Hm. Makes me wonder how crazy a jump range you can get if you stack a neutron boost with Liquid Schwartz. Are they multiplicative?
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Elite Dangerous: Horizons |OT| Just scratching the surface
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Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Wow, that's a passenger target? Doesn't that nebula require FSD boosts to get to? I hadn't realized that any passenger missions would be needing jumponium, now I kind of want to do that one, LOL.
No, they don't add.
Yeah. You need like a minimum of 45ly jump range plus premium materials to get there.
https://www.edsm.net/galactic-routes/show/id/341/name/Route+to+Hen+2-23+-+Glorious+Nebula
I wouldn't bother with missions unless the faction's in a civil war or something. Otherwise even if you don't care about decent pay you barely ever get the mission types you want, if there are any at all.
RadioactiveLobster
Member
They fixed it for a vast majority of HUD colors but some combinations still cause issues. Changing HUD colors isn't officially supported so they said they might not be able to fully fix it all possible color combinations.
Which is ridiculous. How can they not have customizable HUD colors still...
Draconis 17. Killing skimmers counts towards ship massacre missions. The payouts are Federal compared to the effort and it's pretty effective at building Federation Rep on top due to the ability to stack missions. Hard to resist, really, even though it's the typical "exlpoitative" pattern of all the high money runs discovered so far and eventually "fixed" at some point only to be replaced by newly discovered ones in other places. Still, unless Frontier gets their act together and balances mission payouts/rank progressions etc. to not be a life crushing grind, that's the best we have in terms of "quick" progress.
Thanks for the hint. Not setting any colors to "0" actually improves the issue, although the shade on my portraits is still notable. But the light blue HUD with green highlight color is a very refreshing change from the vanilla orange. Let's hope Frontier slips HUD color modification in between the other QoL updates at some point. And doesn't make it a payed item, like the laser colors.
I don't mind laser colors, but starting to ask money for something that was previously freely available would be low.Anton Sugar
Member
I thought they stealth nerfed Draconis 17 this past week? Reddit was saying it was no longer giving out a ton of massacre missions after the cat was out of the bag.
If that's the case, I have a hard time imagining how ridiculous the payouts have been before. I regularily find massacre missions worth anything between 400k and 11 Mio. credits.
This has now become the credit grinder:
Yes. Don't wait! Mouse + Keyboard is perfectly serviceable and arguably beats a HOTAS in some respects. ;-) On top of that, having gotten familiar with the game, you'll have a much easier time finding a good keybinding on the HOTAS that suits you, if you're already able to play with mouse+keyboard.
See for yourself.
Other than that, don't expect missions do be any good for earning money or progressing. At the start, look for how bounty hunting in your Sidewinder works and make sure to get a better ship than the starting Sidewinder.
Dreams-Visions
Member
nah, people are still making a billion a day.
Anton Sugar
Member
ffffuuuuu why did I trust in reddit? Gonna head there ASAP haha
Looks like the state changed. Couldn't even make more than a few million last night. Missions aren't spawning.
Yeah, seems to have dried up. Pity, made more credits than I ever have for a while. Back to Apam Napat then...
Anton Sugar
Member
I think I'll still check it out. The thread on Draconis in the ED official forum doesn't mention it being nerfed, just that they made a shit ton of money over the weekend.
It's mentioned in Obsidian's latest video, too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ODYffX_K7E
He also noted that ship names ARE confirmed...but no ETA.
It's mentioned in Obsidian's latest video, too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ODYffX_K7E
He also noted that ship names ARE confirmed...but no ETA.
Anton Sugar
Member
HAHAHA, hey, I'm just here for the money, bro! If there's a chance it's still working, might as well give it a shot. I have 70+ million in assets/cash on X1 but only like 15m on PC
EDIT: Ah damn, saw your edit. Truth be told, I was half listening to Obsidian and half reading through the thread.
The dream is dead.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
I'm not anywhere near the bubble and I've not done the Draconis 17 thing yet, but not it is not over, the faction just isn't in civil war anymore so the missions dried up. Once some commanders work the BGS and get it back into civil war again the money train will be back in the station.
Pretty much. Just a matter if FD plays the god card again and makes changes before that happens.
They're fighting a losing fight there. Each and every golden goose that's been discovered, they beat to death with their nerf-bat. Sometimes hitting a bit more than just the goose. But it's always been replaced with some new goose. I guess that's the beauty of having some automated system state and market logic in the backend, with mission generated according to those values. Good for players I'd say, as long as they don't manage to make missions compelling and fun and give them reasonable payouts by means of game design prowess.
A shout out to the Lost Winds WiiWare crew!
And what a nice rear end looks like for the ground crew...
Anton Sugar
Member
Nice shots, Burny. Makes me wanna go back to a trusty Cobra
NeoGAF faction is currently in an "Outbreak" state:
Lots of missions. 8 available in my session right now and they're almost all Outbreak-related. There's also a "Covert outbreak combat operation" mission that rewards 2m in credits They don't say what you have to do, you get further instructions in the target system. Might give it a shot.
NeoGAF faction is currently in an "Outbreak" state:
Lots of missions. 8 available in my session right now and they're almost all Outbreak-related. There's also a "Covert outbreak combat operation" mission that rewards 2m in credits
They don't say what you have to do, you get further instructions in the target system. Might give it a shot.Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Payout was a little higher for the trade CG, 50% @1000 tns got me 17 million
Anton Sugar
Member
Seems like Passenger missions are back to where they were. Saw a NneoGAF mission paying 34m to Jacques and 11m for a nebula ~5k ly away. Maybe not to original 2.2 levels but worth considering, at least.
Nice. There is an exploration CG for Federation going on now, ends in about a day.
Nice. There is an exploration CG for Federation going on now, ends in about a day.
You mean the exploration CG for the Children of Raxxla to vindicate their wrongly accused whatserface.
Dreams-Visions
Member
They're fighting a losing fight there. Each and every golden goose that's been discovered, they beat to death with their nerf-bat. Sometimes hitting a bit more than just the goose. But it's always been replaced with some new goose. I guess that's the beauty of having some automated system state and market logic in the backend, with mission generated according to those values. Good for players I'd say, as long as they don't manage to make missions compelling and fun and give them reasonable payouts by means of game design prowess.
the rice is strong with that Cobra kit.
LowerLevel
Member
This made me lol, thx
Dreams-Visions
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Anton Sugar
Member
Phew, had a good binge in Open with a friend today. Showed her the ropes of combat, spent most of our time in a High RES.
Holy crap, it's been a minute since I've been in a High RES but those things are INSANE! *TONS* of ships. Wings of 3-5 big ships--FDLs, Fed ships, Condas, etc.
Worst was when I had 1m in credits and got one shotted from full shields and 33% hull by a thermal weapon or maybe a plasma accelerator? Not sure.
Spent the other part of the day in Apam Napat running Outbreak missions. Almost to "Allied" with NeoGAF faction! Had a number of fairly simple missions in the 500k-2m range.
Holy crap, it's been a minute since I've been in a High RES but those things are INSANE! *TONS* of ships. Wings of 3-5 big ships--FDLs, Fed ships, Condas, etc.
Worst was when I had 1m in credits and got one shotted from full shields and 33% hull by a thermal weapon or maybe a plasma accelerator? Not sure.
Spent the other part of the day in Apam Napat running Outbreak missions. Almost to "Allied" with NeoGAF faction! Had a number of fairly simple missions in the 500k-2m range.
Back in Adam Napat as well. Now, if only I'd manage to find time to play again. Maybe a bit during the weekend...
I'm not getting it. Rice, as in tacky asian tuning kit? If so, yes, very much.
What would an alleged military ship be without space spoilers and bumpers? >.< We'll probably see Viper and Python kits next though.
Edit: So your Python can play at being a Corvette...
Anton Sugar
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Want to upgrade my Anaconda's thrusters from D to A. But I have modifications on the current thrusters. Has FDev said anything about storing/transfering mods in upcoming updates? Or did I juts dream that up. Also, should I do the upgrade at all? I lose about 4-5Ly in range by making the switch because I have to upgrade my power plant too.
Salut! Je suis de Québec moi aussi!
Woo! Whereabouts!
I'm in Deschambault, and don't speak French yet.
Damn. Thanks though.
Sigh... I was just about to finish my first longer passenger mission. Had done a couple shorter ones before without problems. In hindsight I should not have shipped a couple of units to the current CG. I am just used to do so just to be at least among top 100% as it is still a lot of money for me. Anyway got two scans and passenger got unhappy. I thought she would get happier by 'collecting data' and see the sight nearly 3000ly away. But apparently not. After several days of intensive play I got back to drop her off with more than two weeks of time to spare before having to hand in the mission. Then on my way to the pad I got a third scan (after days without any) and then it was mission failed. No 6M credits, nothing, just said: 'Drop me off at nearest station and I'll find someone else to take me!'. Even though I just completed said 6000ly roundtrip. Wtf is wrong with this game?
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Yeah, the one largest negative about those long range passenger missions is that all of them hate being scanned, and when flying out of or into a large station its really hard NOT to be scanned. I wish that one requirement was dropped from them, as it just generally sucks, especially if you are flying a large slower ship. You actively have to avoid all and any stations while ferrying them around.
Its indicative though of the biggest problem which Elite has in pretty much every corner of the game: a blatant disrespect for the players time. Its a theme with Elite really. Its better than it used to be but it still permeates certain aspects, and these long range PAX missions with the no scan aspect are a great example.
That sucks.
This is why I refused to do any long range passenger missions or even multi-part missions. The very fact you can do all that and still fail the mission and not get any payout is unacceptable. I'm very iffy about long range hauling missions as well because the game just gets interdiction happy at the worse possible moments at the very end of the trip.I haven't touched the game in a little bit and I'm better for it I think. Don't miss playing. If another big update comes I'll load up the game or reinstall it (thinking of uninstalling as I want the extra space for something else).
The game really does after a while has no respect for the players time. Many of the passenger missions help to shine a spotlight on that. Overall I think it's just gotten worse as Frontier actively tries to stop and push back against any methods that are discovered by the player base to speed up or streamline certain elements of progress in the game.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Whoa the federal dropship is actually kind of a monster at taking punishment.
I've been practicing using fixed pulses and a gimbled huge multi on my FdL, it was aggravating and enraging at first but I'm slowly getting used to it, the boost in fire power is nice and the ability to strip shields off is much welcome. I'm thinking of modding my pulses for fire rate.
Honestly though, the best part is that it has added a really refreshing element to gameplay lol.
I've been practicing using fixed pulses and a gimbled huge multi on my FdL, it was aggravating and enraging at first but I'm slowly getting used to it, the boost in fire power is nice and the ability to strip shields off is much welcome. I'm thinking of modding my pulses for fire rate.
Honestly though, the best part is that it has added a really refreshing element to gameplay lol.
Yeah, it has sadly been the case since launch. I bought Horizons a month ago and got back to the game after about a 12-18 months break from it. It is indeed better now and I shouldn't complain too much as I have been able to do some significant progress lately (with respect to where I was in the game). Thanks to community goals I have been able to finally buy a new ship (Type 7) so that makes it feel a bit fresh again. Although I mostly play solo the community seems great, should do some more Moebius play perhaps.
That sucks.
I haven't touched the game in a little bit and I'm better for it I think. Don't miss playing. If another big update comes I'll load up the game or reinstall it (thinking of uninstalling as I want the extra space for something else).
The game really does after a while has no respect for the players time. Many of the passenger missions help to shine a spotlight on that. Overall I think it's just gotten worse as Frontier actively tries to stop and push back against any methods that are discovered by the player base to speed up or streamline certain elements of progress in the game.
Can't blame you as I just returned (=bought Horizons) myself just a while ago after a 12-18 months break. It is really a shame that much of the game-play mechanics still feel unfinished or too quickly slapped together. Want to love this game more. Wonderful community and often awesome graphics.
Recently went on a shopping spree with the 17 Draconis credits myself and got an A-rated FDL with fixed pulse lasers and one fixed huge multi cannon. Didn't play much with it, except for a bit of nav beacon bounty hunting, but holy hell! Admittedly, the ships cruising around there aren't that tough to begin with, but even without engineered mods, it's clear that whoever ends up a the receiving end of a FDL is in for a world of hurt. Not relying on gimbals also means that you won't be bothered by chaff.
I'm doing a 180 on the other purchase, a mining T9. The T9 will probably stay with some good A-rated modules as a trader, although I don't see much of a purpose for it, yet. Well outfitted it seems to be a 150+ mio. ship (my purely theorised and unoptimized build notwithstanding) with crippled jumprange and some limited cargo space in favor of bigger shields and a fighter bay to give it any survivability whatsoever. Now it only needs a purpose, as I don't see much sense in using a 10 Mio. credits rebuy brick of a ship with poor defenses for low paying interdiction heavy missions or mining. I'll get a Python for the latter.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Yeah it's insane, the reason I went for the gimbaled huge multi instead of a fixed is because the lower fire rate on the huge multi means I have to aim at a different spot to hit with it rather than with the fixed pulses (which you literally just aim directly at since they seemingly have no travel time), this allows me to keep more pressure on my target when I have them in my sights.