Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Any of you guys ever tried using trailing targeting vs leading for fixed?
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Elite Dangerous: Horizons |OT| Just scratching the surface
- Thread starter Anton Sugar
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That's why I said contemporary Mars and not Elite Mars
Dammit, sorry. ^^
Anton Sugar
Member
FDev confirms ruins are bugged and won't be fixed until 2.3: https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDange...re_alien_ruin_scientists_fdev_confirms_ruins/
They better reset that fucking mission timer. This is ridiculous.
They better reset that fucking mission timer. This is ridiculous.
I'd imagine most sane people have already cashed in and moved on to better things, though you can receive the mission again and get a refreshed timer.
Also being "fixed" in 2.3 is the exploration rank gained through tourist missions so better get on to that and get an easy Elite ranking without all of the tedious scanning you'd normally have to do.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
I gave up on the ruins weeks ago, it's been obvious that they were seriously bugged despite Frontier telling us repeatedly that they weren't. Finally Frontier has admitted to what we have known for weeks now: the ruins don't work. It's like Frontier isn't doing any quality control at all, or it's like Donald Trump is in charge of their QA department:
Frontier QA said:
three weeks later....
Frontier QA said:
Dreams-Visions
Member
I'd get a Vulture or a Dropship for combat and continue using the T6 until you can afford a T7 for trading.
If you don't feel like being bothered with military rank grinds, your path should look like
Viper --> Vulture (for combat)
T6 --> T7 (for trade)
Save up until you have enough money to buy an entry level (low budget but not unsafe to fly) Python. Something that looks like this
https://coriolis.edcd.io/outfit/pyt...704040002B1050504043302026e.Iw18eQ==.Aw18eQ==.
So your goal is to save up about $60 million.
Once you have the Python, you can retire the Vulture and the T7 for awhile, as the Python is the best multi-purpose ship in the game. You can use it for bounty hunting, CZ fighting, and it's the most flexible trading ship in the game since it has great capacity and can fit on medium pads (outposts).
So yea, pick up the Vulture now. Then get the T7. Then save up for the Python.
If you decide to grind military rank, you can slide a Federal Assault Ship and/or a Clipper before the Python. Not necessary at all, though.
Glad I decided to spend my time rolling more weapons and ship mods instead. What nonsense.
The best part is that it'll be fixed in 2.3...one to two months from now. Can't work Elite's skeleton crew too hard.
Display is bugged there, we reached T10 and the prizes got bumped up again.
Pushed into top 10% of the Rescue CG tonight as well (154~ tons), outfitted my Virgil AspX with 6A shields, shield boosters, chaff, and 56 tonnes of cargo space. Basically have looping back into the instance down to a science now, and ran into more than a few that had me beating the rescue squad there. Usually meant three bonus escape pods, with the other five spawning in with the rescuers. Lost my ship once, but thereafter kept watching the contact list and chose to scoop once and run if against scary targets.
Forerunner
Member
Yeah, I got rid of my FDL and traded it in for a Python. The FDL is fun and all, but its just too limiting at times. I mean it was great for combat. However, I like to multirole and you cant really do that in a FDL. So a Python is a much better fit for me until I can grind the credit/rank for a Corvette.
Are we sure it's an actual progression block he's referring to rather than the solo bug? You guys know me, I'm very open to giving FD a thrashing but I'm not sure we have the facts here.
Thanks guys, I am sitting on about 30 million credits, so it's a toss up between an all rounder like the Aspx, or a dedicated fighter like the Vulture....
Or, I could fit my Type 6 out as a miner and try and grind enough for the Python......
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
It is a progression bug, the obelisks never reset themselves so it is impossible to trigger the mechanism which progresses the ruin site to any mode beyond initial. In solo this completely stops players from getting any datasets beyond the initial mode of the ruins, thereby blocking off entire blocks of the data. In open and PGs however there is another bug happening, a different one, where the player instance changes caused by players joining and leaving are somehow triggering random obelisks to activate when they shouldnt, thereby allowing random datasets from different modes to be acquired completely accidentally.
The end result is that it should be theoretically possible to accidentally get all data from one site purely by sheer random luck as long as you hang out there long enough, but in practice the huge number of possible combinations of objects and obelisks make this nearly impossible to randomly happen. Also the games network code is crashing peoples instances constantly around the ruins, and this makes it impossible to actually remain in an instance long enough to accidentally get all of the data. Many players have been able to gather quite a bit more data than the solo bug allows simply by loitering around ruins in open while other people join and leave the instance, but its mathematically very improbable that anyone will get them all. Its just too broken and cumbersome.
The whole thing is horribly busted due to a combination of bad bugs and horrible network code. I doubt very much that it will ever be fixed to the point where it works as intended. Not without a serious rewrite of Elites network and instance code.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Ok I'm in Quince getting imp rank, what do you do for rank up missions? I'm only getting long haul ~400 ly smuggler missions.
No idea, but I'd be interested as well. Did one yesterday, but it takes almost all evening. Didn't have a long jump range ship either, so one evening spend watching loading screens. This game is such a great proposition for spending one's free time. And people in Frontier forums are arguing you should lose engineer upgrades after ship destruction...
I disgress. As far as I can see, I fear the only sensible way to rank up is migrate back to another Imperial system.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Hmm. I really don't want to risk a "scan and fail" smuggle mission over 400 ly (in Python), payout is pretty bad for the distance too.
If you really like fighting, I'd recommend the Vulture. As much as I love the AspX, it can't hang for long in combat zones. Otherwise, I'd really really recommend an AspX. It's a decent hauler for its size and has great jump range. I have a vette and a conda and I still use my Asp for anything taking long trips.
Mining is one of the worst, most boring ways to make money.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Most boring maybe, but if you get missions for osmium missions or ice mining you can actually make a considerably large payout, something ~5m per 100t of cargo. Not the best money ever but it's better than other things.
Anton Sugar
Member
I like mining It has a low key enjoyable, relaxing gameplay loop.
With limpets, that is. Still can't ever fucking imagine mining before having those.
It has a low key enjoyable, relaxing gameplay loop.With limpets, that is. Still can't ever fucking imagine mining before having those.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Yeah I don't really mind mining actually, I just wish that mining laser were toggle on / off instead of hold down the trigger.
I know you can use the classified cam while you're firing your mining lasers to keep them going though.
I know you can use the classified cam while you're firing your mining lasers to keep them going though.
Have you guys checked out the Mars series on National Geographic? Kind of a hybrid sci-fi show about a manned mission to land and establish a colony on Mars in the 2030s.
Takes breaks from the fiction by cutting to our current world via interviews on what it would take to get there, and real world parallels to Mars like the science we're doing in Antarctica among other topics like SpaceX, the US and NASA losing its way with the shuttle program etc. Been enjoying it.
Takes breaks from the fiction by cutting to our current world via interviews on what it would take to get there, and real world parallels to Mars like the science we're doing in Antarctica among other topics like SpaceX, the US and NASA losing its way with the shuttle program etc. Been enjoying it.
Anton Sugar
Member
Dafuq? Short range, long range, passenger type, allied with passenger factions?
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
My new dual tank FdL fit is a fucking abomination
1000mj's in bi-weaves
1800 in hull armor
3 efficiency PAs
2 double shot frag cannons
Sure I don't have much ammo but I can kill a deadly anaconda in about 30 seconds. I just need to get the resistances up to spec and grade 5 a bunch of components but this is too fucking funny.
1000mj's in bi-weaves
1800 in hull armor
3 efficiency PAs
2 double shot frag cannons
Sure I don't have much ammo but I can kill a deadly anaconda in about 30 seconds. I just need to get the resistances up to spec and grade 5 a bunch of components but this is too fucking funny.
Wut? Do passenger missions boost your exploration beyond the normal experience for traveling?
I was allied and the missions were just to take passengers to different tourist beacons in the bubble. Something like 10-15 million a pop with a 5-10% rank increase and with three to five destinations. Apart from having to make sure you don't take those stupid secretive types of passengers it was pretty easy with a 40ly Conda.
Not as far as I know, but sightseeing trips even around the bubble can pay a lot of cash. I jumped a few ranks the same way. Absolutely faster and more efficient than raw exploration.
Released:
2.1 Engineers: Exchange grind for ship improvements beyond normal modules. Persistent NPCs with faces.
2.2 Ship launched fighter: You can carry small dedicated snub fighters in a number of ships and control them, while some AI pilot controls your ship & vice versa. Passenger missions added.
Alien encounters started (Thargoids) and alien ruins (2nd species: "Guardians" found.
To come:
2.3 Multicrew + pilot creator beta end of the month, public release probably some time middle to end of March. Multicrew entirely combat focused (turrets + fighters). Allows for instant joining to a host ship. Up to three people in the suitable ships.
2.4: Unknown features.
Hinted at by means of recent trailer: huge station sized transport (?) ships, probably not player controllable, and asteroid stations.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Devs usually play death match, since it's the only game mode people queue for.
Anton Sugar
Member
Yeah I was thinking the same. Would be surprised if one isn't announced in tomorrow's newsletter.
Hoping for a dev update today
It doesn't exactly read like a meaty update. I think they might just do one stream before beta and one before beta ends.
That's unfortunate, I much prefer TD or even CTF. Might still give it a go for a chance to shoot at FD.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Sightseeing passenger missions have been bugged since 2.2.03 (they weren't in 2.2) in that they increase exploration rank with each mission success FAR more than they should, about 10X more than they should. It is right now extremely quick and easy to get to Elite in Exploration simply by doing a dozen or so sightseeing passenger missions.
Frontier have said they will fix it for 2.3, so you have a couple months yet until the bug is gone.
... damn, and here I thought some segment of the game's progression scheme wasn't fucked for once.
Forerunner
Member
Yeah, Devs only play DM. Most players only play DM. It's the fastest way to get in a game. Also it's fastest way to rank up. Games are quick and you can get more points compared to TDM or CTF. When it comes to the later ranks, they takes forever. It's like +2 hours per rank once you get to the 40s. I'm level 40 and I have like a 1d 5h of playtime. So getting to 50/prestige will probably take me around 2d of playtime.
If you ever want to get to elite, players generally hit that ~13 prestige (depends on the player and the opponents they face). So yeah, it's a hell of a grind. So like +200 hours just of CQC. That's why there are so few quad elites.
I'll have to train myself to ignore the rank in the main game then, there's no way to get that kind of playtime without doing many weeks of 5am mornings just to catch the main CQC population.
You tell me. You'd have to pay me to watch a CQC livestream or Xbox dev livestream.
Eh, I only tune into livestreams for deature updates or new releases usually. But I dimly remembered from reading and apparently correctly so:
2.3 livestreams next week
No info on specific topics or dates however.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Aughhhhhhhhhh
I mined out 50 units of bromellite to go get my PAs engineered to grade 5 but then I realized I need a permit to go into alioth.
So now I'm hauling 150t of micro controllers 2 jumps away to 78 UM to gain rep in what feels like the slowest method ever.
I mined out 50 units of bromellite to go get my PAs engineered to grade 5 but then I realized I need a permit to go into alioth.
So now I'm hauling 150t of micro controllers 2 jumps away to 78 UM to gain rep in what feels like the slowest method ever.
Anton Sugar
Member
Let me know when you get an answer for that, because I'm still waiting to hear back on how instant ship transfers break "immersion". but instant teleportation to your last visited station upon death isn't. The Distant Stars expedition all insta-transferred themselves back home, and no one blinks an eye. I want to have my ships appear when I hit a button, and apparently that's not realistic.
Really like that ship kit for the Python but they cost way to much money for what is offered. Here's hoping there is a sale on it in the future. Don't think it or any of them were discounted this past holiday.
Thanks.
2.1 Engineers got some rebalance pass since the initial release/beta ? I think the initial reaction were far from positive when it came to how random it was.
Completely forgot about 2.2, I looked it up, it seems kind of underwhelming, but I can see it making more sens with multicrew release.
2.3 Multicrew could be really fun, do we know if they finaly decided that multiplayer should give you a decent reward or are they keeping the stupid decicion made with wings that it should be split by the number of player ( and no wing mission ? ) making it usually far less efficient than playing solo ?
Asteroid stations in 2.4 could be nice if it goes in pair with fighting around them.
For Engineers they increased the amount of materials you get from collecting 1 resource to 3 instead. So if you pick up 2 nickel on a surface, you get 6. Commodities used to be part of Engineer blueprints that required actual cargo space to store but have been removed from blueprints entirely.
For multicrew I believe both combat bonds and bounties rewards are shared across each crew member.
According to the dev updates, they're actually duplicated for each crew member. So players joining a host ship shouldn't have a creadit disadvantage compared to playing in their own ship.
I wonder if that'll open up eploit possiblities for crewmembers passively tagging along to earn credits, but with all the effective credit making schemes, that setill seems relatively unattractive.