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Dragon Age: Origins |OT| Letting The Fade fade out of memory
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Just watched the GT footage and I don't see anything to suggest the PS3 version won't hold up fine. I'd like to see more prolonged footage of the combat in the console version though, ideally played by someone that uses the pause system as I'll probably play it that way if it holds up.Snuggler said:
whatevermort
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Justinian said:
It wasn't irritating in KotOR; I can't see it being irritating here. If you're thrilled that you have the superior version, just be thrilled. Silently.
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whatevermort said:
There is to be no discussion on these forums for discussion!
Fredescu said:
One of the main benefits of isometric view is allowing you to select multiple characters at once to issue them the same command at once. A mouse makes this trivially easy with drag-select.
With the console gamepad control scheme having no way to select multiple characters at once (it can be done, but Bioware thought drag-select just isn't a good fit for a gamepad controller), you do indeed lose that main benefit of isometric.
Not that this was the reason consoles don't have isometric view, but Bioware do recognize that the console gameplay is more action oriented because with a gamepad it's so much more fiddly to do the strategy-like stuff possible with keyboard&mouse. It can be done, but being awkward means most people won't want to do it since they won't enjoy it.
I don't think the argument for isometric view should be made with several commands.
I think the better argument is made for positioning.
For the sake of argument: Both versions have a group of 4 tanks with shield and sword. And two bigger enemies.
Now it's easy for both versions to pause once, and select "Shield Bash" for every party member and splitting the targets in two.
What can't be done on the consoles however is getting two party members to flank the enemies at the same time. Because if you run, you always un-pause and the AI will take over the other characters. So you have to position one person to flank, and then the next.
The PC allows you to do that for both characters at the same time.
From this example you can conjure many more likely scenarios where simultaneous precision positioning is needed.
EDIT: The drag select thing is of course true, much faster to select all and auto-attack the first enemy on the screen. (You still need to individually select each party member for their skill attacks.)
I think the better argument is made for positioning.
For the sake of argument: Both versions have a group of 4 tanks with shield and sword. And two bigger enemies.
Now it's easy for both versions to pause once, and select "Shield Bash" for every party member and splitting the targets in two.
What can't be done on the consoles however is getting two party members to flank the enemies at the same time. Because if you run, you always un-pause and the AI will take over the other characters. So you have to position one person to flank, and then the next.
The PC allows you to do that for both characters at the same time.
From this example you can conjure many more likely scenarios where simultaneous precision positioning is needed.
EDIT: The drag select thing is of course true, much faster to select all and auto-attack the first enemy on the screen. (You still need to individually select each party member for their skill attacks.)
Himuro said:
CRPG reviews these days are typically laughable. Every time a CRPG hits I can find at least one major review where it's obvious that the reviewer didn't play more than a few clumsy hours, and tries to pass off his conclusions from the opening as holding true for the whole game.
Eurogamer's Risen review listed no fast travel as one of the game's major faults. You get teleports at the beginning of chapter 2. OOPS. They've since replaced this review, not because the original author was incompetent, but because they had inexplicably used the 360 port as the review platform.
The new one's not much (any?) better:
Dan Whitehead said:
A TWO YEAR OLD GAME HAS MORE NARRATIVE DEPTH? UNFATHOMABLE!
Protip: Torment, from 1999, has more narrative depth than any game ever. I guess that makes everything since then a failure. Moron.
Shake Appeal
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The new Oblivion! Heavens be praised!
A interesting article discussing sex in DA. Seems like the person discussing it actually has played the game, unlike some reviewers...
*warning* polygonal semi-nudity
http://bitmob.com/index.php/mobfeed/sex-and-the-single-dragon-age-hero.html
*warning* polygonal semi-nudity
http://bitmob.com/index.php/mobfeed/sex-and-the-single-dragon-age-hero.html
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Kosma said:
Computer Role-Playing Game (CRPG)
Shake Appeal
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It was originally used to draw a distinction between tabletop RPGs and computer simulations of them.markot said:
British Monsoon
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Himuro said:
Pretty much. I always cringe whenever I see that a mainsteam site has reviewed a shmup - without looking at the review I can estimate that it'll be getting a 6, the reviewer will complain about how the game can be completed in one sitting (lol, credit feeding), the reviewer will then bemoan the lack of replay value before finally criticising it for a lack of multiplayer features. I don't see the point of sending someone who has no understanding of the genre to do a review of a game you just know they aren't going properly understand, but sites like IGN & Eurogamer seem to have no qualms with this practice.
Shinjitsu said:
Look, I have not been back into serious pc gaming for a bit and some of the stuff I have played I met the recommended but did not hit 60 fps on 1920 x 1080 with high settings. So I was curious, because I want to get an upgraded graphics card and am thinking about the 5770 and 5850 and wanted to know how this would play when I get one of them.
That's an interesting article, not least for me because he's gone to a lot of trouble that I wouldn't have been bothered with. I am intrigued now as to the plot related incident around the party relationships.Justinian said:
I'll be playing a female elf mage though, so I have no idea what I'll be doing with my character in that respect.
TheUglyDrunk
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Jeez, the amount of PC vs. Console bashing hasn't gone down here I see.
All I want to know is, can I pick this game up at Best Buy tomorrow, or is tomorrow the shipping date?
All I want to know is, can I pick this game up at Best Buy tomorrow, or is tomorrow the shipping date?
Not to start a fire or anything, but JRPG's to me are more adventure games with role playing elements, as compared to say a typical D&D based cRPG that allows you to be pretty much any type of character you want, and that has a world that reacts to what type of character you are. See Baldur's Gate 2.
Steve Youngblood
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Many stores already have it in stock (some people have even reported their local Best Buy already selling it, which is obviously a 'YMMV' situation, as they shouldn't be doing that). So, you'll be able to buy it tomorrow.TheUglyDrunk said:
Minsc
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MotherFan said:
Both those cards (particularly the 5850) are above the recommended GPUs by a fair (or very large) margin. It should play absolutely flawlessly on either card, however if you wait another day or two to ask again, you can probably find a sure answer.
Good luck trying to find a 5850 though, they're in very short supply, as are just about all the 5-series cards, though the 58XX ones are the hardest to get.
whatevermort
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Doc Evils said:
Isn't MW2 out next week? It's next tuesday or something. Has the PS3 version been put back to then?
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I remember hearing CRPG from a very long time ago. Back in the day it pretty much meant "Western RPG" since all major western RPGs were PC games and never really started making it to the consoles until the Xbox.
It's disappointing that Warden's Keep only lasts for an hour or so:
http://daforums.bioware.com/viewtopic.html?topic=702105&forum=135
Bioware's marketing guys say that it should last a lot more than that but they also said the same thing about Mass Effect's Pinnacle Station so you can't really trust them.
http://daforums.bioware.com/viewtopic.html?topic=702105&forum=135
Bioware's marketing guys say that it should last a lot more than that but they also said the same thing about Mass Effect's Pinnacle Station so you can't really trust them.
whatevermort
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Doc Evils said:
Well, the PS3 version isn't delayed any more though. It's out on Friday as well. Only competition is Ratchet & Clank...
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Doc Evils said:
I'm still sad about the PC version of Assassin's Creed II getting pushed back.
whatevermort
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Jtyettis said:
Ah. I didn't know that. Well.
AnimatorZombie
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Gamefly just shipped my copy 
For those that preloaded on Steam how big was the file? I'm really hoping Impulse has their shit together and dl speeds are as excellent as they have been for other games on that service. I just saw it popped up on pirate sites and the file size is only about 7.7 gigs. which would be a lot better than the 16 gb number I've heard tossed around.