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[DaciaJC]

Have fun when you get there.

 

[Orbital2060]

The remebrances from the DLC can be duplicated at the walking castles in the main game. I just copied the putrescence token in the one south of the 4th church of marika in limgrave.

 

[FoxMcChief]

You need to go really deep down the catacombs. REALLY DEEP.

Thanks for the help. I’ll keep that in mind. That place was the next place on my list.

 

[Tomeru]

Don't think I've felt so much despair in a souls game boss quite like this one. I think I would take 10 times more Sekiro's Isshin than this one.

I had fun taking on lady butterfly and owl. Took a long time to beat them, but it was fun maibly because you move fas like they did, and you had more tools to do it logically.

With souls it has turned into feeling like you are fighting with a different set of rules from bosses.

But eh, it is what it is, bosses are no longer the focus of my playthroughs.

 

[Filben]

but it was fun maibly because you move fas like they did

Also, I really like the parry feature, both mechanically and visually; it just looks so cool.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Anyone know if the scadurtree fragments or whatever dumb name they have, carry over to new game +, like flasks do?

 

[Orbital2060]

Ive been trying out the bloodfiend arm, and the putrescent geeataxe, for a little while and maybe the arm does more damage. But I like the moveset of the axe, and its light on load.

 

[SJRB]

Beasts all over the shop.

 

[Pancakes and Sausage]

Anyone know if the scadurtree fragments or whatever dumb name they have, carry over to new game +, like flasks do?

Yes they do!

I have finished the DLC and then done a NG+ cycle and then finished the DLC again and can confirm that the fragments carry over

 

[Toytown Assassin]

Anyone know if the scadurtree fragments or whatever dumb name they have, carry over to new game +, like flasks do?

Yes

 

[TheDarkPhantom]

Wow at some of the stuff in here, FROM never disappoints with their well hidden secrets



Edit: and I'll add I discovered about a 1/3 of them on my own, I'm sure a lot more will be discovered as the weeks go on.

 

[Orbital2060]

Gaius down and out.

 

[Chiggs]

If anyone is encountering performance issues, I'd recommend taking a look at this video:



It's eliminated 90% of the issues I've encountered (small registry tweak and power setting adjustment).

Edit: don't let the stupid message above dissuade you from checking it out.

 

[BlueAlpaca]

Do you guys use just one weapon at a time? I went through the game with only Bloodhound Fang.

Starting a new playthrough and was thinking I still needed a bit of Faith for Golden Vow and such but came across a reddit comment saying it's better to put the golden vow ash of war on a dagger and not bother upgrading faith - felt like an idiot. Seems a lot easier. Switching multiple weapons during combat is a hassle but golden vow is only needed before so I guess I'll do that.

 

[SJRB]

Dude HOW are the Ruins of Rauh so confusing? This place is messing me up, everything looks the same.

Do you guys use just one weapon at a time? I went through the game with only Bloodhound Fang.

Starting a new playthrough and was thinking I still needed a bit of Faith for Golden Vow and such but came across a reddit comment saying it's better to put the golden vow ash of war on a dagger and not bother upgrading faith - felt like an idiot. Seems a lot easier. Switching multiple weapons during combat is a hassle but golden vow is only needed before so I guess I'll do that.

I'm still running with the Bloodhound Fang too, it's just too good. I tried several new DLC weapons but I keep coming back to it. Super strong and extremely reliable.

 

[Bartski]

this is great

 

[Clear]

I'm still running with the Bloodhound Fang too, it's just too good. I tried several new DLC weapons but I keep coming back to it. Super strong and extremely reliable.

Blasphemous blade seems better than ever to me too. Sure its lost the poise damage on Taker's flame, but appropriately buffed (Magma boosting charm) feels like more straight dps
Not even stacking Faith anymore on it, holding at 33 for Shabriri self-buff seems fine so can use other weapons when fire not the best.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Once you have your blessing to +10, all build from base game become relevant again.

 

[R6Rider]

Damn a lot of these bosses are fucking boring to fight.
Encounters while exploring are more fun while the boss fights are becoming more of an obstacle for the fun stuff.

 

[SJRB]

Wow Romina got absolutely assblasted, she never stood a chance.

Sucks that she didn't have a cutscene though.

So judging by her remembrance she created the Scarlet Rot? That's kinda wild.

Absolutely loving the lore in this DLC so far. Pristine stuff.

 

[Danjin44]

Encounters while exploring are more fun while the boss fights are becoming more of an obstacle for the fun stuff.

Are you serious? The boss fights were highlights for me, most of them super fun to fight with.

 

[FoxMcChief]

I tackled the golden hippo with my rivers of blood build with a blessings level of 8 and fucking wrecked it.

I’m now playing through the PS5 DLC instead of completing the Xbox DLC. I’m hitting all the areas way faster, now that I know where to go, and how to get there. Now that I’ve gone back to my Rivers of Blood build, I wonder if Mesmer will be easier too.

 

[Boralf]

Are you serious? The boss fights were highlights for me, most of them super fun to fight with.

They're all the same. Things that used to be gimmicks are now part of (almost) every boss fight: delayed attacks, second phase, gap closer, ranged attack, input reading, aftershocks, grab attack, big nuke attack etc. Therefore they don't really have any mechanical identity.

Also I feel like the gaps between the bosses are now feel less challenging and the bosses themselves are more challenging than in Dark Souls. Which makes the game have less flow and bosses can feel like an annoying roadblock.

 

[Danjin44]

They're all the same. Things that used to be gimmicks are now part of (almost) every boss fight: delayed attacks, second phase, gap closer, ranged attack, input reading, aftershocks, grab attack, big nuke attack etc. Therefore they don't really have any mechanical identity.

Also I feel like the gaps between the bosses are now feel less challenging and the bosses themselves are more challenging than in Dark Souls. Which makes the game have less flow and bosses can feel like an annoying roadblock.

I don’t know for me each boss felt different and I need come up with strategy to beat them, especially when it comes movement and animation.

 

[Bloobs]

Wow at some of the stuff in here, FROM never disappoints with their well hidden secrets



Edit: and I'll add I discovered about a 1/3 of them on my own, I'm sure a lot more will be discovered as the weeks go on.

Damn , I totally missed that first one

 

[newtypepilot]

finally beat the final boss after numerous attempts. I don't want to fight them ever again. It's the only boss that made me respec to change my build. The phase 2 is simply not fun as it's a just blinding light show that obscures the attacks most of the time.

While I greatly enjoyed the DLC, there are things that really annoyed me, mainly the fact you can get punished for exploring even though the game encourages exploration. I missed out on several items because a bunch of NPCs will relocate once you reach a certain point on the map and trigger an event, hence unable to do parts of their quests and get theses items until NG+. The game never warns you about this. Doing their quests are already big enough of a puzzle, so they need to stop making quest rewards missable. I don't want to goto NG+ just to get them.

The level designs for the dungeons are truly impressive though.


One thing I hope From will do is be more transparent about the stat buffs/debuffs for all items and weapons. Simply saying "boost damage negation" is too vague. If it increases by 5%, just say 5%. It's a common problem among JP devs where they just like to have stats hidden throughout.

 

[SJRB]

finally beat the final boss after numerous attempts. I don't want to fight them ever again. It's the only boss that made me respec to change my build. The phase 2 is simply not fun as it's a just blinding light show that obscures the attacks most of the time.

While I greatly enjoyed the DLC, there are things that really annoyed me, mainly the fact you can get punished for exploring even though the game encourages exploration. I missed out on several items because a bunch of NPCs will relocate once you reach a certain point on the map and trigger an event, hence unable to do parts of their quests and get theses items until NG+. The game never warns you about this. Doing their quests are already big enough of a puzzle, so they need to stop making quest rewards missable. I don't want to goto NG+ just to get them.

The level designs for the dungeons are truly impressive though.


One thing I hope From will do is be more transparent about the stat buffs/debuffs for all items and weapons. Simply saying "boost damage negation" is too vague. If it increases by 5%, just say 5%. It's a common problem among JP devs where they just like to have stats hidden throughout.

Honestly I just roll with it for the first playthrough, the second is for following quests with a guide or whatever.

What quests did you lock yourself out of? I've been doing things pretty randomly but I don't think I've locked myself out of stuff. At least not like the Volcano Manor assassination missions that straight up lock you out once Rykard is dead. Granted I did look up what I was supposed to do once I randomly encountered Ansbach in Shadow Keep.

 

[SJRB]

Holy shit I beat Bayle first try after upgrading the Dragon Hunter to +10.

We died at the same time but I was still awarded the win. Close call but a win is a win.

edit: holy shit I also beat Gaius. What is going on?

 

[R6Rider]

Did they really need to have Messmer repeat the same fucking line every time you die?

 

[Danjin44]

Did they really need to have Messmer repeat the same fucking line every time you die?

 

[CityHunter1981]

It’s perhaps just me… I really loved Elden Ring and did everything including all optional content and bosses.

But for some reason I just don’t feel like going back to it. I fear the time it needs to learn everything again and getting good at it. Next From Software game I will be there again but sorry, I think I will skip this DLC.

 

[R6Rider]

Messmer is another trash boss fight. Very few opportunities to get hits in, insane AoE attacks, and of course effects covering your screen so you can't actually see what's happening. Luckily he has a low HP.

EDIT: Oh, can't forget the extremely delayed attacks, which even his insta-kill move has.

Another down. On to the next.

 

[newtypepilot]

Honestly I just roll with it for the first playthrough, the second is for following quests with a guide or whatever.

What quests did you lock yourself out of? I've been doing things pretty randomly but I don't think I've locked myself out of stuff. At least not like the Volcano Manor assassination missions that straight up lock you out once Rykard is dead. Granted I did look up what I was supposed to do once I randomly encountered Ansbach in Shadow Keep.

I went to the shadow keep via the church district entrance so I did the storehouse first before the actual castle area. I missed some of cookbooks from Moore's quest because triggering the rune breaking event will cause him to leave. I missed the entire fight between Leda and Hornsent as well as Leda and Ansbach, thus I got locked out of the AoW, talismans, and weapon you get from their duels. It's too easy to skip this part of their quests given how non-linear the progression is at this point of the game. The Volcano Manor assassinations are harder to miss because whichever way you get to the Manor, Tanith is pretty hard to miss.

 

[Badlucktroll]

I cannot beat fuckin Romina. Any tips?

 

[DaciaJC]

 

[SJRB]

I went to the shadow keep via the church district entrance so I did the storehouse first before the actual castle area. I missed some of cookbooks from Moore's quest because triggering the rune breaking event will cause him to leave. I missed the entire fight between Leda and Hornsent as well as Leda and Ansbach, thus I got locked out of the AoW, talismans, and weapon you get from their duels. It's too easy to skip this part of their quests given how non-linear the progression is at this point of the game. The Volcano Manor assassinations are harder to miss because whichever way you get to the Manor, Tanith is pretty hard to miss.

Yeah that sucks, I just found out about this myself after reading up on Leda's progression because I thought it was super weird she was still at her usual spot having no new dialogue after I burned the tree.

I cannot beat fuckin Romina. Any tips?

There's a talisman that greatly increases rot immunity which may help. Also be sure to get as many scadutree fragments as possible and max out that level. The difference is insane.

 

[ebevan91]

Damn , I totally missed that first one

Wow I did too, now I just need 2 more scadutree fragments for 20. Doesn't really matter since I already beat the final boss (and all other bosses but still).

 

[ssringo]

Do you guys use just one weapon at a time? I went through the game with only Bloodhound Fang.

Starting a new playthrough and was thinking I still needed a bit of Faith for Golden Vow and such but came across a reddit comment saying it's better to put the golden vow ash of war on a dagger and not bother upgrading faith - felt like an idiot. Seems a lot easier. Switching multiple weapons during combat is a hassle but golden vow is only needed before so I guess I'll do that.

Preface: play how you want to play and don't let anyone say you're doing it wrong.

I prefer to do themed builds and stick to it. Meaning if I want the benefits of faith, bleed, etc then I have to invest in the stats to use them by default without bypassing stat requirements. Makes me actually learn the build and how to approach various enemies and bosses. It also forces me to use stuff I might otherwise not or do things differently. For example, if I was going big strength unga bunga, used the Hero starter class and came across a Revenant I can't heal it to death if I haven't invested those 4 points into faith (no bypassing with faith boosting gear) so have fun dealing with the crazy flailing attacks. Or for a more direct example, I'm currently doing a full run using the martial arts weapons from the DLC. I can't use shields for protection or for the better parry options so crucible knight fights play out different because all I can do is avoid the attacks.

 

[Barakov]

Just got to Abyssal woods and.....

Definitely looking forward to the manse.

 

[ebevan91]

Just got to Abyssal woods and.....

Definitely looking forward to the manse.

The manse was awesome. One of my favorite places in the DLC.

 

[bender]

Just got to Abyssal woods and.....

Definitely looking forward to the manse.

 

[winjer]

Just got to Abyssal woods and.....

Definitely looking forward to the manse.

The manse is very cool to explore, but short.
The woods are kinda bad. And they have one of the most annoying enemies in the game, the aging untouchable, because there is only one specific way to defeat them.
Midra is difficult, but not the hardest in the DLC.

 

[Arsic]

Did they really need to have Messmer repeat the same fucking line every time you die?

In the embrace of Messmers flame

 

[R6Rider]

That moment when the Hammer Crucible Knight is a better boss fight that most of the actual bosses so far.

 

[Melon Husk]

The manse is very cool to explore, but short.
The woods are kinda bad. And they have one of the most annoying enemies in the game, the aging untouchable, because there is only one specific way to defeat them.
Midra is difficult, but not the hardest in the DLC.

The woods are hidden behind a puzzle so it's really a bonus area. There's a large inaccessible zone behind the mansion too.

 

[winjer]

The woods are hidden behind a puzzle so it's really a bonus area. There's a large inaccessible zone behind the mansion too.

I didn't find anything behind the mansion. I'll have to go back there and investigate.
Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Melon Husk]

I didn't find anything behind the mansion. I'll have to go back there and investigate.
Thanks for the heads up.

Inaccessible as in there's no way in and it's probably empty.

 

[winjer]

Inaccessible as in there's no way in and it's probably empty.

Ok. I thought it was something I had missed.

 

[tommib]

Finally, jebus creepers…

 

[FoxMcChief]

So now I’ve beaten Mesmer on both Xbox and ps5.