I tried so hard not to compare that to everything in Elite but ultimately since I posted this, I've failed.
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Elite Dangerous: Horizons |OT| Just scratching the surface
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I tried so hard not to compare that to everything in Elite but ultimately since I posted this, I've failed.
Felix Lighter
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Happy with the Eagle! I am making more money with random bounty hunting than actual missions thoughAlso have not gotten to do a surface mission yet.
The Eagle flies like a dream. You won't find a ship as agile until you fly the Vulture.
Happy with the Eagle! I am making more money with random bounty hunting than actual missions though
There is one type of mission that makes more money than bounty hunting: long range smuggling. But you're looking at a 10+ Mio. ship to do it effectively. And countless random interdictions, each potentially screwing your profit over entirely.
General mission payouts compared to the usual grindy credit generating activities (with the exception of exploration) are nealy negligible. Combine that with broken mission templates, missions having little to no sensible context, often being decidedly poorly designed courier jobs or being based around randomly generated spawns and missions are really not a very compelling way to play the game.
Mengy
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Happy with the Eagle! I am making more money with random bounty hunting than actual missions though
The Eagle is my favorite ship in the game to fly. I love how nimble and fast it is plus it has great visibility from the cockpit. When I bounty hunt I normally take my Vulture out but sometimes when I just feel like killing little ships I'll fly my Eagle for the fun of it. If I could outfit an Eagle to be a great exploration ship I'd fly it in a second.
I got that email a few days ago saying I was gifted a Viper MK IV and fired up the game for the first time in months to go get it.
Went to whatever system it was in (it wasn't far from where I had stopped playing) and saw it in the hanger. Now I have to decide if I should keep it or sell it to buy something else. I'm flat broke so even if I sell the kinda mediocre ship I have I'm not sure how well I'll be able to kit out the Viper.
Just breaking out my flight stick and doing that quick run made me get the itch to play a bit more though... once I figured out how to raise landing gear and retract hardpoints etc.
Went to whatever system it was in (it wasn't far from where I had stopped playing) and saw it in the hanger. Now I have to decide if I should keep it or sell it to buy something else. I'm flat broke so even if I sell the kinda mediocre ship I have I'm not sure how well I'll be able to kit out the Viper.
Just breaking out my flight stick and doing that quick run made me get the itch to play a bit more though... once I figured out how to raise landing gear and retract hardpoints etc.
Yeah it's pretty sad to realize that. I just want to fire up the game every free minute I have, but what shall I do? I think I might set my persona target to get a Diamondback Explorer. I love the design, a true space truck. So.. bounty hunting...
I landed on a unexplored planet once and drive up to the station/outpost there. I did the thing where you need to activate three thigns (sorry, the specifics are escaping me right now). I now have 57.000cr to collect but from a faction that's currently very far away, so I guess I will make my way up to those systems. When do planets lose their "unexplored" tag?
Missions are broken / bad. Anyone will agree, even Frontier, that's why they will get an update in 2.1... But why do you need so much money? Bigger ships aren't more "fun".
If you are a casual, you can play community goals, it brings a nice bonus and are not that long and hard to do.
From CMDR Insomnia :
For startes: you would likely not care as much if missions were compelling, offered a reasonable path of progression and could ideally be accepted by wings, scaling according to the wing size.
But there's a point to be made for a boring ass mission that took you half an hour of cruising through three different systems from start to finish being like a healthy kick in the privates, if it only pays a small fraction of any other grindy game mechanic in that time. Even more so if the other mechanics don't have you aimlessly looking for a randomly generated spot.
Felix Lighter
Member
I've always like the look of the Adder.
frontieruk
Member
I am relatively new to this but I basically set it up like this guy. Works fantastic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dD7LbDOaDU
Someone was posting this before. I modified it a little bit with custom throttle controls and a mouse switch for roll.
Thanks, I will give this a try. I won't be getting into any difficult PvP shenanigans during this time, I just need it to be able to run power cargo
I don't know what half this mumbo jumbo means but if it means VR is at least more accessible on the GPU side of things, I'm all for it
Now if they'll just release those cards no later than May....
What's not visible here as far as I can see is the power distribution. The youtube guy has them on "WASD" with modifiers iirc. I'd recommend placing them on 1-4, as to be always available. The panels could still be on the number keys, but with modifiers instead. But I'm thinking with combat priorities here (my panels are on the F1-4 keys).I am relatively new to this but I basically set it up like this guy. Works fantastic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dD7LbDOaDU
Someone was posting this before. I modified it a little bit with custom throttle controls and a mouse switch for roll.
Yeah I still have them on the cursor keys, the WASD modifiers were confusing.
frontieruk
Member
Means they are working hard to lower the cost of entry, I'm sure NV have plans too but AMD are talking actively about their plans.
I knew that bit, just not the technical stuff
One non gameplay change I do hope they implement is proper scaling of planets/suns in SC. There are times(usually for airless planets and stars) where the planet/sun doesnt really look that big relative to my ship. This is almost always the case with a star, and often the case with airless planets.
Well.. it's all built to scale, so how exactly would you suggest "fixing" it?
Scale's not the problem, it's the speed you're moving. Whizzing by Earth at several times the speed of light, and yeah, it's gonna go by fast, and at a huge distance. Short of making planetary approaches take hours, there's not much they can do.
Felix Lighter
Member
Yes, distances and size of planets and stars are all to scale.
I was thinking that might be it but wasnt too sure. Thanks for clearing that up.
Well, you're travelling at several times the speed of light or several hundreds of kilometres per hour, try travelling across a planet in normal cruise and see how long it takes you to fly to a mountain you see in the distance, especially that 28km deep crater in Junga - It'll take you a long while to get to the bottom.
Was my first reaction as well. Now I can play with M+K as well as with a HOTAS.
Did you remap the yaw to the mouse x-axis? I know that some people get along with roll on mouse-x, but that was my initial barrier of entry for M+K. Which vanished after remapping yaw and roll.
I gave up and use the Steam controller, much better.
But why? I tried the Steam Controller as well but it did not feel really good (Xbox Controller as well).
Felt fine to me. I had to find a control setting I liked, but once I found it, it's been great. It will work for the brief time I will be without a HOTAS.
Not that this is not a valid option, but I'd like to know what exactly it was that made you give up or realize that mouse+keyboard isn't for you. I had that exact same "nope" reaction when trying the game that way at first and for me it was switching the roll/yaw mapping that made it finally click.
The default M+K configuration offered by Elite is really poor imo and should be replaced. Not least to avoid such reactions and the resulting frustration. As well as building all to much familiarity with the key mapping options, which will finally receive collapsible sections with 2.1 iirc (1.5 years after release... >.< ).
I've always hated controlling analog things like that with a mouse. In games like Arma 3, I hate controlling the helicopters with the mouse, and would rather use WASD. It's just a personal preference of mine.
frontieruk
Member
Cross platform for Mac / PC, Xbox feeds into the universe so it's kind of cross play but not what we'd like.
Anton Sugar
Member
Yeah, figured it was either a mistake or some casually disingenuous marketing. Dammit.
Sleeping Lesson
Member
So glad they'll have official Rift support. But it's a whole separate version of the game? That seems weird.
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Is this only for Horizons owners?
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Horizons is not required.
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Is this only for Horizons owners?
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Horizons is not required.
Pimpbaa
Member
I more fun in my Python than I did any other ship in the game. I recently got an Anaconda, and I'm having fun in that as well, other than the fact I can't dock at outposts.
FDL buff was a bad idea
He has a point. I can sort of see why it was done, mainly to give FDLs more options. The SCB nerf in particular would have crippled them without any other kind of buff to make up for it. However what it got was overkill. The heat alone is a huge issue, because you can do Silent Running and barely have to pop heat sinks. I mean, I mean, I can get a fuel scoop and get close enough where I am scooping at almost 400/s and STILL be at around 60% heat! Now just think of how ridiculous this is in a PvP combat situation. Then it gets even worse when the new Huge Hardpoint weapons come out.
He has a point. I can sort of see why it was done, mainly to give FDLs more options. The SCB nerf in particular would have crippled them without any other kind of buff to make up for it. However what it got was overkill. The heat alone is a huge issue, because you can do Silent Running and barely have to pop heat sinks. I mean, I mean, I can get a fuel scoop and get close enough where I am scooping at almost 400/s and STILL be at around 60% heat! Now just think of how ridiculous this is in a PvP combat situation. Then it gets even worse when the new Huge Hardpoint weapons come out.
Felix Lighter
Member
Leave my fucking FDL alone.
Reckheim
Member
The point is that more people will have access to that minimum spec at a price point that works for them (i.e. <$349)
Caesar III
Member
0.5, waiting for 1.0 public release to upgrade.
People buying into VR at min spec is the worst thing that can happen to VR, but I get the price worries.
effectively gives you no reason to get the python for PvE unless you want to trade too, but then again the python is multipurpose so there's that
Yeah, but for the most part it makes combat options extremely slim. You can bring a Federal Corvette with 2 Huge Plasma Accelerators, but if you can't pitch the thing to aim, what's the point? FDL will completely out maneuver it.
We just need more ships that are viable in fitting the role the FDL does right now.
Game should be balanced around the upgrades, so that they can provide overlapping combat profiles across various ships.
Dreams-Visions
Member
I mean....
After careful consideration, yea should FDev nerf the FdL and FAS. If they do that, the Vulture, Python, Courier, Clipper and Gunship all become relevant again. Hell you might even see a few Cobras. And the Cutter/Corvette/Conda can't be forced out of a PvP fight in 20 seconds like they can be now, because there won't be a high volume of ships firing QUAD Rails.
Yea, suddenly most of the combat-capable ships become viable options.
I say revert the power plant changes. FdL's were strong when all they had was multicannons + C4 PA. Keep the pitch rate upgrade. Give the FAS a similar power plant nerf and/or an armor nerf. I'd also suggest nerfing the pitch rates of the Corvette and Conda to be closer to the Cutter (but still faster) . Right now they're about 50% faster in pitch than the Cutter. Make them only 25% faster. Make those big ships more reliant on turrets and gimbals. No reason for the biggest ships in the game to be able to turn damn near as fast as fighters. balanceblancebalance.
Believe it or not I rewrote this entire post, dumping 2 paragraphs because I originally wrote against nerfing...then I realized I was wrong.
After careful consideration, yea should FDev nerf the FdL and FAS. If they do that, the Vulture, Python, Courier, Clipper and Gunship all become relevant again. Hell you might even see a few Cobras. And the Cutter/Corvette/Conda can't be forced out of a PvP fight in 20 seconds like they can be now, because there won't be a high volume of ships firing QUAD Rails.
Yea, suddenly most of the combat-capable ships become viable options.
I say revert the power plant changes. FdL's were strong when all they had was multicannons + C4 PA. Keep the pitch rate upgrade. Give the FAS a similar power plant nerf and/or an armor nerf. I'd also suggest nerfing the pitch rates of the Corvette and Conda to be closer to the Cutter (but still faster) . Right now they're about 50% faster in pitch than the Cutter. Make them only 25% faster. Make those big ships more reliant on turrets and gimbals. No reason for the biggest ships in the game to be able to turn damn near as fast as fighters. balanceblancebalance.
Believe it or not I rewrote this entire post, dumping 2 paragraphs because I originally wrote against nerfing...then I realized I was wrong.