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DOTA 2 |OT9| League of Ancients (6.84)
- Thread starter Teknopathetic
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Hmm, do the zombies still count for Echo Slam and Overwhelming Odds?
shira
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I remember the good old days where zombies gave gold. Bristleback was so fun against Undying then.
Still, at least we have spiders.
I assume so, they count for Elder Titan damage.
Still, at least we have spiders.
I assume so, they count for Elder Titan damage.
In those same days Tinker March was "composite" damage, meaning it would kill the zombies. Instant gold and XP, and Undying was now a liability.
With the increase in physical/pure damage spells, Undying and Visage both had a hard time not simply feeding their summons. Axe was top tier pick last patch, and so was Bristle. QoP also returned to the scene with her pure damage ult, which could clear all the zombies and birds at the same time.
And what tobear said. Undying is godly for pre-6 dives, but that wasn't really worthwhile in 6.83.
We're stuck in OT hell.
And what tobear said. Undying is godly for pre-6 dives, but that wasn't really worthwhile in 6.83.
We're stuck in OT hell.
Gentle Rodriguez
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That hilarious relocate
"I have aegis nothing bad can happen"
"I have aegis nothing bad can happen"
that breathe fire doe.
Yeah that was dumb as hell. It left the Undying super vulnerable, and let them set up for the return. Even best-case it means trading an Undying for a Visage, and that's not worth it unless you can kill the birds.
Silver Edge damage reduction + Breathe Fire damage reduction = literally no damage.
Schweinehund
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Alchemist was stupid dumb against old zombies.
SteveWinwood
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i can make the ot guys
etc
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I like that we're talking about how OP Undying is in this patch while Artstyle is simultaneously getting absolutely rekt on the hero (3-11-8).
That is because Artstyle is drunk
The zombie change is really huge. It makes it harder to counter with stuff like Axe/Bristleback. It's like the cast point change on Gyro, it pushed him from being "good" to "great".
A lot of heroes in DOTA 2 are on the cusp of being top picks if they got that one or two bufffs.
And Visage is the same... the change to his Familiars requiring actual attacks makes him as strong as Undying in this patch.
Then you have to consider the item changes and additions like Solar Crest and Guardian Greeves which are great on these heroes. It's similar to why Dragon Knight is back in full force, the buff to his Dragon Breath was huge and Silver Edge is great on him. He was already a very good hero that just got better.
Monochromaticx
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Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Oh my god this 5 fps Alliance game
manfestival
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This is a mango only zone. Only mangos are allowed to talk.
Just trying to roll with the times my friend.
Official Thread.
Imp the Dimp
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Shuggananas banned?
Can someone explain Shiva's guard to me
It's always felt like a C-Tier item that isn't really core on anyone but is situational if they have lots of right click? Right? Always felt like it lacked a certain oomph.
Shame. He always had the most insightful things to say, like "This message is hidden because Shuggananas is on your ignore list."
It's always felt like a C-Tier item that isn't really core on anyone but is situational if they have lots of right click? Right? Always felt like it lacked a certain oomph.
Shame. He always had the most insightful things to say, like "This message is hidden because Shuggananas is on your ignore list."
PHOENIX
Shiva is broken u all bads.
Visage is also broken, but at least it doesn't infest my pubs because micro and it's a decently interesting hero to watch even if i dislike him personally.
Undying always won u lanes and early game, the problem before that was:
- winning lanes and the early game didn't mean much if you played late 4vs5 (und is a non-hero past 35 mins) because of comeback mechanic
and
- axe and bristle were good picks and both completely slaughtered undying in the midgame. QoP to a lesser extent.
Now that axe and bristle don't counter him anymore, and that losing early game mean losing the game in a vast majority of cases, Undying is retarded.
Yes, but it's far from C-tier. Just very situational like Halberd.
I don't really think there are C-tier items anymore. Just different shades of broad and narrow.
Except Veil. Veil is good on, like, one hero.
SteveWinwood
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veil is always good
i always rush it on
and it works for me
i always rush it on
People keep saying that, but what they have in mind (custom effect for each spell he steals) would be essentially pay to lose imo (unless only your team can see the effects) because you're telegraphing who casted it. Part of his strength during the chaos of fights is that element of surprise you get on the enemy because they don't realize its not one of their spells (ex: walking into rubick ice path, firefly, kunkka boat, Lesh ult, luna eclipse, and many invoker aoe spells like emp and meteor).
Also, don't let steve make the OT pls
Monochromaticx
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fine for me on twitch
Just a very strong overall teamfight item like vlads, AC, or Mek. It's especially good against melee champions, because it slows the entire enemy team (AS and MS), and deals aoe damage that interrupts blink dagger and the like.
Monochromaticx
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I don't want ultis to be green and shit like reddit are talking about. Valve can do some cool things with the staff, mask and the cape. They can also do some cool effect for Spell Steal
nooooo! how will i know when everyone except him is stupid?
Gentle Rodriguez
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Shivas active also gives really nice vision that you can scout with.
cant wait for the ld immortal! custom bear summon animation, root animatizzzzzzzzzz
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Even the bugs go Undying's way
Monochromaticx
Member
That zombie bug is ridiculous
veil is always good
i always rush it onand it works for me
Can you do the OP ? Those paint images were so
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