East Coast Throwdown 3 | Fighting game tournament | June 25-26

Sblargh said:
at times?
Fine, a lot of the times.

To make the game fun again, they just really need to remove damage increase for Phoenix in x-factor and remove speed boost for Wolverine in x-factor.

And probably if Capcom cares on any semblance of balance, reduce Wesker's health.
 
"Hit him with the ashy foot special into ghetto shinkuu"

"Look, his feet so ashy it's creating electricity"

I'm fucking dying over here. :lol
 
Arde5643 said:
Goddamnit, Phoenix is so fucking stupid - they really need to patch out her damage in x-factor.

That and also patch out Wolverine's speed boost so it won't stack with x-factor.

Goddamn MVC3 is so fucking dumb at times.
Wolverine and Wesker are bigger problems than Phoenix.
 
AzureJericho said:
This Phoenix reminds me, for Marvel-GAF in here, I was thinking about a different way to change Phoenix/Dark Phoenix recently. What if they gave normal Phoenix like 700K health and made it so that after beating out 500K of it, if she still had those 5 bars, she'd change into DP mode and go through the same speed health drain until she hit zero at which point, she burns out for the KO? Basically make it so it's a short span burn instead of allowing DP to take advantage of X-Factor healing and a second full health bar on top of her insane damage buff. (Of course other things can be changed, but I just thought this was a cool little idea. :P)
Hmm. This is another way of looking at it, but then this would basically like giving Phoenix 500k health anyway (close to current health) and then giving DP only 200K health + red life. Someone earlier suggested 600K for Phoenix and 200k for DP in the Marvel thread earlier. It's a possibility, but the speed/damage X-Factor nerf is what I go back on every single time.

Phoenix is not the problem folks, its X-FACTOR.
 
AzureJericho said:
"Hit him with the ashy foot special into ghetto shinkuu"

"Look, his feet so ashy it's creating electricity"

I'm fucking dying over here. :lol
That was hilarious.

Jaha on the mic. Aww yeah.

One thing I love about Sp00ky streams is he actually bothers to update the scores between the two players throughout the set.

Haggar is IN THERE.
 
enzo_gt said:
Hmm. This is another way of looking at it, but then this would basically like giving Phoenix 500k health anyway (close to current health) and then giving DP only 200K health + red life. Someone earlier suggested 600K for Phoenix and 200k for DP in the Marvel thread earlier. It's a possibility, but the speed/damage X-Factor nerf is what I go back on every single time.

Phoenix is not the problem folks, its X-FACTOR.

I agree with the idea that X-Factor needs some re-evaluation (though in all seriousness I hope the toning/retooling doesn't remove some of the more stupid hype things that exist or can be discovered), but I just realized that I forgot to mention something with that idea, DP wouldn't keep any red health lost as Phoenix (due to Healing Field being so fucking good on her).
 
MvC3 has the biggest cast of unused characters I've ever seen

You never see Felicia, Hsien, Morrigan, Arthur, Haggar, MODOK, Spiderman, Capt. America, Thor, Deadpool, Super Skrull, Chun Li, Joe, X23, Ryu, Chris, Iron Man, Hulk, or Viper in tournament play

Fun to watch, but sheer unbalanced trash
 
X26 said:
MvC3 has the biggest cast of unused characters I've ever seen

You never see Felicia, Hsien, Morrigan, Arthur, Haggar, MODOK, Spiderman, Capt. America, Thor, Deadpool, Super Skrull, Chun Li, Joe, X23, Ryu, Chris, Iron Man, Hulk, or Viper in tournament play

Fun to watch, but sheer unbalanced trash
DSF?
 
enzo_gt said:
Hmm. This is another way of looking at it, but then this would basically like giving Phoenix 500k health anyway (close to current health) and then giving DP only 200K health + red life. Someone earlier suggested 600K for Phoenix and 200k for DP in the Marvel thread earlier. It's a possibility, but the speed/damage X-Factor nerf is what I go back on every single time.

Phoenix is not the problem folks, its X-FACTOR.

Dark Phoenix can get 1,200,000 BNBs out of x-factor and has 1 character 50/50 mix-ups from traps/fireballs. She's broken without x-factor and she'd be broken if she had 200k HP.

You can argue X-factor leads to characters like Wolvie or Wesker being broke but Dark Phoenix is flat out broke on her own.
 
X26 said:
MvC3 has the biggest cast of unused characters I've ever seen

You never see Felicia, Hsien, Morrigan, Arthur, Haggar, MODOK, Spiderman, Capt. America, Thor, Deadpool, Super Skrull, Chun Li, Joe, X23, Ryu, Chris, Iron Man, Hulk, or Viper in tournament play

Fun to watch, but sheer unbalanced trash
I see you never watched high level MVC2 tourney.
 
X26 said:
MvC3 has the biggest cast of unused characters I've ever seen

You never see Felicia, Hsien, Morrigan, Arthur, Haggar, MODOK, Spiderman, Capt. America, Thor, Deadpool, Super Skrull, Chun Li, Joe, X23, Ryu, Chris, Iron Man, Hulk, or Viper in tournament play

Fun to watch, but sheer unbalanced trash

I've seen pretty much all those characters used in tourneys, though not as much as I'd like.
 
striKeVillain! said:
What's up the Jaha hate? Haven't seen him commentate before for what it's worth.

At 8 on the Break Jaha "commentating" consists of him saying three catchphrases one hundred times and doing a bizarre dance.
 
X26 said:
MvC3 has the biggest cast of unused characters I've ever seen

You never see Hsien, MODOK, Thor, or Chun Li in tournament play

Fun to watch, but sheer unbalanced trash
Fixed your list for accuracy. Never watched MvC2 either huh? I love MvC3 being unbalanced. That's what makes Marvel more interesting to watch.

edit: Beaten.

AND WE GOT A PERFECT.
 
X26 said:
MvC3 has the biggest cast of unused characters I've ever seen

You never see Felicia, Hsien, Morrigan, Arthur, Haggar, MODOK, Spiderman, Capt. America, Thor, Deadpool, Super Skrull, Chun Li, Joe, X23, Ryu, Chris, Iron Man, Hulk, or Viper in tournament play

Fun to watch, but sheer unbalanced trash
Ive never seen anyone play with her in my life to be honest.
 
X26 said:
MvC3 has the biggest cast of unused characters I've ever seen

You never see Felicia, Hsien, Morrigan, Arthur, Haggar, MODOK, Spiderman, Capt. America, Thor, Deadpool, Super Skrull, Chun Li, Joe, X23, Ryu, Chris, Iron Man, Hulk, or Viper in tournament play

Fun to watch, but sheer unbalanced trash
Hulk and Thor are used by Mike Ross. Iron Man, Haggar, Skrull, Viper and X-23 are seen fairly often, and there are a couple Viper players that always place when they play.
 
abstract alien said:
Ive never seen anyone play with her in my life to be honest.
Justin Wong.

The number of Vipers is like 3 and steadily increasing, but c'mon, fucking MARLINPIE representing.

Oh and look at that, CapAm and Hulk are IN THERE.
 
My team is Arthur, MODOK, and V. Joe. That alone probably explains why I'm terrible, but I don't give a damn.

enzo_gt said:
Justin Wong.
Hmmmm, I don't think I saw him use her last time he played. He does jump all over the board on fighting games though, so I believe it.
 
X26 said:
MvC3 has the biggest cast of unused characters I've ever seen

You never see Felicia, Hsien, Morrigan, Arthur, Haggar, MODOK, Spiderman, Capt. America, Thor, Deadpool, Super Skrull, Chun Li, Joe, X23, Ryu, Chris, Iron Man, Hulk, or Viper in tournament play

Fun to watch, but sheer unbalanced trash

So far today of the ones you mention I've seen Haggar, Deadpool, Skrull, and Ironman. I've also seen teams that use Cpt A, Spiderman, Hulk, Thor, and Viper in tournament play. So you're kind of off base.
 
Surprisingly, Sp00ky is one of the better Marvel commentators. He has a fairly decent knowledgebase about the game, and knows a ton of the ins and outs.

Is this guy on the mic the same one who said "I'm about to slap my grandmother!"
 
abstract alien said:
Ive never seen anyone play with her in my life to be honest.

I forgot the name of the event but waaaaay back in the MvC3 "urley" scene there was that guy Zucco who used her with Morrigan & Taskmaster versus Team Scooby (Wesker [Fred], Phoenix [Daphne], Ammy [Scooby]). Shit was so crazy, Team Zombie Night for life. :lol
 
enzo_gt said:
Fixed your list for accuracy. Never watched MvC2 either huh? I love MvC3 being unbalanced. That's what makes Marvel more interesting to watch.

Nah think my list is pretty accurate as is
 
abstract alien said:
Hmmmm, I don't think I saw him use her last time he played. He does jump all over the board on fighting games though, so I believe it.
It was a troll match when someone bet him to play using the worst team and he did, and did fairly decent too, using MODOK/Hsien-Ko/Thor. Fairly decent for that team anyways. But there are 3-4 Hsien-Ko's out there. One was at a tournament a month or two ago and had some crazy setups that made everyone get hype.

X26 said:
Nah think my list is pretty accurate as is
It's not accurate because you haven't really watched much MvC3 at all from what you came up with. I mean, you even put Haggar on that list. Oh and a Chun-Li is playing right now too.
 
X26 said:
MvC3 has the biggest cast of unused characters I've ever seen

You never see Felicia, Hsien, Morrigan, Arthur, Haggar, MODOK, Spiderman, Capt. America, Thor, Deadpool, Super Skrull, Chun Li, Joe, X23, Ryu, Chris, Iron Man, Hulk, or Viper in tournament play

Fun to watch, but sheer unbalanced trash
Viper, IM, Chris, Ryu, Felicia, Morrigan, Hsien Ko, Haggar, Deadpool, Skrull, and X23 get used. Viper only has a few guys who are really good with her, but she gets used. Watch Marlin Pie and get back to us.
 
abstract alien said:
My team is Arthur, MODOK, and V. Joe. That alone probably explains why I'm terrible, but I don't give a damn.


Hmmmm, I don't think I saw him use her last time he played. He does jump all over the board on fighting games though, so I believe it.
For the first couple months the game was out, Wong used a different team every week at WNF. It was cool to watch.

How about making it so if you use X-Factor, the other guy gets some free meter?
 
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