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EDGE: The next Xbox: Always online, no second-hand games, 50GB Blu-ray and new kinect
- Thread starter Hanmik
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lowrider007
Licorice-flavoured booze?
I'm surprised how many people think this would spell the end for MS and Sony in the console market if such security measures were to be implemented, provided both consoles had the same restrictions I don't think this would have much of an impact tbh.
Kabuki Waq
Member
I hope i am able to take my fighters over to my friends house to play atleast
Their entire business model is centered around buying and selling used games and not selling new hardware so yeah, they will close up shop.
ChosenPredator
Banned
Always online doesn't really bug me to much since my pc is always online too lol
Tripp Daily
Member
You lost me. How are developers losing money when companies such as Gamestop are giving out trade? That 1.8 billion is going towards new games which is healthy for the developers and publishers, correct?
megashock5
Member
So, twenty years from now when you want to play an "old" Durango game and the servers to check your ID are no longer running - is the game unlocked or is it a coaster?
But yeah, it would suck if you couldn't play because your ISP happened to be down for some reason.
But yeah, it would suck if you couldn't play because your ISP happened to be down for some reason.
Some games will always sell. If EA says I'm taking my FIFA to x3, Sony will have to bend over backwards. Same with Activision and COD. And if X3 has fifa & COD and Sony does not, that's probably it for Sony, no? billion dollar franchisees and all that.
rudieboy77
Member
So many rumors... We will see how many were true. If the used games provision is true it will make my decision to play on PC only easier. I can't imagine one console will do it and not the other.
Not a pretence that it won't happen (no matter how much trollishness you try to interpret in my previous post), but a statement of opinion that it won't simply be a case of one party going that route, when the consequences would be devastating.
lowrider007
Licorice-flavoured booze?
No chance publishers would forfeit that kind of money, could you really see Activision only releasing COD on one system if Sony choose not to implement the same restrictions?
If the other one does it too, I will only wish the same level of failure and disaster that way, too. There is such a pandora's box with this that no genuinely intelligent consumer should be fine with this for the console space. Period.
Gunmonkey36
Member
Hmm always online you say?
No second sales you say?
To kick consumers while they are done further MS will probably still be charging for xbox live.
I wonder what implications this will have for services like redbox and gamefly if any (other than the obvious they won't be able to stock durango titles).
No second sales you say?
To kick consumers while they are done further MS will probably still be charging for xbox live.
I wonder what implications this will have for services like redbox and gamefly if any (other than the obvious they won't be able to stock durango titles).
ChosenPredator
Banned
Thinking about it though always online for other places around the world are going to simply cripple MS, it's pretty stupid if they do it, I don't think their that dumb. (I hope)
OldJadedGamer
Banned
I would seriously consider a WiiU only gaming at that point.
If both go in, consumers will have to deal with it. yes.
IrishNinja
Member
so they'd pass up on possibly the largest system/base - one with likely similar specs as the durango, minimizing the cost of porting - because why, if you cant keep 100% of the profits, you'll pass on something like 70%? not seeing the logic here
now if you wanna argue they'll continue treating MS' system as the primary development one, yeah that could happen
this is always a question with DD services, but as a consumer, i feel better with valve because they're not going anywhere, and i can strip out the DRM from my purchases as i please. but yeah, neither of those look to be true here
Conrad Link
Member
I really hope not, I enjoyed my 360 immensely this gen and it was my main 'HD' console.
I planned to go with its successor next gen too over PS4 (until an exclusive hits on PS4 I had to have then I'll have all 3 consoles
) but if these silly things end up being true I wont be looking at the new Xbox.
I planned to go with its successor next gen too over PS4 (until an exclusive hits on PS4 I had to have then I'll have all 3 consoles
) but if these silly things end up being true I wont be looking at the new Xbox.Laws and Europe, man. How does it work?
MikeE21286
Member
Does this feel like a controlled leak?
It kinda feels like a controlled leak....
It kinda feels like a controlled leak....
shira
Member
What if your wifi went down. The box shuts down.
ha ha. yes.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
If it's "always online" then I expect some kind of Offline mode. You cannot make a console with a large userbase being children and expect it to always be connected to the internet. US from what iv seen has terrible bandwidth caps an always online anything is a detriment to this.
No second hand games on the other had is something I fully expect. Its a real shame but I won't be effected because I only buy new. Still I do not condone it.
My guess is Always Online has been taken out of context. It could be as simple as games benefit from having an internet connection.
No second hand games on the other had is something I fully expect. Its a real shame but I won't be effected because I only buy new. Still I do not condone it.
My guess is Always Online has been taken out of context. It could be as simple as games benefit from having an internet connection.
metalslimer
Member
If both companies seriously went anti used games, I honestly think we would see a videogame market crash and the end of console gaming.
dragonfart28
Banned
Activation codes are the new friend codes.
And then a myriad of Steamboxes will enter the fray...
Oh.. I see no malice in your post whatsoever. I rather agree with you emphatically.
We've known about the possibility of always-online and anti-secondhand technologies for, what, over a year now? I wonder if EDGE has new information that's leading them to believe they'll be implemented, or if they're just combining the nearly-confirmed specs with old rumors deciding to kick the hornet's nest. It would be awfully Kotaku-like of them, but I wouldn't rule it out.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Think back to Bobby Koticks comments about Sony early on in the gen.
j0hnny_385
Member
Said so myself. MS testing the outcry.
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
I have bought the total amount of 0 secondhand games this gen. But I exchange (borrow) alot of games among friends, so does this mean I am screwed too?
quickwhips
Member
I'm not for taking away the used market but how is this different than the pc market now? You can't resell pc games at gamestop or bestbuy...Because I hear most people saying they will stick with pc but its the same there pretty much with just a better steam sell?
Ken Masters
Banned
Why are people acting like publishers aren't very happy with this news
Who?
I'd be happy with that if I didn't have to put the disc in again to play a game.
I would like a system where I could get a disc of a game to install it to a HDD (as it helps save on my bandwidth usage, but I would still like updates to happen over the net and I'm mostly OK with them being somewhat large), put the disc away and play it without the disc.
When I am done with it I could uninstall it but if I want to play it again I could get the disc and reinstall it.
I don't really buy 2nd hand games (I think I have bought 2 for my 360 this gen) so although it sounds kind of crappy I can live without it (but I won't be too happy about it).
The only thing I don't like is always on DRM as I can't guarantee my net connection being up and running 24/7. I'd be OK with it having to be online to activate the game once to register an activation code and getting a license for the console and for the Xbox Live account but to have to always be on seems way to harsh.
Manmademan
Member
exactly. used games don't come from thin air. someone traded that in, meaning Gamestop either paid that individual for it, or more likely offered store credit for newer games. when Gamestop does this it takes a hit on the sale of a new game it bought from the publisher at full price.
the used games model subsidizes the new game business. end it and watch the sales of 60 dollar games fall off a cliff.
metalslimer
Member
Exactly, plus the PC used market was never big to begin with.
Take away used games and I guarantee you people will just stick with the PS3/360. I'm sure Nintendo is hoping to god they try something like this though.
Ken Masters
Banned
Every publisher ever who get $0 from used sales
IrishNinja
Member
Audioboxer
Member
PC games are much cheaper and with pretty much the whole catalogue being available digitally as well, you do not end up with 'rare' Japanese/Eastern importing needed for some titles. These titles can have low prints, meaning importing new isn't always an option.
I've imported a few PS3 games.
Perhaps one hardware generation later... perhaps... such measures could be implemented, but I honestly cannot see either company being so blind to the resulting effects in this climate. with this digital infrastructure, at this time, as to try to enforce such dystopic draconian restrictions.