WickedLaharl
Member
Will not believe no used games and always online until it comes for the horses mouth because I'd go insane in the mean time
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EDGE: The next Xbox: Always online, no second-hand games, 50GB Blu-ray and new kinect
- Thread starter Hanmik
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This, I bought Genji 2 for the PS3 because I saw it for $5 used. I would never have bought it for anything higher than that. It was a sale at a used price or no sale at all.
Steam won´t agree with you.
Blueandigo
Banned
Why do people keep saying, "I hope Sony doesn't do this," "Sony better not do this." but these rumours are about the Xbox? If M$ does this, then obviously Sony is gonna make sure not to do it so they can cater to the fans.
Nemesis121
Member
Used games is worst than Piracy...
alexandros
Banned
SEGA partners with Valve and releases the Dreambox! Half-Life 3 and Shenmue 3 launch games!
MisterSamMan
Member
Looks like I can't sell my used games. I really hope Microsoft will support day one digital downloads because there is absolutely no reason to buy a physical copy anymore.
PsihoPerihelion
Member
Wasn't there a rumor about Sony doing this?
I buy my games new but this would totally kill the new Xbox if you add that supposedly the PS4 is more powerful.
Don't fuck it up MS. It's either your console or I retire from gaming.
I buy my games new but this would totally kill the new Xbox if you add that supposedly the PS4 is more powerful.
Don't fuck it up MS. It's either your console or I retire from gaming.
Some think that third parties will abandon Sony if it doesn't do it as well.
Investors works on the principal of if a company will grow. Several investors thinks that Microsoft has reached it's peak and will only transfer it's market, but not grow consistently. Investors has also started to think the same about Apple.
The value of a shares is only as high as brokers are willing to pay for.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
LOL, no.
lmao...
Its true, I'm sure the same was said for the PS3. All that Blu-ray mumbo-jumbo
Example
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=2662
In an ideal world... the publisher of Genji would see that its not selling at full price, and reduce it until it hits a point where people are more okay with impulse buying it. Currently they can't do that BECAUSE of used games sales.
Not that easy if 3rd parties have both console makers at gunpoint making sure both follow.
Otherwise the next COD will not come out on one system.
There's no way this is true though the more I think about it. Gamestop is practically doomed if Sony and Microsoft go in together on this no used games stuff, and I don't think it benefits them enough to lost all the advertising from Gamestop, the specials, consoles sold there, etc.
I mean if this is true, this is it for Gamestop. Obviously it can't stand on just new hardware and software sales alone, and it's definitely not getting that much revenue from the Wii U, and likely never will, so this would be it. I just don't see this happening right now. It doesn't make business sense.
I mean if this is true, this is it for Gamestop. Obviously it can't stand on just new hardware and software sales alone, and it's definitely not getting that much revenue from the Wii U, and likely never will, so this would be it. I just don't see this happening right now. It doesn't make business sense.
AkimbO_Arcana
Banned
Bad, if true? yes. Dealbreaker? no.
If the exclusive software is there, sadly I will be too. For me this is much more of a reason to be worried about because of the gaming ghetto that is 360 since 2010.
If the exclusive software is there, sadly I will be too. For me this is much more of a reason to be worried about because of the gaming ghetto that is 360 since 2010.
theignoramus
Member
that mandatory connectivity shit is BS, you should only have to do that once to activate the game. Now you cant take your shit anywhere w/o a reliable internet connection. It aint even really like that on PC, minus a few Ubisoft or EA games.
What about those specs though, how good is their shit? How does it compare to say, a gtx 580?
What about those specs though, how good is their shit? How does it compare to say, a gtx 580?
You cannot rent PC games though...
Of course the PC does this. And it's why people say "Will wait for Steam sale." There's nothing wrong with DD (it's awesome), but only if priced accordingly. Considering the monopoly MS and Sony have with consoles, is this going to happen? Are they going to routinely have slash and burn sales? Is there going to be a GMG equivalent that allows you to pre-order most games at almost half off? It's reasonable to be skeptical of this.
Consoles wars bruh.
alexandros
Banned
On PC you always have a choice. For every Diablo III that tries to enforce always-on DRM, you have a Torchlight 2 that says "yeah, f that". Hell, there are stores that only carry DRM-free games! (gog.com)
Mr. Pointy
Member
[hyperbole]If Microsoft go ahead with this always on thing and both Sony and Microsoft run with second-hand game lockouts, Nintendo will have won next-gen by default.[/hyperbole]
Quick question - do the publishers of books, CDs, DVDs and Blu Rays get a percentage of second hand sales from places like Amazon, CeX etc? I was under the impression that they didn't.
If they don't, what makes games publishers think they are entitled to extra money from second hand sales?
If they don't, what makes games publishers think they are entitled to extra money from second hand sales?
The more I think about it, the more insulted I feel. It is like they are treating consumers who buy/have bought used games as pirates.
You bought a used copy of Torchlight?
If anyone thinks for a moment that Sony will not be following suit (provided XB3 really does allow people to not play second hand games) then he/she may be setting him/herself for disappointment. I think this comes courtesy of third parties negotiating with both the manufacturers to root out the second hand business much like it is with the PC platform.
This could mean earlier fall in game prices. And while it is unfortunate, I'd rather my money go to publishers. But the always online part is the one that I am shaking my head at in disbelief.
This could mean earlier fall in game prices. And while it is unfortunate, I'd rather my money go to publishers. But the always online part is the one that I am shaking my head at in disbelief.
SteveWinwood
Member
Where do you people come from?
And the 360 lead has nothing on the PS2 lead. I was convinced Sony could almost literally throw shit on a platter and sell it to everyone, but that wasn't the case this gen at all, even in the markets they did win they weren't ahead of the Wii IIRC. So it's very plausible that the mainstream gets inconvinenced, or they throw an absurd price tag on top, and have everything completely ruined.
There's been rumors for a long time about Sony blocking out used games, with the patents to back it up. Someone actually taking that step could embolden them.
And the more I think about it, I think the always online may be a bigger deal breaker for me. It almost seems like a digital switch over is all but inevitable, but you don't necessarily need to STAY online for that as iDevices readily show, even Steam has an offline mode or at least won't flip out if the connection's lost. Here, it's just overkill or an absurd fear of piracy when XBL as it is now should be enough to deter most people.
The game creators got their fair cut the moment they sold the copy of the game to the retailer and the first buyer paid retail price for it.
That first buyer covered the creator's share, whether he keeps the game himself forever or whether he sells it on to someone else. The creator was paid for one copy of the game. How many hands it passes through during its lifetime is completely irrelevant.
ProtomanNeo
Member
I'd consider it if Xbox live were free, and we see a severe, I mean SEVERE mark down in the price games.
Glass Rebel
Member
Great minds think alike. I want it to be named SteamCast though.
I see a lot of people are saying pc does this already with steam and origin, well the big difference for me is the pricing structure, ms and Sony seem to charge ridiculous amounts for digital downloads, where as £30 is the norm for a brand new pc game.
If the games were to be priced £30 brand new on the next Xbox/ps, then fine. Just don't try and charge me £50.
If the games were to be priced £30 brand new on the next Xbox/ps, then fine. Just don't try and charge me £50.
Metalmurphy
Member
There's absolutely no way this is happening.
Aquamarine
Member
Spotty WiFi is a surprisingly pervasive problem. I know I've always had a problem with it (from living in extremely-rural areas to living in old buildings with ancient wiring).
And what about the people with DATA CAPS, god forbid? Good luck keeping your console online 24/7 when you have a 20 GB / per month cap to deal with.
phosphor112
Banned
I'm still skeptical that they'd do such a thing, but MS has been replaced by a bunch of money eating whores.
I certainly hope it isn't for the industries sake.
I certainly hope it isn't for the industries sake.
legacyzero
Banned
Not happening MS.