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DOTA2 |OT14| i give up like your pubs do
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I feel like this is a very important aspect when it comes to introducing someone to Dota. There is no perfect concoction of concepts to bring up when showing someone the game, it all depends on how competent they are in general, how quick they are on the uptake with learning new skills, how they learn under pressure, how their general video game skillz/hand-eye co-ordination is, etc.
You definitely could introduce someone to tread switching, pulling camps and stuff like that straight away for some people. For others you have to go over why concepts as basic as "here's why you should always have mana to spare" and "here's why you don't auto-attack creeps in lane."
I think you missed the memo on just how dead in the water E3 is at this point.
I'm dying
hahahaha
Not all, 50 mana can easily be the difference between a kill and not a kill, and the HP from strength can be the difference between surviving and not surviving, plus going Agility to use any kind of regen to get more out of it. Tread switching teaches the practical application of stats. You have other methods such as Morphling (not good for beginners) and Armlet (fine for beginners, but only particularly good on a portion of the hero pool, and not as common as Treads), but generally Treads will teach you the practical application of stats.
Like I just mentioned, Armlet is great too. I remember when I started playing, and played a natural Armlet carrier (Skeleton King I think) and got it, I read the description, saw the HP loss when I turn it on and immediately thought "So I only want to turn this on aggressively and then turn it off, if I am running away, it needs to be off." Clearly I overlooked the stats, since I was confused when I turned on that I gained a ton of health and lost a ton when I turned it off. I didn't understand Armlet toggling until I watched a video of it. Keep in mind this was back when the Strength from Armlet took effect all at once rather than incrementally like it is now.
misses bull
Banned
people who don't tread switch on slark are disgusting
Interceptor
Banned
what ..i dont....548 brood games?!
I am sorry. At least most of them are pretty short. ^^
You need a dedicated button to select all units, one for all units but your hero and one for your hero only, thats it. Buy a fast Orchid and have fun.
Control groups fulfill that purpose, and are saved on the cloud for each hero. For her, I use 1 for hero + all spiders, 2 for just spiders, and F1 (use this for all heroes) for just hero.
Oh, and when you have both spiderlings and spiderites, if you box them and make them a control group, it will make all future spiders part of that control group. You can also do units individually if you want, Visage can have the familiars on separate keys and one for all of them, and can stay that way.
this is good, this is real good
shira
Member
I couldn't find anyway last week, so I'm going with no. I'm assuming its an oversight, but who knows when/if it will get fixed.
I really hope this isn't the first sign of another Shanghai.
I wouldn't worry, it was a single cockroach on the hotel they are staying on, we're not there just yet
So what you're saying is that we can expect giant cockroaches to be the panelists then. Got it.
SecretMoblin
Member
? Tobiwan has been a confirmed caster for a while now bro
rakkadakka
Member
If you're in the tropics there will be bugs.
I see what you did there.jpg
Sums up the talent.
Anyone here gotten that Overwatch achievement for hitting a basketball into the goal?
I almost had it yesterday, then a friend barely tapped it midair and HE got the achievement.
One friend did it with Zarya, standing on the opposite side of the table, lining it up with the goal, and barely tapping it with left click.
I saw another gif of it being on the ground right in front of the goal and as Reaper, melee hit it and it bounced up and in.
I almost had it yesterday, then a friend barely tapped it midair and HE got the achievement.
One friend did it with Zarya, standing on the opposite side of the table, lining it up with the goal, and barely tapping it with left click.
I saw another gif of it being on the ground right in front of the goal and as Reaper, melee hit it and it bounced up and in.
okay this got me good
time for shield charge EleGiggle
Vincent Alexander
Member
What's the average game length of Dota 2? Played my first game the other day (usually play League of Legends) and it was 45. Felt pretty long, and wasn't sure if that is normal or not.
Usually primary attribute. Obviously you can't save mana by tread switching in cases like that, but you want the stats for the illusion so it's worth it. Same goes for stuff like Terrorblade images, Naga illusions, PL, etc.
45 minutes is pretty average. Depending on the strategies of either team, some may run short (<25) and some can go long (I have had a game get past the 90 minute mark). Generally I won't play unless I have at least an hour. The long games are pretty edge cases, but also the most intense ones.
shira
Member
I'd say 30-45 is average. But it can dip as low as 18 minutes and extend well past an hour during extreme circumstances
average pub game time is around 41-42 minutes these days (source)
in the past it was as low as 35 and as high as 45, but i like it at this 41 min mark (closest to 40 which is the sweet spot imo)
Wok
Member
It depends on the hero.
Take the best Techies:
Take the best Meepo:
For people who cannot finish games cleanly, 45 min is okayish. There are always these people farming jungle when you could take the throne.
savageeeeeeee
Vincent Alexander
Member
Ah. Thank you, all. I've launched Dota 2 at least 10+ times in my life, and have always been intimidated by the menu. I close out before I ever launch a game, but finally a few days ago I played my first game with a friend. We're huge LoL fans, but wanted to try something new. I'm definitely not a fan of the visuals overall in terms of the models and such, but I really loved some of the actual ability animations and sound effects. The game just felt long and I felt really overwhelmed. I want to stick with it though. By the end of the match, I was having a decent bit of fun.
Damn, wanted to check my predictions.
You'll find a lot more things are quite different from LoL, but if I have to narrow it down to a few things, here is what they would be:
1. Most heroes don't have "poke" spells. Many spells cost a good chunk of the mana pool early, so you have you be more selective about it.
2. Spells don't aggro the creeps or towers. You can freely cast spells at enemies and not take aggro. Only attacks take aggro. Also some heroes have an attack modifier that can be cast manually, or you can right click it to have it automatically applied to regular attacks. Using these manually does not aggro creeps or tower either, this technique is often referred to as "orb walking".
3. If you hold shift and left click an item from the shop, you can put it in the lower right (or left if you reversed minimap location). It shows all the pieces there required to make the item, and they light up in yellow when it can afford them. The ones with the red S on them require the secret shop.
Anyway good luck, and if you need help you can always ask around here.
NormalFish
Banned
Depends on the specific GPU. there are Nvidia GPUs that are just as bad.
Given where they are, cockroaches are inescapable.
They were frigging inescapable in Texas, too.
Junkiro daily hero challenge
Same.
I feel we could have won this game last night, if only someone had, y'know, picked a fucking carry.
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2404262902
SecretMoblin
Member
junkiro slays, aether and wind lace and veil and basically you are jesus christ, or at least one of the lesser prophets
just don't pick it against lifestealer or slark
just don't pick it against lifestealer or slark
So never pick it is what you're basically sayingjunkiro slays, aether and wind lace and veil and basically you are jesus christ, or at least one of the lesser prophets
just don't pick it against lifestealer or slark
SecretMoblin
Member
rip
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