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Dragon Quest appreciation thread
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Just wondering, I have played a couple of FF games and it shits me to no end that I have to keep all the characters levelled up for when the game splits into groups. Do the DQ games have this also? I am interested in trying a GB one on my DS if I can find it to buy (I assume there are no native DS versions yet?).
I just got the Zenithian Sword blessed by the Dragon God in DQIV, but I've got a few other things to do up before I jump down into the depths.
One thing I haven't been able to do up is the Immigrant Town. That fello Hoffman talks to me and nothing happens since he's all by himself in the area where the town is supposed to be built I think - any advice? I'll go through the JP release thread and see if I can gain any info.
One thing I haven't been able to do up is the Immigrant Town. That fello Hoffman talks to me and nothing happens since he's all by himself in the area where the town is supposed to be built I think - any advice? I'll go through the JP release thread and see if I can gain any info.
speedpop said:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=942422&topic=39775496
I posted a FAQ for the immigrant town, there.
Alright. I just completed Disc 1 at 101:55 hours. Rock on!
The newly combined eboot (of discs 1 and 2) and the new POPS/POPSLoader handled the disc-change process without a hitch. Granted, DQVII allows you to save during the disc-swap process, so the disc-change hump is passable even if you don't have the benefit of the new disc-switch option. But it's nice to know that it all works perfectly as-is.
The Demon Lord went down, I exited the dungeon, the game prompted me to save, and then insert disc 2, so I hit Home, chose Switch Discs, selected disc 2, confirmed, and bam, the game just kept on going.
The newly combined eboot (of discs 1 and 2) and the new POPS/POPSLoader handled the disc-change process without a hitch. Granted, DQVII allows you to save during the disc-swap process, so the disc-change hump is passable even if you don't have the benefit of the new disc-switch option. But it's nice to know that it all works perfectly as-is.
The Demon Lord went down, I exited the dungeon, the game prompted me to save, and then insert disc 2, so I hit Home, chose Switch Discs, selected disc 2, confirmed, and bam, the game just kept on going.
vagabondarts
Member
I'm beyond excited to have the possibility to finally play DQIV-VI legitimately...
and portable too!
How much longer do we have to wait for DS DQIV?
and portable too!
How much longer do we have to wait for DS DQIV?
Bah, is the Dharma Temple going to remain mostly inaccessible to me throughout disc 2? This is really fucking lame, if I hit a wall in job development because I can't go and switch jobs!
To my knowledge, the Dragon Quest DS games aren't yet confirmed for US release. I've heard mumblings that DQIV would be coming out here (and some details of the JP release certainly support that), but there's no announced date yet.
To my knowledge, the Dragon Quest DS games aren't yet confirmed for US release. I've heard mumblings that DQIV would be coming out here (and some details of the JP release certainly support that), but there's no announced date yet.
What does it do?
Loto has mastered the last basic class (shepherd) now, and he already has almost all of the other 2nd and 3rd tier classes as well.
Here's what he has mastered:
Warrior
Fighter
Mage
Cleric
Dancer
Thief
Bard
Mariner
Shepherd
Jester
Dragoon
Ranger
Sage
Paladin
Godhand
Hero
I was going to move in to TeenIdol next, since Gabo already has Pirate and Tamer (though I'll get them with Loto as well).
Loto has mastered the last basic class (shepherd) now, and he already has almost all of the other 2nd and 3rd tier classes as well.
Here's what he has mastered:
Warrior
Fighter
Mage
Cleric
Dancer
Thief
Bard
Mariner
Shepherd
Jester
Dragoon
Ranger
Sage
Paladin
Godhand
Hero
I was going to move in to TeenIdol next, since Gabo already has Pirate and Tamer (though I'll get them with Loto as well).
vagabondarts
Member
Show of hands... how many people played the first Dragon Warrior on the NES because it came with their subscription to Nintendo Power in the 80's?
Well I finally got Dragon Warrior III (GBC) in the mail yesterday.
I'm very familiar with the NES game (own it since release, played through it multiple times) but I am amazed by this version. I have to eat a little crow here because I said before that I prefer the NES games, that I didn't like the GBC versions for various reasons, but after actually playing the awesomeness that is this remake all those nitpicks have melted away. I love the remixed music (as I did in I and II GBC) and I really like the color palette they chose, love the shades of green they picked. The graphics are an obvious, substantial leap over I and II. Screenshots really do not do this game justice, I didn't care much for screens but it looks so good when you're actually playing.
There are so many other improvements, like the redrawn overworld art, the faster walking speed in town (wasn't expecting that!), monster animations in battle, and like the other two GBC games the speedier leveling.
I haven't gotten very far (only up to Romaly) but this game rocks. Really glad I gave these GBC versions another shot. I still think NA got robbed by not getting the SNES remakes, but at least we got these.
I'm very familiar with the NES game (own it since release, played through it multiple times) but I am amazed by this version. I have to eat a little crow here because I said before that I prefer the NES games, that I didn't like the GBC versions for various reasons, but after actually playing the awesomeness that is this remake all those nitpicks have melted away. I love the remixed music (as I did in I and II GBC) and I really like the color palette they chose, love the shades of green they picked. The graphics are an obvious, substantial leap over I and II. Screenshots really do not do this game justice, I didn't care much for screens but it looks so good when you're actually playing.
There are so many other improvements, like the redrawn overworld art, the faster walking speed in town (wasn't expecting that!), monster animations in battle, and like the other two GBC games the speedier leveling.
I haven't gotten very far (only up to Romaly) but this game rocks. Really glad I gave these GBC versions another shot. I still think NA got robbed by not getting the SNES remakes, but at least we got these.
Finally "finished" DQIV on DS earlier today. Had hit a brick wall a few hours before facing off against the last boss, but decided to just bite the bullet and do it. Didn't do much with the Immigrant Town as it seems like if I knew more than basic Japanese it'd be a lot better in terms of conversations etc. The mini medals unlocked via the various towns will have to wait till an English release. I've still got chapter 6 to do but I think I'll leave that till the local release as well.
Overall I really enjoyed the game and loved the character chapter setups. Torneko's chapter was one of the most stupid when I started it but as I progressed it became a lot better to the point where Torneko is my favourite character in the game. And I know I'm a pretty big music buff when it comes to Sugiyama so I was real happy with his output on this. The Sea Breeze tune is all sorts of epic and gives me goosebumps every time.. a shame you never really hear it again after you grab the Air Balloon.
So I got filled with nostalgia earlier tonight and I booted up DQVIII :lol I had the US version but the modded PS2 I had died a few months ago and I didn't really want to wait till I got another modded PS2.. so I bought the PAL version a month or so back and never sat down to go through it because:
a) my NTSC save file (which was about halfway through the game) wouldn't work on the PAL version.
b) I didn't really feel like starting over again till now.
Hopefully now I'll be able to invest a bit more time and finish it.
Overall I really enjoyed the game and loved the character chapter setups. Torneko's chapter was one of the most stupid when I started it but as I progressed it became a lot better to the point where Torneko is my favourite character in the game. And I know I'm a pretty big music buff when it comes to Sugiyama so I was real happy with his output on this. The Sea Breeze tune is all sorts of epic and gives me goosebumps every time.. a shame you never really hear it again after you grab the Air Balloon.
So I got filled with nostalgia earlier tonight and I booted up DQVIII :lol I had the US version but the modded PS2 I had died a few months ago and I didn't really want to wait till I got another modded PS2.. so I bought the PAL version a month or so back and never sat down to go through it because:
a) my NTSC save file (which was about halfway through the game) wouldn't work on the PAL version.
b) I didn't really feel like starting over again till now.
Hopefully now I'll be able to invest a bit more time and finish it.
Magicpaint
Member
Chapter 6 is just mainly a bonus dungeon + a couple of short but new scenarios. It sholdn't take too long. I'd suggest you still try it.
vagabondarts said:Show of hands... how many people played the first Dragon Warrior on the NES because it came with their subscription to Nintendo Power in the 80's?
I think I already had the game, but I remember the commercial. It was some skater dude pretending to ride on a dragon, if I remember correctly.
This might be the wrong place to ask, but I have my legit copy of DW VII, an image of the discs on my computer, and 3.71 M33-2 firmware on my slim PSP, and I can't for the life of me get it to convert properly into an eboot. I can play Vagrant Story (which I did not convert myself) fine on the PSP, but everytime I try to convert any other game, it either gives me an error or hangs on a black screen after the little Playstation blurb. Help? Please PM or reply here. Thanks! I really want to play through this till the end this time... I always start playing and end up not finishing.
Yeah. Not understanding the DQII dislike. It was a magnificent improvement over the original in just about anything else, and has always aged WAY better.
Finally got my first REAL fatal crash in DQVII, not including that 3.80 M33 nonsense. A entered a travel gate and the warp never initiated. The music continued, and I had camera control, but I couldn't move or pull up a menu. Had to reset. Thankfully, it wasn't a reproduce-able error, and a quick reload and re-attempt did the trick. I only lost about 4 minutes, not a big deal.
I'm about 120 hours into the game now, and approaching the end of disc 2.
The Wind Castle up above is probably one of the coolest dungeons in the entire game. It's one of the few occasions where the 3D graphics are WELL justified, and hell, it even recalls Super Mario Galaxy (of all things) in some ways.
Finally got my first REAL fatal crash in DQVII, not including that 3.80 M33 nonsense. A entered a travel gate and the warp never initiated. The music continued, and I had camera control, but I couldn't move or pull up a menu. Had to reset. Thankfully, it wasn't a reproduce-able error, and a quick reload and re-attempt did the trick. I only lost about 4 minutes, not a big deal.
I'm about 120 hours into the game now, and approaching the end of disc 2.
The Wind Castle up above is probably one of the coolest dungeons in the entire game. It's one of the few occasions where the 3D graphics are WELL justified, and hell, it even recalls Super Mario Galaxy (of all things) in some ways.
I can't think of a single DQ game I don't like. There are some parts of the last 3 DQ games that I wasn't too thrilled with (DQ8's length, or maybe I should just say the
, and the job system in DQ6/7 in general) but I've never played a DQ that wasn't fun, and engaging on multiple levels.
orb fetch quest near the end
Dark Octave
Banned
Nice thread. I played DQ1 and DQVIII.
Has there been any talk about DQVII getting a remake, port, or just arriving on the PSN classics section? Because at this rate i'll NEVER get to play it...I've learned my lesson about Dragon Quest main series games, i'm going to make sure to snap up Dragon Quest IV, V, VI, and IX whenever they make it stateside for the DS.
Count me in on those who don't quite understand the DQ II hate. It's better than the first in just about every way. I think the final zone is a bit bland and tedious, but that's not really enough to take away from the rest of the game.
I do really like how the first three games escalate the franchise.
First game, pretty big continent, nice one on one battles.
Second game, direct sequel, three man crew, bigger battles. That previously big continent is just a drop in the ocean.
Third game, prequel, four man crew, three of which can be swapped out, even bigger battles. The world from two? Once again a drop in the ocean.
I do really like how the first three games escalate the franchise.
First game, pretty big continent, nice one on one battles.
Second game, direct sequel, three man crew, bigger battles. That previously big continent is just a drop in the ocean.
Third game, prequel, four man crew, three of which can be swapped out, even bigger battles. The world from two? Once again a drop in the ocean.
PataHikari
Banned
Mejilan said:
Swap at will.
Ok a few complaints.
Did the NTSC version of DQVIII ever have a "Now Loading" section during certain parts? Cause I am sure it didn't yet it does in the PAL version.
WTF @ BUTTON LAYOUT!!??!?! Cause I'm so used to the way DQIV on the DS plays, it took about an hour to get it proper, and even now I am still doing a few mistakes.
Did the NTSC version of DQVIII ever have a "Now Loading" section during certain parts? Cause I am sure it didn't yet it does in the PAL version.
WTF @ BUTTON LAYOUT!!??!?! Cause I'm so used to the way DQIV on the DS plays, it took about an hour to get it proper, and even now I am still doing a few mistakes.
speedpop said:
I know that the US version had pretty janky loads times, primarily due to the higher quality music, I believe.
I wouldn't know, since I installed my copy of the game directly to my PS2's HDD, and basically got the best of both worlds (Symphonic Suite music, JP-like lack of loads). That said, I don't remember even one load SCREEN, and I put well over 100 hours into that game before beating it.
If the EU version has the enhanced music of the US version, and the load that presumably went with it, then they might have included load screens here and there just for the fuck of it.
I know, but it felt really tacked on compared to how it was actually significant to DQ3's plot, and it kind of artifically lengthened the game to me. They could've just stuck with the DQ3 homage revealed in the ending and I would've been happy.Aeana said:
... actually, in general, I think all the stuff after you go to
Rhapthorne's castle
Final update:
In the 140+ hours I put into DQVII, I've only experienced two fatal crashes. Both random and apparently not able to be duplicated.
I pretty much feel like I did everything possible within reason. Fully completed the story, finalized the monster book, beat both bonus dungeons, and milked the bonus boss for all of his loot. Hell, even got him to join my immigrant town!
POPS 3.72 is definitely the way to go folks, so that means POPSLoader either using 3.71 M33, 3.80 M33, or 3.90 M33.
In the 140+ hours I put into DQVII, I've only experienced two fatal crashes. Both random and apparently not able to be duplicated.
I pretty much feel like I did everything possible within reason. Fully completed the story, finalized the monster book, beat both bonus dungeons, and milked the bonus boss for all of his loot. Hell, even got him to join my immigrant town!
POPS 3.72 is definitely the way to go folks, so that means POPSLoader either using 3.71 M33, 3.80 M33, or 3.90 M33.
Been playing a bit more of DW2GBC... I made it past the part that I got stuck at in the NES version some 15 years ago... the tower where you need to equip the Cape to fly to the other side... I never had any idea of where you got the Cape, and after wandering around for like an hour, I managed to find some nondescript bridge that took me through a coastal route to another whole tower. Part of what's annoying about DW2 is that the game hasn't been doing a great job of telling you where to go, not to mention the world is absolutely massive... I also had trouble finding the prince at the beginning of the game. So yeah, now I'm in the town of Lianport, I had to save as soon as I got there, I am gonna resume during lunchtime.
Almost done with DWIII GBC. All I have left is
.
I have to say this remake is utterly awesome. I really thought screenshots of this game looked horrible, but playing it is another thing altogether. This is the next-best remake of a game I have ever played, second only to Metroid: Zero Mission. I love the inclusion of the Tiny Medals, I've found ~80 out of 100, and lots of those were pretty cleverly hidden. I may go back after beating the game and search the heck out of every town to see if I missed any in them.
It's a complete toss-up for me on which one is the better game, DWIII or DWIV. I really wish that remake of IV would come to NA soon.
Zoma
I have to say this remake is utterly awesome. I really thought screenshots of this game looked horrible, but playing it is another thing altogether. This is the next-best remake of a game I have ever played, second only to Metroid: Zero Mission. I love the inclusion of the Tiny Medals, I've found ~80 out of 100, and lots of those were pretty cleverly hidden. I may go back after beating the game and search the heck out of every town to see if I missed any in them.
It's a complete toss-up for me on which one is the better game, DWIII or DWIV. I really wish that remake of IV would come to NA soon.
huge history of dragon quest article posted today at gamasutra: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3520/the_history_of_dragon_quest.php
overview of the series, plus spoilery summaries of stories and gameplay elements for each main game and short blurbs on spinoffs:
overview of the series, plus spoilery summaries of stories and gameplay elements for each main game and short blurbs on spinoffs:
Making progress in DW2 GBC, slowly but surely. It's tough since I challenged myself to play the game without using a FAQ... Once I got the ship, I was pretty much at a loss of what to do for a little while... but I managed to piece together enough stuff...
-I have 3 of the Seals, and just discovered where to find the Water Seal.
-I have the Jail Key.
-I just gave the Dew Yarn and Loom to the weaver in Tuhn, he hasn't made me my Water Cape yet
-I just opened up the Dam in the Tuhn village, and have to go to the tower south of there
-Character levels are 21, 19, and 15. I also have the Bolt Staff for Nana and all of the Loto equipment.
-I realllllllly want the Fur armor for my guys but it's oh so much money!
Traveling across the world map takes forever, I wish this game had a spell that allowed you to warp directly to specific towns, instead of the last town you saved at. The monsters are ramping up in difficulty at this point, and I have a feeling I'll need to grind a bit more.
-I have 3 of the Seals, and just discovered where to find the Water Seal.
-I have the Jail Key.
-I just gave the Dew Yarn and Loom to the weaver in Tuhn, he hasn't made me my Water Cape yet
-I just opened up the Dam in the Tuhn village, and have to go to the tower south of there
-Character levels are 21, 19, and 15. I also have the Bolt Staff for Nana and all of the Loto equipment.
-I realllllllly want the Fur armor for my guys but it's oh so much money!
Traveling across the world map takes forever, I wish this game had a spell that allowed you to warp directly to specific towns, instead of the last town you saved at. The monsters are ramping up in difficulty at this point, and I have a feeling I'll need to grind a bit more.