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EDGE: The next Xbox: Always online, no second-hand games, 50GB Blu-ray and new kinect

Gregorn

Member
Imagine seeing this..

Assassin's Creed IV PS4 (used) - $10
Assassin's Creed IV Xbox+ (New) - $60

Lol Microsoft is over shut it down
 
Full price all of the time? You're still going to see discounts at retail, just as we do now. Games are often half their price in 4 months these days.

can you imagine buying madden 2016, and not being able to trade it in or sell it when madden 2017 comes out?

or buying Call of Duty: modern warfare 9 and being stuck with a game that is broken and has unbalanced online play?
 
If both of them pull this crap then I'm going PC+WiiU+handheld exclusive. I could stomach it on PC because I'm not forced to pay $60 (probably $70 for next-gen) for every game.

By some people's logic, WiiU will also be pressured by third parties into doing so.
Then handheld, then EVERYTHING.
 
Steam hasn't had good prices for the last couple years, if you really want better prices buy from GreenMan, Amazon, etc, which are just online stores with no DRM client attached

Evidently, you've never tried GMG's Capsule. :barf

Amazon's "must use our small downloader to download your game" isn't great either (although admittedly Gamersgate & GetGames use a similar system for their non-Steamworks games).
 
It isn't that different seeing as how MS still hasn't publicly acknowledged the existence of the new xbox.

It is different because a rumor that comes out 2 years prior to your new console releasing carries a lot less weight.

A rumor coming out week, or months prior to unveiling it, that is totally and completely false? You're going to want to shut down that negative talk immediately. If you don't that bad word of mouth is going to spread like wildfire, and even if it ends up not being true, you're still going to have people a year from now saying "Xbox doesn't let you play used games", etc.


This is a bad rumor, so if it wasn't true at all, you'd want everyone to know that ASAP. Waiting a few months to deny it isn't a good idea.


It's also possible, albeit unlikely, that Microsoft is still not 100% committed to this, and they in fact want to see how people online react to the news. So this could be a test bed for them, and maybe they change their mind soon. Either way the time for big decisions like this to be locked in is fast approaching. Neither company is going to make any big changes beyond March.
 
If MS does it, no way Sony doesn't.

Welcome to the future. You can thank valve

Screw Valve. I still don't believe this rumor. If this is true, MS will miss lots of sales, because not everyone does have a good Internet connection. One of my mate plays only off-line (xbox360)

-1 (for him if true)
MS + Sony will ban second games & must connect to internet =bad for the consumers
 

U2NUMB

Member
So we are all expecting MS and maybe even Sony to deny reports on a product they have not even announced yet? The bigger this gets the more interesting things are going to get but again MS has not even said a word about this system.
 

Alucrid

Banned
Steam hasn't had good prices for the last couple years, if you really want better prices buy from GreenMan, Amazon, etc, which are just online stores with no DRM client attached

it was a joke

i also don't trust green men after choking on the green giant's canned vegetables as a kid.

i also activate all my gmg and amazon purchases on steam

bazonga
 

SmokyDave

Member
Meanwhile at Nintendo they're watching the launch of their actually released, non-rumored console, bomb the world over.

disbebad.gif

They'll be shit out of luck with 3rd parties in the event that Sony are also doing this.

I'm not seeing how this is a good thing for Nintendo.
 
How would he be fired for breaking NDA, if what he was responding to was in fact bullshit?

Microsoft hasn't even acknowledged there is a new console. It's not some developer's job to confirm or deny a rumor. That's Microsoft's job, and based on their response, the rumor doesn't bother them at all. They're sticking to their plan of saying nothing until release, it appears.

They'll be shit out of luck with 3rd parties in the event that Sony are also doing this.

I'm not seeing how this is a good thing for Nintendo.

Exactly. Not having used game sales isn't going to make third parties hate Sony/Microsoft. It's going to make them embrace those companies tighter.

wii u is still best console launch besides the wii.


FACT.

That certainly explains Nintendo dropping sales forecasts for it by over a million consoles over the next 2 months.
 

JoexBLU

Banned
"Sony’s next-generation console camera system is said to have a similar set of features"

The new generation does not start and Sony has already started to copy the Microsoft.

Next:

PS4 SmartGlass

PS4 Illumination Room

PS4 Glasses
 

LastNac

Member
kaz2.gif

No, I still think the larger Market as a whole won't care about PC.
 

MrBig

Member
Evidently, you've never tried GMG's Capsule. :barf

I really haven't used GMG since it first started up as I haven't bought many games. What exactly does it do? From what I read it's just a downloading client and games can just be played outside of it without issue, which is not normally possible with steam
 

Basch

Member
I honestly don't mind because I never buy used anyways. Besides, I'm switching to primarily a digital future with few physical releases used solely for display purposes. But video games are the worst to display because the layout designs often change anyway (they clash with not only each other but other systems physical releases as well).
 

Daschysta

Member
Sounds like it will suck.

Kinect driving up the price unnecessarily, which also, by the way, almost ensures some of the rumoured new IP's are kinectcentric crap, and killing used games is a complete bummer too. Glad I never seriously planned on purchasing one.
 
By some people's logic, WiiU will also be pressured by third parties into doing so.
Then handheld, then EVERYTHING.

How will 3rd parties pressure Wii U into doing so when, for the most part, they aren't really supporting the system to begin with? Also, if 3rd parties wanted to do it then technically they could do like Tecmo Koei with Ken's Rage 2 and only release it on the eShop, where no one can re-sale it. Granted, I'm sure MS/Sony will have similar options if 3rd parties choose to use it.
 

Ding-Ding

Member
Microsoft hasn't even acknowledged there is a new console. It's not some developer's job to confirm or deny a rumor. That's Microsoft's job, and based on their response, the rumor doesn't bother them at all. They're sticking to their plan of saying nothing until release, it appears.

If thats the case, why has he commented on the article, twice?
 

Boss Man

Member
Never understood why people are so against this. Always online is not a problem whatsoever in this day and age. I don't think my Internet connection has gone off in like 2 years. No second-hand games, well Steam has been doing it for years.
Yeah I know, it's hard to understand why something that doesn't effect you may effect other people.
 
This really sounds awful between the lack of second hand games and the focus on casual gaming taking away from the power of the system. I knew casual gaming would be a focus, I was just hoping it wouldn't hurt core gaming.
 

pvpness

Member
Dude, I wouldn't be able to donate my old games to poor kids anymore and that's fucking bullshit. Not to mention gifting to buddies/fam. Greedy fucks. The video game audience isn't the 20 million that buy day 1, it's the 180 million that buy when they can. Killing the second hand market is terrible business. The saddest part to me is that many gamers would support this trash.
 

Hattori

Banned
You can already tell where people stand in the upcoming console wars, lots of finger pointing, justigication of a wrong with another, it's very entertaining xD
 
As someone who doesn't read as much gaming rumors/news sites as the rest of the gaming forum, do you have examples of this?

Isn't Digital Foundry part of Edge? And aren't they constantly being accused of having a Microsoft bias? If someone on the Internet tells you a media outlet is biased against a console, you can bet money that person is in love with the company that makes said console. Maybe that's Eurogamer. Hard to keep track of which sites are supposedly biased against which console.
 

Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
Nintendo fans mad up in here.

Nintendo will be forced to do it too by publishers. If they refuse they get less (lol) 3rd party support than they have now.
 

Bgamer90

Banned
It is different because a rumor that comes out 2 years prior to your new console releasing carries a lot less weight.

A rumor coming out week, or months prior to unveiling it, that is totally and completely false? You're going to want to shut down that negative talk immediately. If you don't that bad word of mouth is going to spread like wildfire, and even if it ends up not being true, you're still going to have people a year from now saying "Xbox doesn't let you play used games", etc.


This is a bad rumor, so if it wasn't true at all, you'd want everyone to know that ASAP. Waiting a few months to deny it isn't a good idea.

It really doesn't matter if the console isn't available to buy. If it isn't true, all that MS needs to do is say, "...The console will let you play used games" when they reveal the console and boom... tons of major sites will report on that fact and people will see that this current rumor isn't true.

8-9 months is a relatively short amount of time BUT, there's still a ton of concrete info that hasn't been said at all about the new consoles.
 

I love this GIF and it makes me giggle every time I see it.

On topic; I approach the launch of a new console the same as I do a presidential election. The candidates, media and supporters are going to say all sorts of crazy you-know-what in the months leading up to election day. Some if it will be true and some of it won't. It is up to me not to overreact to every bit of information, rumor and report and take the facts as they come.

And lets be honest; we have few facts on either console in terms of power, ecosystem and games.
 

Skiesofwonder

Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
Same can be said of people who obvious really want to believe that it's true.

Please give me one valid reason (or source) to believe that Kotaku and Edge are making this up. Right now it seems much more likely to happen then not with two sources reporting on it and no outright denial from anyone else.
 

Boss Man

Member
wii u is still best console launch besides the wii.


FACT.
No it isn't. There neither was nor is hardly any interest surrounding the console. Didn't we just have a thread about Iwata speaking of its poor performance?

I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not though because almost every time someone on the Internet writes 'FACT.' it's either not a fact or meant to be a joke.
 
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