zeus and get Octarine core and can lifesteal whether the whole team is clumped or not.
Also you say that like heroes doing magic damage late game weren't a thing. BKB helps you in teamfights but it doesn't make them completely useless like you seem to think.
SilentRacoon
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Has anyone with the test client tried to see if the Wraiths spawned with Wraith King aghs can be prolonged by casting shallow grave on them?
SecretMoblin
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and it doesn't break channels!
supports got lots of goodies, I'm fine with that
greaves will win teamfights, bookmark this post
Shuggananas
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yes
probably not intended
it better with its 5300 gold cost
See my previous post.
cm will actually live the entire duration of her freezing field, god bless.
"Or you pick Zeus and get Octarine core and can lifesteal whether the whole team is clumped or not.
Also you say that like heroes doing magic damage late game weren't a thing. BKB helps you in teamfights but it doesn't make them completely useless like you seem to think."
That's one point of four that I made.
And I'm arguing that Oct core is not OP, not that Oct core is useless.
Also you say that like heroes doing magic damage late game weren't a thing. BKB helps you in teamfights but it doesn't make them completely useless like you seem to think."
That's one point of four that I made.
And I'm arguing that Oct core is not OP, not that Oct core is useless.
shira
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UPDATED - Valve announced that they have decided to hold the qualifiers of The International 5 during the last week of May 2015, to resolve the scheduling issues caused by the large amount of LAN events held in June 2015. The qualifiers no longer clash with DreamHack Summer.So 3 months until TI and I'm wondering when do the matches start to qualify etc? I'd like to pick a team and cheer them on from the start
Last week of May. It's pretty vague.
"Or you pick Zeus and get Octarine core and can lifesteal whether the whole team is clumped or not.
Also you say that like heroes doing magic damage late game weren't a thing. BKB helps you in teamfights but it doesn't make them completely useless like you seem to think."
That's one point of four that I made.
And I'm arguing that Oct core is not OP, not that Oct core is useless.
Fair enough, but I disagree that it's not OP, however it is hard to tell until we actually start seeing games with it.
There's one thing to consider though: BKBs are down to 5 seconds, and now your BKB is off CD. Depending on what has Octarine Core, you're in big trouble now.
SilentRacoon
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lol just watched it, no way that makes it to the release. I hope you can still extend their living time in the final release.
Or you pick Nyx or Antimage and completely wreck their newfound mana pool now that Octarine Core gives you 700~ mana
yo scrub, nyx mana burn is based on your int, not your mana pool
I'd get it pretty late imo. Its only +100% mana regen, not as good as bloodstone in that respect imo.
Because all you pick is sniper so you're so used to him trashing you that you see him much stronger than he actually is?
GregLombardi
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I am still making my way through this thread, but I have read enough of the notes and enough impressions to know that DOTA 2 is changed forever. Holy f'ing crap. I am literally shell shocked right now and I've been playing DOTA since the first mod.
he'll trash me even harder now that zip zap has more mana options.
SecretMoblin
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force staff and lotus orb is sooooo funny
urn isn't reflected thankfully
urn isn't reflected thankfully
Supermanisdead
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so play alchemist and farm my aghanim bitch
Shuggananas
Banned
5% of 50 is nothing anyway
zip zap has 15 mana cost activation +7% of max mana. and it costs 12mana+0.75% of max mana per 100 units. more mana just lowers the impact of the initial costs, more int items with poor regen isn't whats gonna make him zip zap more.
And then you get lotus and reflect it to him hue
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
That's not a spell you cast so I don't think so.
NormalFish
Banned
Right, makes sense, you still would get it from illusion Rip Tide though, right? Not that that makes it worth getting on her.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Or you spend 4k gold on a BKB like you should have in the first place which renders their spellvamp worthless
Hello my name is QoP, get rekt.
I saw someone on reddit saying radiance triggered the heal, but everyone assumed it was a bug
Probably was, unless Dagon does too...
A Sentient Keyboard
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Aside from the cd increase, I'm pretty sure it's a huge buff. Before you could counter it with detection, but now Oracle makes an ally completely untouchable and unstoppable. All you can do is run.
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