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[MatrixReloaded101]

Why is everyone so interested in the next major bomb all time. Gaming has turned into a weird thing.

"I think this will bomb." "Me too" "Me too." "Me too."

"Its gonna bomb" "Me too" Me too"

"I told you it was gonna" "me too" 'me too"

"Haha" "haha me too"

Because any signs of DEI in a game is a big trigger for nerds online now.

 

[SkylineRKR]

With good reviews and worth of mouth this game has potential to sell well, its an IP that used to have quite a devoted fanbase.

I hope its good actually. I hate the art direction but the gameplay does look a bit like melee Mass Effect, its not what I would've wanted out of DA but oh well.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Steam Search

store.steampowered.com

19th I think

Historically, is that good while being 5 days from release? I notice Wilds is ranked higher and that is months away. Even Ys: X is ranked higher. I'm happy for Y's, but that's not the point.

 

[Kokoloko85]

It's not a general thing - a desire for "the next major bomb." It's specific to this game. Some people want it to fail because they see it as woke. They want woke games punished by failure, so that companies steer away from wokery in the future. If you look at the games people are celebrating having bombed, it is usually connected to that animus.

Yep Im guessing its mostly this. Before it would be rival game fans who wants a game to fail at most. Or people who hate a certain developer etc.

I don't like woke shit myself but don't care whether this game succeeds or fails.

Same.
Ill try it and if I like the gameplay, Im in. Ive turned off so many tv series and movies Ive been a fan of because it was just too ridiculously woke.
But Caring about if games succeed or not, I cant be bothered. I get why people are passionate, but its boring online. Cancel culture on either side is just annoying at this point. People cant have an honest opinion a game, movie etc because of the side they politically believe

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Maybe more people than we think are interested in seeing how much DEI there's in there when the game releases and reviews start popping. Is there only one scoop of DEI, two scoop? Maybe just a sprinkle, so it's ok to buy..

Lol, tbh that's what I'm waiting to see and then I'll make a decision if I buy or not.

Couldn't give two shits about this game, but maybe the majority of gamers doesn't give two shits about DEI and Woke either.

 

[Kotaro]

Historically, is that good while being 5 days from release? I notice Wilds is ranked higher and that is months away. Even Ys: X is ranked higher. I'm happy for Y's, but that's not the point.

That's really bad for a major AAA game to rank that low 5 days before release

 

[Mister Wolf]

That's really bad for a major AAA game to rank that low 5 days before release

I expected as much.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Historically, is that good while being 5 days from release? I notice Wilds is ranked higher and that is months away. Even Ys: X is ranked higher. I'm happy for Y's, but that's not the point.

Its not very good given its a high profile game that probably cost a ton, though its not an absolute failure.

 

[simpatico]

Mighty kind of those fellas to bail out EA like that.

 

[analog_future]

Go woke or go broke!

 

[ergem]

Was this game touched by woke?

 

[Mister Wolf]

Was this game touched by woke?

It is Woke's avatar.

 

[Sw0pDiller]

That last launch trailer peaked my interest for the game. Will buy in sale. Thats more because i have a immense backlog and only buy my games digital.

 

[Kotaro]

Was this game touched by woke?

very woke

 

[Synless]

If the game sells well, I'm happy for them and those who enjoy it.

I however have zero interest in what they are selling this round so no buy from me.

 

[nicoGec]

I don't know what type of conspiracy theory you can get from this considering that he had a pretty glowing preview video and didn't get a code:

 

[vaibhavpisal]

If its a good single player game, i see no issue in it being successful.

 

[Jinxed]

Dont care about the sales, if it does well and people are happy with it, good for them.

I won't get it because of all the things already mentioned about this game but it's a free market and people should buy what they want. Not gonna call a boycott like a certain cringe group who wanted people to boycott Harry potter

 

[Madflavor]

We went through the same song and dance with Star Wars Outlaws and that flopped. Chart position means very little.

Stellar Blade was trending #1 on Amazon and the PSN store for quite awhile. I'm not implying Stellar Blade underperformed, it actually did great considering the circumstances, but the presales made some people believe that it was a going to be a 3-5 million seller in it's first month.

Its 20th-ish in the global steam top sellers. I don't think this game will bomb, but it probably won't be a hit either. I expect somewhere along the ballpark of 1-3 million sales in one month.

That's where I'm at too. At worst it'll have underwhelming sales, but at best I think it'll do fine.

 

[balls of snow]

Damn right. Da fanbase showed up.
Thats what loyalty looks like.

 

[Raven117]

I hope it's good. I'm a bit skeptical so won't be there day one, but I'd be thrilled for it to actually be good.

 

[BigBeauford]

Assuming there is a difference between preorders and overall charting.

 

[geary]

This game looks like a major bomb. Less than one week before release, it's still outside Top-10 Amazon ranking

Other major releases this year were in Top-10, 3-4 weeks before release date (Dragon Ball, Silent Hill 2, Space Marine, SW: Outlaws, which still turned out to be a flop)

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Yeah, because success is measured by physical sales....in 2024...when PS5 Pro comes without a disc and PC does not have physical....

 

[Edgelord79]

Some people want it to fail because they see it as woke.

I get that.

Also many want it to fail because this isn't fucking Dragon Age they know. It's something else and that's fine I guess . There is a history of head scratching decisions with this franchise that seems out of touch with the success of the original.

BioWare has proven to be a terrible studio since everyone has left. What reason is there to give them the benefit of the doubt this time?

 

[Ceadeus]

Couldn't give two shits about this game, but maybe the majority of gamers doesn't give two shits about DEI and Woke either.

The majority of Dragon Age players probably care about this new game though. Like why Inquisition generated a big hype back then but not Veilguard? At least to some extent. if it's not DEI, what else would it be?

 

[N0S]

 

[Madflavor]

Historically, is that good while being 5 days from release? I notice Wilds is ranked higher and that is months away. Even Ys: X is ranked higher. I'm happy for Y's, but that's not the point.

Unless this is going to be a case where there's an enormous disparity between Console and PC sales, it's not great.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

The majority of Dragon Age players probably care about this new game though. Like why Inquisition generated a big hype back then but not Veilguard? At least to some extent. if it's not DEI, what else would it be?

No idea, all I see is that it apparently is top pre-order on PSN in US and UK.

 

[Gonzito]

Can't stand this idiot

 

[Mobilemofo]

Looking forward to doing battle with the transgender dragon, Bryce.

 

[xenosys]

As someone else alluded to, it's not doing great in the Steam pre-order charts less than a week out from release. For a AAA title with some PR behind it, it should be doing better, but perhaps people are waiting to see what the reviews are like as Bioware games have been a bit hit and miss for a lot of people in recent years.

 

[March Climber]

It's not a general thing - a desire for "the next major bomb." It's specific to this game. Some people want it to fail because they see it as woke. They want woke games punished by failure, so that companies steer away from wokery in the future. If you look at the games people are celebrating having bombed, it is usually connected to that animus.

In theory the logic adds up. In practice, some good games have caught stray bullets and anti-marketing from that same crowd because they sensed something that either wasn't there or that they disagreed with, and the navigator of the ship, Grummz, is pointing that ire in many different directions.

Every movement always starts with good intentions but then the plot is slowly lost over time thanks to very loud, bad actors.

 

[Rush2112]

Condoms and toilet papers sell, too. Use brain plz.

 

[Mister Wolf]

In theory the logic adds up. In practice, some good games have caught stray bullets and anti-marketing from that same crowd because they sensed something that either wasn't there or that they disagreed with, and the navigator of the ship, Grummz, is pointing that ire in many different directions.

Every movement always starts with good intentions but then the plot is slowly lost over time thanks to very loud, bad actors.

And what games would that be?

 

[semiconscious]

Ill try it and if I like the gameplay, Im in. Ive turned off so many tv series and movies Ive been a fan of because it was just too ridiculously woke.
But Caring about if games succeed or not, I cant be bothered. I get why people are passionate, but its boring online. Cancel culture on either side is just annoying at this point. People cant have an honest opinion a game, movie etc because of the side they politically believe

yep. developers are free to go down the roads they go down, & consumers are free to follow along or not, & the marketplace will ultimately determine what worked or didn't work. best to simply make your own personal choices, & leave it at that...

 

[dottme]

Please, stop pre-ordering digital game. Just pre-order the day before release to download in advance, but that's all.
I've seen another forum calling for pre-ordering and I hate this.
Let see the review first at minimum. And I would say let see the initial feedback from early adopter.

This apply to Dragon Age but also to any other game

 

[March Climber]

And what games would that be?

Here's one: Prince of Persia Lost Crown

 

[BigBeauford]

Here's one: Prince of Persia Lost Crown

That's more of a pricing issue than anything.

 

[March Climber]

That's more of a pricing issue than anything.

Sure, but the Grummz army doing anti-marketing and people instantly writing it off as woke due to a haircut did zero favors.

 

[Davevil]

WTF ???

 

[Mister Wolf]

Here's one: Prince of Persia Lost Crown

Overpriced and not on Steam day one contributed greatly to its downfall. Not having a Persian looking main character and choosing to have the Killmonger haircut(Black man) was just the cherry on top. I'm black, March Climber. None of us wanted or needed the main character of a Prince Of "Persia" game to look like us. This might surprise you as well. None of us asked for Ariel from The Little Mermaid movie to be black neither.

 

[March Climber]

Overpriced and not on Steam day one contributed greatly to its downfall. Not having a Persian looking main character and choosing to have the Killmonger haircut(Black man) was just the cherry on top. I'm black, March Climber. None of us wanted or needed the main character of a Prince Of "Persia" game to look like us.

You guys…

You can't at the same time say 'We did it! The game failed!' For games such as Concord and then at the same time put your arms up and say 'well we had absolutely zero to do with this ' when games like PoP Lost Crown also fail. Selective credit taking is wild to do.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Here's one: Prince of Persia Lost Crown

Playing this currently. Game is pure .

Also, Sargon is great character.

Sequel getting denied is a travesty.

 

[Mister Wolf]

You guys…

You can't at the same time say 'We did it! The game failed!' For games such as Concord and then at the same time put your arms up and say 'well we had absolutely zero to do with this ' when games like PoP Lost Crown also fail. Selective credit taking is wild to do.

It's not a "We". What's the name of the organization or movement? It's customers that have no interest in the products being pushed. Do you really believe all the people that are dismissing these games be on the internet debating and discussing it like us? Most of them saw the product, said no, and kept it pushing lol.

 

[kikii]

chopsometits.com uwu

 

[March Climber]

It's not a "We". What's the name of the organization or movement? It's customers that have no interest in the products being pushed.

Don't do this weird backpedal. This is a movement against wokeness in games, bad DEI practices, SBI, and 'the message'. You guys say very similar talking points in almost every single thread. Just because there is no name attached to this yet doesn't mean it doesn't exist. What an odd rebuttal.

Do you really believe all the people that are dismissing these games be on the internet debating and discussing it like us?

It has ballooned into most social media and streaming/video sites. I understand that not everyone looks at social media yes, but you all have to either admit to this having actual impact or not. You can't have both.

This squirming is the problem and it would be much more respectable to say something like 'Yeah, a part was played in that, but that's what happens during a culture war, there will be some casualties along the way' or something to that regard.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Don't do this weird backpedal. This is a movement against wokeness in games, bad DEI practices, SBI, and 'the message'. You guys say very similar talking points in almost every single thread. Just because there is no name attached to this yet doesn't mean it doesn't exist. What an odd rebuttal.

It has ballooned into most social media and streaming/video sites. I understand that not everyone looks at social media yes, but you all have to either admit to this having actual impact or not. You can't have both.

This squirming is the problem and it would be much more respectable to say something like 'Yeah, a part was played in that, but that's what happens during a culture war, there will be some casualties along the way' or something to that regard.

Sure. Us men(The Movement aka The Primary Customer For The Entire History Of Videogames) have decided we don't like what they're pushing. They can either fall in line or get left behind. Some properties like Spiderman can get away with it due to brand loyalty. Most cannot. Star Wars couldn't. We are going to find out where Dragon Age stands. Should be entertaining for this forum.

 

[Senua]

I've seen nothing from the footage that's enticed me, I dno. Looks void of anything that made the first game so great.

 

[March Climber]

Sure. Us men(The Movement aka The Primary Customer) have decided we don't like what they're pushing. They can either fall in line or get left behind. Some properties like Spiderman can get away with it due to brand loyalty. Most cannot. Star Wars couldn't. We are going to find out where Dragon Age stands. Should be entertaining for this forum.

Cheeky first part, but overall I'm glad this was your response. I was worried you were going to double down or flop about, like some other posters here who don't want to own up to anything. You're more respectable than they will ever be.

 

[Humdinger]

In theory the logic adds up. In practice, some good games have caught stray bullets and anti-marketing from that same crowd because they sensed something that either wasn't there or that they disagreed with, and the navigator of the ship, Grummz, is pointing that ire in many different directions.

Every movement always starts with good intentions but then the plot is slowly lost over time thanks to very loud, bad actors.

Yeah, whenever people start to go to "war" over something, there is always collateral damage.

Although the logic does add up, I'm not sure how effective it is in practice. The woke folk characteristically lack self-awareness and project blame. When something goes wrong - like this game flopping, for instance - they will look for something or someone else to blame, rather than the woke elements. So I doubt their behavior will change much.

In this case, I think that's okay. If the game flops, the main reason won't be the woke shit, so it's fair to point the finger elsewhere. If it flops, it will be for the usual reasons - story, gameplay, marketing, etc.. Most gamers don't even notice the woke stuff, much less make buying decisions based on it. Some of us here do, but we're a minority.