DS moving in the right direction?

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missAran

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During the NES and Genesis/SNES era, we had 2D gaming. The NES gave true birth to it, and the Genesis/SNES revamped it. The same thing happened with the PSX/N64 era and the Xbox/PS2/GCN era. 3D gaming was created, and the next generation improved upon it.

Now, it would appear that we've reached a wall. From the looks of it the next generation consoles are merely better 3D machines. Which is nice, but it's not enough. I don't merely want better graphics and sound; I want a new way to play a game (much like 3D gaming introduced). So perhaps, the DS, with it's dual screen activity is the right step to go. Massive innovation needs to happen; playing games in brand new ways. I'm not sure how it's going to happen, or the direction it needs to be pushed in; but I think it's utterly crucial that it does happen.
 
I agree!

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I wouldn't really call the NES the birth of 2D gaming.

That said, I'm pretty pleased with what the DS offers so far, even if, as far as innovation is concerned, we see more hints than actual proof positive. But there are some very exciting pieces of software right around the corner (such as Wario Ware Touched) which have me salivating.

At worst, it's a competent 3D handheld with some neat gimmicks. At best, it's a competent 3D handheld which will offer some exciting gameplay opportunities you won't see elsewhere. Right now I'm leaning towards the latter. I'd be pleased either way, however.
 
Children, let's stay on task. Perhaps online gaming is the way to change gaming forever, but I hesitate to say that because it's been on PCs for so long and it really hasn't done much except improve multiplayer.

Does anyone think that Microsoft and Sony don't see this innovation? It appears that both of them are just concerned with a more powerful machine; in fact, the PS2 is merely a better PSX (with online capability) -- the controller barely changed even.
 
DS moving in the right direction? In my opinion they are, but just like all things Nintendo the implementation of it is lacking. The games just aren't there 'yet'. Even the marketing for the DS is half-assed. Why in the world if the DS is stressed to be bringing gaming back to it's "simplicity" is Metroid the Demo on every unit?? Most kids that go and try it are dumbfounded by the controls and don't understand how to work it. If you hadn't read how to control it on the internet, you'd never figure it out. It leaves a bad taste in their mouth, one girl said she didn't want one because it seemed too complicated. I then let her try mine with the Slingshot game from Mario and she was floored. I've had grown men that never owned a console love that little mini-game. What is wrong with Nintendo and their marketing department? The Gamecube was a disaster as far as marketing and I'm hoping the DS doesn't fall in the same boat. :-\ Sorry for the Rant. :lol
 
In all serious nes the nes really birthed 2-d gaming with scrolling screens.
It was all about Super Mario Bros. In my childhood.
 
I'm thinking the Revolution is something along the lines of
the talking computer in Paper Mario: TTYD
, but with a touch screen.
 
Just out of curiosity, what's more offensive.

Someone who considers the NES to be the birth of 2D gaming, or one who considers the Playstation 1 to be the birth of gaming, period? :D
 
MrparisSM said:
one girl said she didn't want one because it seemed too complicated. I then let her try mine with the Slingshot game from Mario and she was floored. I've had grown men that never owned a console love that little mini-game.
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My point exactly. This alone if harnassed could make all the trolling in the world fade away as sales skyrocket. This is the new market that Nintendo can hit hard.

I've seen it for myself this Thanksgiving as my non-gamer relatives have fell in love with and already purchased 3 DS' since playing the Mario minis and Feel the Magic.
 
KinesisKoncrite said:
In all serious nes the nes really birthed 2-d gaming with scrolling screens.
It was all about Super Mario Bros. In my childhood.
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Are you talking about parallax scrolling (scrolling backgrounds under foreground scrolling at different rate)? If so, you're about a generation late :)
 
Mejilan said:
Just out of curiosity, what's more offensive.

Someone who considers the NES to be the birth of 2D gaming, or one who considers the Playstation 1 to be the birth of gaming, period? :D
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The NES generation can be considered the "Great Generation", any way you look at it. As a matter of fact, the whole non-3D period of time from 1985-1995 was pure bliss.
 
KinesisKoncrite said:
In all serious nes the nes really birthed 2-d gaming with scrolling screens.
It was all about Super Mario Bros. In my childhood.
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So because it had scrolling screens (there were scrolling screens before the NES) and because SMB was popular when you were a kid, it was the birth of 2-d gaming? UGH!
 
Some of you people are complete idiots. The NES DID NOT birth 2D gaming.

Anyone who said that should be fucking shot, skinned, and hanged.
 
perhaps but what were there one or two games that had limited screen scrolling.
SMB 1 was larger than all of them but yes i've been sonned.
As for non gaming relatives buying three ds's lucky bastards!!!
I can't get my hands on one in my area they sell out at everystore within an hr
 
I don't think the NES gave birth to anything that I can recall (well, other than a slew of great Nintendo franchises), but I know it was a damn big deal relative to past and even future generations. Just about every gamer had an NES. The same cannot be said of any one platform today.
 
Speevy said:
The NES generation can be considered the "Great Generation", any way you look at it.
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Whatever. Older gamers can say the same thing about the atari 2600 generation.

As a matter of fact, the whole non-3D period of time from 1985-1995 was pure bliss.
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And it suddenly went downhill when it went 3D? -insert massive rolleyes smily here-
 
Born in 85, thinks the NES gave birth to 2D gaming (which, if I'm not mistaken, means it gave birth to gaming period, since no previous "D" existed), and calls the rest of us "children." Nice!
 
Personally, gaming became great for me too, with the NES. I played quite a bit of Atari and Colecovision in my time, and even owned a Commodore system or two, but the NES was what converted me.

THAT'S STILL no cause to call it the birth of gaming anything, unless, of course, you call it the birth of my gaming passion. :)
 
Pimpbaa said:
Whatever. Older gamers can say the same thing about the atari 2600 generation.
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Sure. That doesn't make the NES generation any less consequential for those of us now in our early 20's. You played Asterioids. We played Mario. Thankfully the NES didn't lead to ET at its end.



And it suddenly went downhill when it went 3D? -insert massive rolleyes smily here-
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Nope. 3D is great. I was just a big fan of the whole 2D era, especially the SNES/Genesis one. You presume far too much about what I think.
 
Speevy said:
I don't think the NES gave birth to anything that I can recall (well, other than a slew of great Nintendo franchises), but I know it was a damn big deal relative to past and even future generations. Just about every gamer had an NES. The same cannot be said of any one platform today.
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Of course every gamer had a NES. They had no real competition back then, unlike now.
 
Speevy said:
Nope. 3D is great. I was just a big fan of the whole 2D era, especially the SNES/Genesis one. You presume far too much about what I think.
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Sorry, there are a lot of 2D only freaks in here, thought you were one of them.
 
Get your facts straight, people. The Atari and other systems before the NES were 1D. Oh, but what a blissful era it was for 1D gaming.
 
The NES, Super Mario Bros. specifically, gave birth to 2D gaming as we know. Get your heads out of your butts and realize this.
 
Ecrofirt said:
maybe you need to get your head out of your ass. I'm ashamed you're born in the same month and year that I am.
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You may be right, I probably am blind to certain things; but to be frank, I still see a problem. NES put video games into the mainstream and, for all intents and purposes, was the first really popular 2D console. This is what I'm talking about. Anyway, that's not the point; the question comes from whether or not we should be satisfied with a more powerful 3D system as opposed to something completley new.

At any rate, many people are born in mid-November because parents tend to have sex nine months before that (Valentine's).
 
missAran said:
NES put video games into the mainstream and, for all intents and purposes, was the first really popular 2D console.
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Wow, the atari 2600 wasn't popular? News to me.
 
missAran said:
You may be right, I probably am blind to certain things; but to be frank, I still see a problem. NES put video games into the mainstream and, for all intents and purposes, was the first really popular 2D console. This is what I'm talking about. Anyway, that's not the point; the question comes from whether or not we should be satisfied with a more powerful 3D system as opposed to something completley new.

At any rate, many people are born in mid-November because parents tend to have sex nine months before that (Valentine's).
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Video games just became (much) more mainstream. They were always somewhat mainstream, but much more in the arcade sector than with consoles.
 
Ecrofirt said:
it's obvious missAran knows nothing of gaming.

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"Tee hee hee, I birthed video games!"
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True, But I would argue said pictured person had a huge influence on the direction games took, and where they are today.
 
missAran said:
NES put video games into the mainstream
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25 million Atari 2600s were sold in the US alone. Not to mention all the millions of Intellivisions, Colecovisions, C64s and other consoles, or the massive explosion that was the late 70s/early 80s arcade scene.

You're really stupid, moreso for becoming even more insistent and belligerent when corrected than for saying it in the first place. You're just plain wrong!
 
bobbyconover said:
25 million Atari 2600s were sold in the US alone. Not to mention all the millions of Intellivisions, Colecovisions, C64s and other consoles, or the massive explosion that was the late 70s/early 80s arcade scene.

You're really stupid, moreso for becoming even more insistent and belligerent when corrected than for saying it in the first place. You're just plain wrong!
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If they were so popular?... then why was gaming about to crash then?... Gaming was about died with home conconsoles, until nintendo saved it, And gave birth to gaming as we know it...
 
The 'crash' was simply a) Market Saturation of shovelware and b) Poor management at Atari.

Atari actually had the oppurtunity to distribute the NES in America -- and passed it up.
 
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