Krappadizzle
Member
Nintendo flexin' on Sony right now.
For a while, Breath of the Wild sold more copies on Switch than Switch's were actually sold. Sony fans need to step their game up.
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Eurogamer: New Pokémon Snap sold nearly triple the boxed copies of Returnal
Nintendo flexin' on Sony right now.
For a while, Breath of the Wild sold more copies on Switch than Switch's were actually sold. Sony fans need to step their game up.
SlimeGooGoo
Banned
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Jack Videogames
Member
Nintendo flexin' on Sony right now.
For a while, Breath of the Wild sold more copies on Switch than Switch's were actually sold. Sony fans need to step their game up.
I mean, I have purchased a game for a system I didn't own... it was a weird feeling. I remember trying to play it on my PS1 just for shits and giggles until I saved enough for a PS2.
It was The Bouncer
Don't judge me
Krappadizzle
Member
I'm guilty of buying Tekken Tag Tournament for PS2 before I owned one. It was actually quite a while before I owned one. I bought the game, stood in line for PS2 midnight release, the store I was at only had 13 PS2's to sell. I was number 14 in line. Took a while before stock had normalized and it was probably 4 or 5 mos. until I finally got a PS2.
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Pokemon Snap physical sold more than Returnal with physical+digital sales
What's the drawback to record breaking sales?
Returnal charted at no.2 behind Pokemon. I'd say that's pretty good for the install base and IP.
A lot of us got fooled by The Bouncer.
Dream-Knife
Banned
Easy.
1. Pokémon is a casuals game, much less something as brain dead as taking pictures.
2. Most nintendo gamers buy physical, while ps people buy digital.
1. Pokémon is a casuals game, much less something as brain dead as taking pictures.
2. Most nintendo gamers buy physical, while ps people buy digital.
BattleScar
Member
Put Pokémon on anything and it will sell like hotcakes.
Sword and shield was hot garbage and it sold out every where.
That aside, people are also glossing over the fact that returnal is a Rogue-like Horror game and Pokémon Snap is a photo taking game for kids. Doesn't really matter how good Returnal is, it's target audience is inherently more niche than the broad mass-market appeal Pokémon goes for.
Tams
Member
Celine.D.Sykes
Member
I kind of remember you and your avatar... You were an Era member ?
I wouldn't call the Pokemon games trash, but they're not living up to their potential. They could be so much more. I'm also sad they stopped going the B&W route. That game was amazing.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
AND its Pokemon. everything is niche in comparison.
Thesuffering79
Banned
Eh, its an on rails camera game. It is also niche. I get that it is also a pokemon game but it is also niche compared to the pokemon franchise.
Fake
Member
Yes, is me. My avatar there is Ventus from KH, I send countless of email telling them to remove my nickname/avatar from there, but as you can see they still keep, maybe for tease me.
I was banned when I saw the serebii guy whining about people making fun of him, but I show to him he make a loads of fun of others users everytime he need to defend Pokemon in every thread.
IMO I would call trash because if you saw the Digital Foundry video, the game runs really poor, loads of content was cut off, less pokemon and the story have very little time, you beat the game and nothing much you can do besides buying the DLC.
No offense to people who thing otherwise, but I'm a pkmn fan myself, get DS for Platinum and Black/White/BW2, have here 3DS for X/Y and Moon/Sun, Shield and Sword is a huge step back in many ways.
I can confirm this is not a case of 'lost oportunity', everything in this game was made by a simple decision of cash grab. Eveything was intended to be in that way and the Pokemon director gave loads of interview saying he will not cut pokemon from his game, but we saw at the end what was his is intention.
My old brother told me he got Switch and Shield, but he spend less time on the game because they're feel content to play, I warned him about this game and to wait for the remake of Peal/Diamond.
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Javthusiast
Banned
Disgusting to be honest considering it's another barely anything new in decades sequel for a lazy we never do anything good with it ip.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
This is such a weird thread title. Weird flex, is weird.
namekuseijin
Banned
yeah, and taking shots of critters is much better and more challenging gameplay too. Wow.
Burythelight
Member
When you don't have argument to drag down a successful new ip.
ZehDon
Member
Oh boy... this is getting silly now.
A. Most people shop online for physical media/games.
B. Physical-only numbers for Snap are more than physical and digital for Returnal.
C. Sony stated that the vast majority of PS5's are the Standard Edition. Only a small fraction of the PS5 are the DEs.
D. Cross-platform attachment rate comparison for first/second party exclusive titles are not a valid metric for quantifying anything useful in this context. This has never been a thing.
Folks, it's ok: Returnal doesn't have to out-sell fucking Pokemon. Everything is going to be ok.
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GuinGuin
Banned
Totally false. We do not know the digital numbers for either.
anthony2690
Member
Honestly I don't see the appeal of Returnal and I don't see why people are getting their panties in a twist over a pokemon photo taking game selling more. (one is established and has fans and the other exists)
I can imagine most people look at Returnal and can't justify the £70 price tag, that's like 94 American dollars.
I'm sure it is fine game, and I can imagine most people picking the game up are desperate for something new to play.
I wouldn't be surprised if they start bundling Returnal with ps5s down the line, like how they do with miles morales in the UK, it is near impossible to get a PS5 without being bundled with miles morales.
You know when ps5 is in stock in the UK, because myles morales flys up the charts again
I can imagine most people look at Returnal and can't justify the £70 price tag, that's like 94 American dollars.
I'm sure it is fine game, and I can imagine most people picking the game up are desperate for something new to play.
I wouldn't be surprised if they start bundling Returnal with ps5s down the line, like how they do with miles morales in the UK, it is near impossible to get a PS5 without being bundled with miles morales.
You know when ps5 is in stock in the UK, because myles morales flys up the charts again
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ZehDon
Member
According to the head of Gameindustry.biz, the UK sales data highlights that Pokemon Snap physical surpassed Returnal physical + digital.
You're at zero facts in two posts with six statements. Might I suggest leaving the sales talk to others?
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GuinGuin
Banned
You dismissed the fact that there are 10 times fewer PS5s than Switches. If your potential pool of buyers is ten times smaller it is expected you would sell ten times fewer games. Returnal sold 3 times fewer games according to your wonky data against the biggest IP of all time. That's three times better than you would expect and an absolute success. Sony knew it wouldn't be able to put up Uncharted numbers. It's meant to give people a reason to buy new hardware. Maybe you should give up trying to downplay the numbers?
Gordon Freeman
Member
There are 9 million PS5s out there globally.
Returnal is only the SECOND PS5 only game out there. The first being Demons Souls.
Mostly all next gen owners are starved for next gen only games. So the fact Returnal couldn't even break good sales with that type of demand is telling enough.
The game failed.
Ratchet and Clank will sell way more and is PS5 only. So all these "only so many PS5s out there" arguments will soon be negated. Miles Morales has hit Number 1 on the UK chart regularly when PS5s restock. Returnal just continues to dip.
Returnal is only the SECOND PS5 only game out there. The first being Demons Souls.
Mostly all next gen owners are starved for next gen only games. So the fact Returnal couldn't even break good sales with that type of demand is telling enough.
The game failed.
Ratchet and Clank will sell way more and is PS5 only. So all these "only so many PS5s out there" arguments will soon be negated. Miles Morales has hit Number 1 on the UK chart regularly when PS5s restock. Returnal just continues to dip.
GuinGuin
Banned
You act like people only buy exclusives. That's false. Practically everyone with a PS5 would have had to buy Returnal at launch to match Pokémon numbers. Why you sickos are so hell bent on trying to downplay the achievement of a brilliant studio is baffling. Talk about sour grapes.
Skifi28
Member
Wow, you've never been lucky with hardware launches, have you. I was reading your post about waiting 8 months in queue for a 3080 with no luck and now this.... Just give this guy a break, jeez..
Edit: Seems it's a pretty old post... But still.
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Krappadizzle
Member
Yeah, always like a day late and a dollar short.
Vognerful
Member
If your measurement for success is number of sales, then you are in for a hard time.
Returnal is great game, but being financially successful will be hard to prove. This is a niche title taking advantage of being an early exclusive. The current data show that there are maybe 1 to 5 digital to physical ps5 in the wild or even less.
Snap is not even a main pokemon game and as not people buy digital on PS5, there probably 10 folds on switch.
GuinGuin
Banned
Can you edit that? I can't tell what you're even trying to say.
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Gordon Freeman
Member
I enjoyed Returnal greatly so my sour grapes is more that I want more people to play it.
I understand what you're saying but this is prime time with absolutely no competition for next gen only games. So the fact it can't even break through with that advantage is telling.
Let's talk soon when Ratchet and Clank hits and suddenly it sells way more and is next gen only.
MvCSpiderman
Banned
(2013)
"Pokemon and Call of Duty will die off any minute now. GTAV can't repair the damage IV made and no one will by it. Halo is dead and won't ever sell a million copies again. Assassin's Creed Unity will be the most polished and refined next generation experience."
"Pokemon and Call of Duty will die off any minute now. GTAV can't repair the damage IV made and no one will by it. Halo is dead and won't ever sell a million copies again. Assassin's Creed Unity will be the most polished and refined next generation experience."
GuinGuin
Banned
It has broken through. Lots of people have played it and are talking about it. It will have a long tail as more people are able to buy a PS5.
TheGodfather07
Member
Really? Nobody expected that at all!
ZehDon
Member
The data isn't mine, it's from one of the most trusted sources for data in the entire industry. Your thrashing out at everyone (4 posts in one hour virtually attacking anyone not hailing Returnal as a huge success) in a laughable attempt to control the direction of this conversation. No one's downplaying its numbers - you're trying to over-play them and its coming across as desperate. Returnal isn't a failure in need of defending, it's actually done quite well and Housemarque should be very proud - they certainly don't need your inept attempts to re-frame their sales as something other than what they are: a niche game thrust into the spotlight due to a games drought on a new platform. Feel free to re-read my post on the first page, and feel free to drop the borderline-fanboy white-knight non-sense.
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
Shocking that a Pokemon game on Nintendo hardware with a massive install base, would outsell a new IP on a supply constrained console.
To be honest, I'm quite impressed that it is even this close. I think this says more about the popularity of Pokemon than it does about Returnal.
To be honest, I'm quite impressed that it is even this close. I think this says more about the popularity of Pokemon than it does about Returnal.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
We don't, but we know that physical Snap outsold physical + digital Returnal.
GuinGuin
Banned
Long ass post to ignore the data pointing to it being a sales success
In one tiny largely irrelevant country. Worldwide the numbers may well be very different. Regardless Sony seems very happy with the success of the game.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Like... the United States of America, the biggest video game market on the planet? Ok then
ZehDon
Member
Good Lord child, just stop. This is really, really sad.
GuinGuin
Banned
Like... the United States of America, the biggest video game market on the planet? Ok then
Given PS5 has 10% of the install base of the Switch those are great numbers.
Thesuffering79
Banned
Where were you when Wii U had some really big selling games despite it's size? Install base isnt the issue, its the availability of the thing when you want a game to play on it. In this case there arent any units for people to buy even if they are interested in the game.
GuinGuin
Banned
I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or disagreeing with me but Nintendo selling Pokémon and Mario to Nintendo loyalists isn't nearly as impressive as this stellar performance from a new IP from a lesser known developer.