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[LectureMaster]

Dragon Age: The Veilguard won't let you control your companions because you can't handle it: "This is a much higher actions-per-minute game"

"It wasn't actually adding to the experience"

www.gamesradar.com

That's a major deviation from the rest of the series, but Busche says there's a simple reason for that - Dragon Age: The Veilguard "is a much higher actions-per-minute game. It is more technically demanding on the player. So when we tried allowing you full control of your companions as well, what we've found is it wasn't actually adding to the experience. In fact, in some ways it was detrimental, given the demanding nature of just controlling your own character."

Thoughts? I think it's total horseshit excuse.

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Update: Looks like there is a string of new info of the game from an interview with Edge.

• The game is trying to get players to switch up companions more than in previous games (where Bioware data shows most players stick with the same group of companions for the majority of the game), including by more missions that have a required companion or lock you out of using certain companions.
• You might run into companions who are not currently in your party at times, as they continue to explore the world. An example given is exploring Docktown for an unrelated reason but running into Neve working on her own mission and being able to stop what you're doing and join her.
• The companion side quests are big and there are big potential story consequences if you don't complete them as they will play out on their own.

 

[feynoob]

Let's see how this plays out princess. It could be a great game or a funny disaster comedy.

 

[Draugoth]

Controlling your party members in Origins was extremely stressful but it was very rewarding.

IDk why they are doing this. The game will easy pissy.

 

[StereoVsn]

Wow, just when you think the game can’t get much worse from the impressions, they keep digging. I am going to fucking laugh at people who preorder this shit.

 

[Lethal01]

 

[dreamstation]

I like when developers think they know what I can or can't handle. How about you listen to your player base and make the game that they actually want?

 

[T4keD0wN]

Should have made it a tv show if theyre worried about it having too much gameplay.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

Here we go again..

The people who made your favourite games were pushed out by woke weirdos who wanted control. They got control

Now we have shit games

No problem. Here to help.

 

[feynoob]

That is alot of work.

 

[Hrk69]

So cool. Can't wait for the PC release

 

[Gaiff]

So they turned a tactical RPG into a bullshit hack-n-slash game they're not even good at making?

Sounds promising.

 

[ssringo]

I'm reminded of the Dungeon Siege games. Great start but simplified each sequel with the third (and final) game barely resembling the original.

 

[Ozriel]

I like when developers think they know what I can or can't handle. How about you listen to your player base and make the game that they actually want?

Funny how everyone runs away from this sentiment when it comes to adding a pause feature to Souls games.

Then the narrative changes to “it’ll spoil the devs creative decisions”

 

[semiconscious]

I like when developers think they know what I can or can't handle. How about you listen to your player base and make the game that they actually want?

okay, now you're just being ridiculous. you really think you know more than 'developers'? hell, they're the experts, for goodness sake!...

 

[Loomy]

First thing that came to mind lol

 

[Mozzarella]

This is why Turn-based combat is superior in party-based RPGs

 

[Ozzie666]

First thing I thought of was FF7 Remake/Rebirth combat. It's almost unfair that it's pretty much perfection.

Will wait and see how it turns out, but their reasoning does sound a bit like a 'we couldn't figure it out' or 'it was too hard basket' or 'we aren't skilled enough' spin type thing.
Maybe I'm wrong and it's best for the game and experience.

 

[Frwrd]

I read the other day (can't remember where) they were expressing their discontent on the past games 'Character Creator' for not being able to recreate accurate colors of the characters' skin in order to provide a "better representation for people of color".

 

[LectureMaster]

I read the other day (can't remember where) they were expressing their discontent on the past games 'Character Creator' for not being able to recreate accurate the colors of the characters' skin in order to provide a "better representation for people of color".

There you go. Brave and stunning.

Dragon Age: The Veilguard director wants the RPG's character creator to be a "make-good": "Full disclosure, Dragon Age has traditionally not done skin tones well"

"We want everyone to be able to see themselves in this game"

www.gamesradar.com

 

[Frwrd]

There you go. Brave and stunning.

Dragon Age: The Veilguard director wants the RPG's character creator to be a "make-good": "Full disclosure, Dragon Age has traditionally not done skin tones well"

"We want everyone to be able to see themselves in this game"

www.gamesradar.com

This shit right here!

 

[Doom85]

Ironically though, from the same series only one year prior:

I would prefer party control, but XVI failed additionally by:

-only one weapon type (given the classes options of this DA game, this shouldn’t be an issue with your MC)
-zero party leveling, and barely any stats at all, and leveling the MC barely makes a difference anyway (remains to be seen if this will be an issue with this DA game)

 

[BadBurger]

Game designers feel the need to come up with weird excuses for some of their design decisions, when it would probably go over better with players if they just admitted "this is the way we wanted to design combat" or whatever.

 

[LegendOfKage]

"The game is trying to get players to switch up companions more than in previous games (where Bioware data shows most players stick with the same group of companions for the majority of the game), including by more missions that have a required companion or lock you out of using certain companions."

Player choice is the enemy of diversity.

 

[Complistic]

I mean they believe their audience is dumb so this makes sense.

 

[JayK47]

Do they accept my recommendations? I said please...

 

[adamsapple]

I mean they believe their audience is retarded so this makes sense.

 

[lmimmfn]

This game is going to be unbelievably awful.

Maybe your team can just complete the game for you?

 

[Lethal01]

I read the other day (can't remember where) they were expressing their discontent on the past games 'Character Creator' for not being able to recreate accurate colors of the characters' skin in order to provide a "better representation for people of color".

Well that's good honestly, having a character creator with decent amount of skin tones should be a given

 

[ZehDon]

A Dragon Age that doesn't look or play like a Dragon Age game.

Oh yeah, this is gonna be great...

 

[dreamstation]

Funny how everyone runs away from this sentiment when it comes to adding a pause feature to Souls games.

Do Souls players really want that though?

okay, now you're just being ridiculous. you really think you know more than 'developers'? hell, they're the experts, for goodness sake!...

I'm thinking this is sarcasm... really hope it is.

 

[diffusionx]

Dragon Age was originally conceived as a back-to-the-roots style of Bioware RPG, and they turned it into a fantasy themed gay version of Mass Effect. So lame.

 

[Luipadre]

Perfect post lol. Western devs these days man...

 

[WX3]

Thank you for respecting my time.

 

[feynoob]

If this guy wasnt piece of shit, he would have a legendary status for this quote.

 

[simpatico]

Supposedly it's the first Bioware game that's fun to play. So we've got that to look forward to.

 

[Danjin44]

They know about Tales of and Star Ocean series that has fast pace action combat and still let you switch between character members?

Heck you have action game like Astral chain you literally controlling two characters as at the same time.

 

[Punished Miku]

I'll play it on GP. Not expecting much but I'll give it a fair shot.

I never expected this to be anything like the previous games. Its different people.

 

[ReBurn]

If I can do it in Pikmin I can do it here.

 

[Skifi28]

They really don't want me to spend any money. Fine, you win.

 

[Hypereides]

I like when developers think they know what I can or can't handle. How about you listen to your player base and make the game that they actually want?

They won't. AAA has grown hugely disconnected from the gaming community. Our opinions and views don't matter to them.

 

[DaciaJC]

Welp, that's the final nail in the coffin for me.

 

[semiconscious]

i've come to the conclusion that they need to find someone on their staff that actually plays video games to do this promotional stuff...

 

[StreetsofBeige]

• The game is trying to get players to switch up companions more than in previous games (where Bioware data shows most players stick with the same group of companions for the majority of the game), including by more missions that have a required companion or lock you out of using certain companions.

This is how I like to play RPGs. Stick to a core. Even if it hurts my group in some battles because I'm using a less efficient class, I like sticking with the family.

They are probably forcing character swapping so they can mandate gamers playing some DEI stuff, or to purposely stretch out the game where any characters forced into your group may require more grinding to level up compared to your core group which is maxing out XP from the beginning.

 

[Damigos]

Companions i can handle, wokeness i cant

 

[Outlier]

i'm ok with. I hate controlling undesirables, anyway.

 

[nkarafo]

How about you listen to your player base and make the game that they actually want?

That ship has sailed a long time ago with this game.

 

[RoboFu]

You didn't control your party in the last DA either and that was okay. Not great but okay. It's just par for the course for these games.. they have taken everything else away and dumbed them down.


But that's okay as balders gate 3 gave it all back and was a huge success so there is hope for these types of games to turn around in the future. This one was just too far gone in development before Bg3 came out.

 

[Skifi28]

You didn't control your party in the last DA either and that was okay.

Unless I'm missing something, the last game was inquisition where you did control your party.

 

[LectureMaster]

You didn't control your party in the last DA either

You can fully control companions in Inquisition. And it means you can play all nine specializations, very fun.

 

[RoboFu]

You can fully control companions in Inquisition. And it means you can play all nine specializations, very fun.

Maybe I'm not understanding this news then. In DAI you can take control of them but not direct them like you could in the first games. You can only change their AI priorities or be them.