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Dragon Quest 7: Fragments of the Forgotten Past |OT| Roman numerals are hard
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that was super depressing back then. even now it stands out as very gloomy by jrpg standards
Velcro Fly
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When you beat a dungeon and then have to slog through it again because you didn't know beating the boss would instantly warp you out so you can't get the fragment. Thanks game.
Ha ha ha literally dragging me all the way back to the present. Fucking fuck game are you serious
Ha ha ha literally dragging me all the way back to the present. Fucking fuck game are you serious
any job/path recommendations for (character spoiler)
?
I don't really have any set paths for other people, just have done a few basic jobs each so far. Main has warrior/martial artist/priest/jester, maribel has mage/priest/dancer/troubadour, and ruff has warrior/martial artist/thief/shepherd
sir mervyn
I don't really have any set paths for other people, just have done a few basic jobs each so far. Main has warrior/martial artist/priest/jester, maribel has mage/priest/dancer/troubadour, and ruff has warrior/martial artist/thief/shepherd
OnionPowder
Member
Digital copy. Game looked fine until i went to boot and crashed on start everytime
If you have a physical copy you should be fine though
Edit: also all my humble bundle and DSi games corrupted as well
Elaugaufein
Member
This sounds like its your (mjcro)SD card that has issues (corrupted files) since the system stuff seems to have worked. If you have a backup copy or an intermediate copy from the transfer try it with a. Different cars.
I finished this earlier today. It's a very leisurely game with an adventurous feel, definitely the most-so for the series. I have an affinity for vignette style narratives so that worked well for me. While some of the island narratives were a bit standard-fare, many were executed quite well, I feel. I especially liked the story in the Aeolus Vale (among others).
It's not an overly difficult game, but a few of the later boss battles are at least tricky enough to require a semblance of team coherence and coordination. I failed my first attempt against the final boss because my character classes were a hodgepodge of jobs that didn't really fit together as I was leveling them up. Changed my classes to a well balanced party and then cleared him with ease.
I really enjoyed it but there are definitely a few places where it falters some. People have already brought up how using enemy icons on the map can be problematic, especially when many places in the game feature narrow corridors. Avoiding these icons can be more-than-difficult, and Holy Protection doesn't help much later in the game. Secondly, the are many instances where you have to travel through some dungeon two or three times to progress the story
. That each location has a present and past version also tends to make the game feel a bit repetitive at times. Also, the later parts of the game can get especially talky.
That said, it was a fun (if lengthy) romp. My save file reads 79 hours. Some of that was casino-ing, a little bit of dedicated job-leveling, and perhaps some idle time.
The interface didn't really bother me too much - I suppose I quickly adjusted to its quirks. I also played DQ4-6 DS earlier this year, which use very similar UIs.
It's not an overly difficult game, but a few of the later boss battles are at least tricky enough to require a semblance of team coherence and coordination. I failed my first attempt against the final boss because my character classes were a hodgepodge of jobs that didn't really fit together as I was leveling them up. Changed my classes to a well balanced party and then cleared him with ease.
I really enjoyed it but there are definitely a few places where it falters some. People have already brought up how using enemy icons on the map can be problematic, especially when many places in the game feature narrow corridors. Avoiding these icons can be more-than-difficult, and Holy Protection doesn't help much later in the game. Secondly, the are many instances where you have to travel through some dungeon two or three times to progress the story
(How many times do you travel up the lightouse?)
That said, it was a fun (if lengthy) romp. My save file reads 79 hours. Some of that was casino-ing, a little bit of dedicated job-leveling, and perhaps some idle time.
The interface didn't really bother me too much - I suppose I quickly adjusted to its quirks. I also played DQ4-6 DS earlier this year, which use very similar UIs.
Please let me know when in the game this happens so I can avoid it. Something like that could be enough for me to lose my patience and shelve this for a while.
Assuming you need the last yellow fragment, the other locations are:
Pilgrim's Perdition, La Bravoure (flying carpet town), Dig Site, Time Frame (I don't think you can miss this one)
Pilgrim's Perdition, La Bravoure (flying carpet town), Dig Site, Time Frame (I don't think you can miss this one)
So, I'm pretty new to Dragon Quest, played through most of the series for the first time this year. The only title I felt a need to grind was DQ3 (mobile), both due to that game's higher level of difficulty and how I always felt like I was really low on money.
That one is a bit annoying - a bit of a goose-chase quest.
IIRC:
You have to talk to an old man at the top of the casino, then a person in the lower tunnel, then the armor shop clerk (from behind the counter), then a person at the top of the lighthouse, then the priest in the casino basement, then search the priest's altar.
I just finished the desert dungeon and revisited the palace.
Help would be greatly appreciated. 
Ruff's telling me (he is a thief) there are four chests in the undermost floor. I assume there are in the one room in the north, but how do I get there? Did I miss something or do I have to advance the story further, to get there?
I just finished the desert dungeon and revisited the palace.Help would be greatly appreciated.Ruff's telling me (he is a thief) there are four chests in the undermost floor. I assume there are in the one room in the north, but how do I get there? Did I miss something or do I have to advance the story further, to get there?
When you return in the present, you'll be welcomed as heroes and directed to that room
Well, that' simple. Thanks!
I somehow thought he wouldn't tell me there are treasures in the Past, if I can only get them in the Present.^^Teriyaki Blues
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Any character that has a unique icon and shows up in your town "counts" for the total. This includes DLC Villagers from SE, other promotional sources, and from other players who put up eligibile tablets in the Download Bar or StreetPass.I have a question about the haven and mini medals. Do downloaded villagers count toward total villager count or is it just story villagers? Trying to figure out if I missed a mini medal permanently or not
Remember that you have to get about 40 hours in the game to be able to put permanent villagers up for grabs in the Download Bar or StreetPass. I haven't passed anyone yet either way, as it seems not many players are making it that far.
Clearing the obnoxiously named Nottagen (Past) island is the trigger for this to open up.
You probably missed the Medal(s). Luckily there are plenty extra to spare, you can miss a few and still get all the prizes if I recall correctly. Quite a few have been added/moved to the nice mansion that you can sock your extra villagers in.
One Mini Medal is permanently missable at the 3-6 Villagers range, and another two are permanently missable in the 7-13 Villagers range.
Jumping back into the thread here, but yes. Yes. The conclusion to this vignette was touching and far more impactful than any melodramatic cutscene would have ever been. Really liked how it was done.
My sweet summer child
Depends on your level.
I beat alltrades, barely, at level 17, and the area around it was good for grinding until level 20.
One of my characters just mastered monster masher:
Elaugaufein
Member
Are you sure ? I have 9 villagers including Download Tablets but I'm still at Level 1 Haven (from the 1st 3 recruited)
If you are under level 20 then the best place is the slime tablet dungeon. If you are 20 or higher then the best place would be the most recent tablet dungeon you obtained.
Tizoc
Member
I uh
Haven't used any Tablets yet.
Where can I get this 2nd tablet you mentioned and how do I access its dungeon?
You get them as you get people to move into Haven. The first resident is in Pilchard and then he'll give you a clue for where you can find the next person and so on.
You use tablets by taking them to the plinth underground in Haven.
Tizoc
Member
Oh I got 2 people to Haven, so I use the 2nd one then? Once I complete this part of the game I'll head over there and try it thanks.
By most recent I meat the most recent one you can get. The first 4-5 tablets have a cap of 20 for job exp but the rest of them have no cap.
Tizoc
Member
OK got it, tablet hunting it is.
Tribes of Trusty
Member
Man, as basic Toriyama's character design is (you basically always have a party with a Goku clone, a Trunks clone and a Bulma clone throughout the games), his monster design are pretty cool in a old school kind of way.
Vincent Grayson
Member
I still can't believe how long this game takes to get to the job system. It's probably the biggest issue I have with the game.
How do I actually see the monsters I let live because I am such a saint? Not the fake people who move into haven, the monsters after a battle because I have food for them.
I know the area, I have seen the portal in haven, but when I go there there are no monsters?
I know the area, I have seen the portal in haven, but when I go there there are no monsters?
Teriyaki Blues
Member
You absolutely have to clear the story all the way up to at least the last two-three islands to be able to visit your monsters in Monster Meadows. The specific town you have to save is called
Nottagen. You can also elect to not save this town, but either way you should have access to the full Monster Meadows experience at that point.
Unfortunately, I'm currently locked into a chain of dungeons leading up to the game's ending at the moment, so I can't exactly do anything fun with my new buddies right now (including the coveted HealSlime as well as some big Gold droppers).
I'm not sure what the triggers are for them building the Monster Enclosures once you fork over the Plans are, I haven't made any progress there in many hours of gameplay, holding onto several Plans at the moment, they didn't actually build any of the ones I gave them four islands ago and wouldn't take the new ones, and I'm worried it may have bugged out. I'll be checking just as soon as the story lets me again. Fingers crossed.
archnemesis
Member
It has a pretty high attack stat for Maribel, right? That might be useful when
you lose access to all your spells and abilities
Mr. Wonderful
Member
There's something about 80's anime, man. Or maybe it's the baby boomers. Such an inspirational decade for TV/film in general.
Teriyaki Blues
Member
They're waiting in limbo.
Sammy Samusu
Member
I always got him Paladin, along with Pirate for Auster and Monster Masher for Ruff. (so, priest and martial artist, and then went on to warrior for Godhand)
This playthrough I'm doing monster classes for Ruff after Monster Masher, since MM has some really overpowered no-MP abilities that are really breaking the game where I'm at.
Lunarwhale
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I can't remember, were the people you recruit to your village reformed monsters in the original? I swear they were just normal people, but I'm doubting myself on that now.
Just got Ruff. I can't remember which island comes next, which is a pretty nice feeling.
Just got Ruff. I can't remember which island comes next, which is a pretty nice feeling.
They were just normal people, yes.
Well now I feel terrible. They begged me for a better life and I sent them to the place between heaven and hell with promises of paradise and food
RPG_Fanatic
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They were just random normal people in original. The village has been tweaked to be less tedious and give access to the tablet dungeons. In the original you grabbed random NPCs that appeared in various inns around the world to recruit to the village. Depending on the type of NPCs you recruited, the town's final form would change. I believe there were four or five. I remember a generic town, a farmer town, a religious town, and a grand slum. Since each town had its own items to find and buy, getting everything was quite time consuming.
Now there is apparently only one final town, with all the important bits melded together.
They get released from limbo once you unlock the island by continuing the game and by finding a blueprint to create an area for the monster to live.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Sooo, I'm about to go give
a shot. I had been training, and just unlocked Champion/Godhand and was surprised to see I have Hero as well. I think I had assumed I had to finish Champion then I would get Hero. Is one better than the other? This is on my hero.
Gracos V
lol same. I was very unprepared for that fight.
second time around I just made sure to take out the asshole who confuses you first, and it went a lot better.
Use snooze liberally.
Megalosaro
Banned
Christ they sped up job levelling. I master ed my first jobs in under an hour.
What is the most efficient way to get to the tier 3 jobs? Also, I want my hero to be a hero, but utilize the pirate job to get there
What is the most efficient way to get to the tier 3 jobs? Also, I want my hero to be a hero, but utilize the pirate job to get there
It doesn't really matter. The requirements for hero are just 3 intermediate/advanced jobs mastered.