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Elite Dangerous: Horizons |OT| Just scratching the surface
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wesleyshark
Banned
Good stuff. Now... To plan on what ship to get that can house a hanger bay.
It's all very much up in the air. Not sure how many you can have out via AI pilots or your buddies in multi-crew down the line. Could be very powerful. Will definitely make for some interesting meta changes.
Forgot to throw this bit in:
There are 3 SLF available to players. The F63-Condor, the Imperial Fighter and the Independent Taipan fighter. This is the new Alliance fighter, which is said to be the most powerful of the three.
Taipan – the most robust of the three, faster recharge for it’s shields but is the slowest and has the worst manoeuvrability.
F63 – the most lightly armoured, has medium manoeuvrability, but is the fastest of the three.
Imperial Fighter – Most fragile of the three, not the fastest but the most manoeuvrable of any ship in the game.
I think they're doing that to make the military feel like they deploy from somewhere along with shipyards to show they're built. I don't think FD has any intention of giving capital class vessels to players.
I'm actually a supporter of giving larger vessels to players, achievable through faction groups and cooperation though.
They are live again from Gamescom: https://www.youtube.com/user/FrontierDevelopments/live
wesleyshark
Banned
This is so fucking cool.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
So the fighters are disposable? Good way to put out a diversion to run for larger trade ship.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
I kinda wish they'd implement more coop content, early on there doesn't seem to be much of a reason to play with your friends lol. Not until we have enough equipment to handle like real RES fights, as it is now most things about mostly harmless are a disaster without the cops, and there aren't exactly many pockets of mostly harmless enemies from what I've seen.
wesleyshark
Banned
They will be in 2.3 I believe. Multi-crew and avatar creation.
Being in a wing with friends and going into res sites is fun though!
Didn't catch it either. There are some new vids though.
AI pilot hiring/orders in combat
Braben Interview 2 "Culture"
Dreams-Visions
Member
Everything pleases me. I'm curious how they're going to justify fighters dealing damage to real ships given their weapons have to be class 1 weapons at best.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
I wonder what the range on fighters are, or if there some sort of mothership module that can be destroyed to stop them?
Felix Lighter
Member
The Imperial Courier is the best looking ship in the game with the best looking cockpit. A dream to fly too.
wesleyshark
Banned
The cockpit blew me away. I love it. Just need to fully kit it out so I can take it into combat.
Love the engine sounds too.
RadioactiveLobster
Member
I think it's dependent on the level of fighter bay you have and the size of your ship. The higher end fighter bay (and by extension, the larger the ship I'd assume) the more active fighters you can have.
Someone correct me if I am wrong though.
StonedRider
Member
Did they say anything about NPC ships with fighters?
Yes, NPCs can use fighters as well.
Dreams-Visions
Member
but then you lose the entire purpose of owning a T9: transporting high volumes of tradeable cargo. I think it's a safe assumption that fighter bays will have a minimum size and a maximum size. Example:
Small fighter bay = 1 fighter = Class 5 internal required.
Medium fighter bay = 2 fighters per bay = Class 6 internal required.
Large fighter bay = 3 fighters per bay = Class 7 internal required.
In such a scenario, in order to get 7-10 fighters on a Type-9, you'd be limiting yourself to 52T of cargo capacity, maximum and no shields.
If I were to guess, this is exactly how they'd approach it. This makes heavy fighter-based semi-capital ships a thing (possibly) at the expense of hull reinforcement or shield banks. The Corvette, Cutter, and Anaconda all have enough internal slots of Class 5 and up to hold 7-10 fighters while retaining shields and some smaller internal slots for Discovery Scanners, Fuel Scoops, Landing Packages and whatnot.
I don't think a serious trading ship is going to ever want more than a 2-fighter bay. Pros and cons.
That said, one of the things I really love about this idea is that fighters give truck sim drivers an opportunity to break up the monotony. A little mix of high speed combat in with your boring trading runs can add the fun that the career path needs to be viable.
Also, I take full fucking credit for the hiring mechanic for NPC fighter crew.
wait what now? If you can carry up to 10, what would be the reason behind only being able to send only 1 out? That doesn't make much sense. You sure you heard that correctly?
wesleyshark
Banned
I really like the hiring of NPC crew members. And eventually your own friends I bet.
In the hiring screen the player can only have 1 active pilot. As for the 10 cap, you can 3D print fighters so the amount you can hold doesn't mean much IMO. Maybe the Keelback used in the video only had 1 fighter bay and that's the limiting factor.
Joe Spangle
Member
Thought i would jump back into elite after playing No Mans Sky. I havent played for a while so i had to download a new launcher and then update the game. It kept timing out and so i couldnt play. I spent about an hour restarting the download many times.
Does anyone know if there are server issues or anything like that which might be the reason? I find it very frustrating that when i want to play a game that i cant due to having to log in, i backed this game when it was supposed to be single player before the old switcher-roo to always online.
Does anyone know if there are server issues or anything like that which might be the reason? I find it very frustrating that when i want to play a game that i cant due to having to log in, i backed this game when it was supposed to be single player before the old switcher-roo to always online.
Usually only during heavy traffic like a beta launch. Should be an alternate download method option in launcher options you can try. Their launcher is pretty much garbage when it comes to resuming a download or installation though. Just does not work.
Joe Spangle
Member
Ah ok, cheers buddy. Ill try again tonight.
Per 1 active pilot here's what reddit has:
NPC Crew
Up to 3 NPC Crew can be hired from the crew lounge to fly both your own ship or any SLF (via AI). However, only one can fly with you at any one time. The others will be on shore leave until you need them.
Deal breaker for me. Hope that changes.
NPC Crew
Up to 3 NPC Crew can be hired from the crew lounge to fly both your own ship or any SLF (via AI). However, only one can fly with you at any one time. The others will be on shore leave until you need them.
Deal breaker for me. Hope that changes.
Felix Lighter
Member
You should also be able to claim a Steam key from Frontier's site. Maybe you'll have better luck with that.
wesleyshark
Banned
Why a deal breaker? It's gotta be due to proper balancing. The idea of unleashing a bunch of fighters at once is really cool, but would also be incredibly one-sided haha.
Yeah it could be. 1 just seems lame considering it could use a class 7 slot on a Corvette. Can't really see the point of using such a high class bay if you can only deploy one at a time. Coupled with the fact you can just make more within the ship. Maybe they have a long build time? We'll see.
wesleyshark
Banned
Weekend goal: Rank up enough to get the Imperial Clipper.
wesleyshark
Banned
Damn there's pop-in on pc too? Figured that was just on Xbox
Given the sheer size of the planets, I get it, but sometimes it can be pretty blatant haha
Felix Lighter
Member
Damn there's pop-in on pc too? Figured that was just on Xbox
Given the sheer size of the planets, I get it, but sometimes it can be pretty blatant haha
I saw a video of Xbox One planetary landings and the difference is honestly very stark. Though the lower quality textures do transition a bit noticeable even on PC. I seem to remember the transition was a bit smoother in 2.0 but with 2.1 the surface ultimately look better when your close.
DouglasteR
Member
I dont get any pop in.
wesleyshark
Banned
I think pop in is the wrong term maybe. Textures are blurry and don't sharpen up until you get closer, which makes sense, given the size and draw distance. Probably unavoidable. But occasionally, some sections of textures will sharpen up before others and it looks wonky haha. I don't mind it at all but I imagine it's quite immersion breaking in VR
I think the Horizons pass is 25$ right now. Probably the cheapest it will be for a while until the next season releases.
joecanada
Member
I have a technical question.
I am running a GTX 720 right now (placeholder till I find a 1060), and it runs elite vanilla fine, despite "can I run it" saying I can't hit min. specs.... its actually decent at 720p and high settings.
if I installed horizons could this screw things up? I am perfectly happy now with just puttering around but if I could install horizons with zero risk I would do it.
I am running a GTX 720 right now (placeholder till I find a 1060), and it runs elite vanilla fine, despite "can I run it" saying I can't hit min. specs.... its actually decent at 720p and high settings.
if I installed horizons could this screw things up? I am perfectly happy now with just puttering around but if I could install horizons with zero risk I would do it.
I was playing Horizons on a GT 650m 896mb laptop card. I was miserable on surfaces but I could definitely play it.
I'm sure this has been asked before so I apologise beforehand.
I purchased ED on Xbox One at launch and never put much time into it but with the updates and horizons is the game much better in content and performance?
Thanks and I'm also expecting a Scorpio update when it arrives.
I purchased ED on Xbox One at launch and never put much time into it but with the updates and horizons is the game much better in content and performance?
Thanks and I'm also expecting a Scorpio update when it arrives.
I'm inundated with games, so I don't mind waiting for another sale since I can't get to it anytime soon.
joecanada
Member
cool I guess too if it runs terrible you could uninstall horizons ? would this hamper your progress or delete your saves?
Yes, no and no.
joecanada
Member
nice I'm gonna update to horizons, can't wait to find a 1060 to run this game on !