Fabula Nova Crystallis: Final Fantasy XIII Media and Information Thread

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Hazaro said:
Bummer.

I'd probably guess around $80 after conversions though.

I'm hoping they don't charge almost as much for a BD bundled with a demo/some trailers as they are for for a high-profile 360 game (in Japan), but this is the same company that can't just put some trailers up on a website instead of putting it as a bonus with an art book (or whatever the hell these things are), so I'm already getting prepared for the price. :lol
 
Rpgmonkey said:
I'm hoping they don't charge almost as much for a BD bundled with a demo/some trailers as they are for for a high-profile 360 game (in Japan), but this is the same company that can't just put some trailers up on a website instead of putting it as a bonus with an art book (or whatever the hell these things are), so I'm already getting prepared for the price. :lol

I fully expect a total rape on the price... I would even expect import stores to gouge a little due to the demand it will have. D:
 
Kagari said:
I fully expect a total rape on the price... I would even expect import stores to gouge a little due to the demand it will have. D:

I predict at around 100USD. Expect places like P-A to charge that price.



HK-47 said:
No belts and zippers is fine, but I dont get no negative discourse. I hate one sided topics where dissenting opinions cant be expressed.


Because the usual naysayers act like a broken record regarding their opinions of Nomura's artwork and the games he was actively involved in. It's like you guys are on a crusade to shit at every FF thread involving Nomura or something. Have no interest in the game? don't post, simple as that.
 
Diablos said:
Newer face looks a bit more round and feminine looking.

i would actually say the opposite. the older looked rounder and more feminine. the newer one kinda has a pointy dude's chin.
 
Awwww fuck. I'm gonna buy this anyway, aren't I. One of those guilty pleasure things. I had absolutely zero interest before this thread, but now that the release date can be measured in months rather than years, I'm getting a little excited.
 
They apparently love to change the design of their heroines during the development. It reminds of Ashe, and in her case too the new design wasn't as good as the first.

Otherwise, cool thread. We definitely needed one, and yay at anti-hate rules.
 
Kagari said:
I fully expect a total rape on the price... I would even expect import stores to gouge a little due to the demand it will have. D:

Why I'm just going to buy the Asian version of FFXIII when I import it. They have actual normal prices for those versions...

klee123 said:
I predict at around 100USD. Expect places like P-A to charge that price.

Meh, pass if it costs that much. I already have two current-gen games and a guaranteed expensive DS game to buy that month that'll be fun for a few weeks (maybe months), not feeling having to pay half their total cost for something that won't last nearly as long as even one of those.
 
Cool, Kagari, good luck with the updates. With the ban rules in effect we'll manage to have decent conversations in here.
 
Sorry for the noob questions but do we know anything on XIII's and Versus' gameplays ? Did they hint at some new things or is it going to be classic FF gameplay ?
 
Nice to finally have a thread about some of my most anticipated games that shouldn't completely devolve into bickering.

agito02.jpg

For some reason I have not seen this picture before (or at least I don't remember seeing it), looks both awesome and amazingly pretentious :D


HK-47 said:
No belts and zippers is fine, but I dont get no negative discourse. I hate one sided topics where dissenting opinions cant be expressed.
I don't think the rules actually prevent negative discourse. The closest would be "no whining, hating", but I don't think that applies to reasoned negative remarks.

Ramenman said:
Sorry for the noob questions but do we know anything on XIII's and Versus' gameplays ? Did they hint at some new things or is it going to be classic FF gameplay ?
What is "classic FF gameplay"? Since the series spans stuff like FF9, FF10-2 and FF12 that's kind of hard to say. As far as I know, the current speculation based on some quotes and the staff puts FFXIII as having a somewhat similar system to FF10(-2?) rather than 12, but more "fluid" and "cinematic". Versus is supposed to be more of an action RPG.
 
Durante said:
What is "classic FF gameplay"? Since the series spans stuff like FF9, FF10-2 and FF12 that's kind of hard to say. As far as I know, the current speculation based on some quotes and the staff puts FFXIII as having a somewhat similar system to FF10(-2?) rather than 12, but more "fluid" and "cinematic". Versus is supposed to be more of an action RPG.

What I call "classic FF" is what you have in FFX, as opposed to something more dynamic like in FFXII for example.

Thanks for the info.
 
Ramenman said:
Sorry for the noob questions but do we know anything on XIII's and Versus' gameplays ? Did they hint at some new things or is it going to be classic FF gameplay ?
IIRC...

FFXIII - Return of the classic ATB but with cinematics.
Versus XIII - Action RPG but with FF classic of fighting in dungeons/airship/worldmap.etc
 
I thought this would be a media blowout thread, got excited there for a minute.

Are there any dates we know of that content for these games may actually be shown?
 
Ramenman said:
Sorry for the noob questions but do we know anything on XIII's and Versus' gameplays ? Did they hint at some new things or is it going to be classic FF gameplay ?
Not very precise, but still interesting:
Kikizo: There's not much known yet about how Final Fantasy XIII plays. Can you shed some light for our readers?

Kitase: Gameplay-wise, there's not much we can disclose at the moment... except that, similar to Final Fantasy XII, there's going to be a field with monsters roaming on there, which the character can interact with, and you can pursue or avoid them on the field. When you touch them, it will transition into a battle sequence. We can't say how many members will be in the party, but we will definitely have the traditional party element incorporated into the battles.
 
HK-47 said:
No belts and zippers is fine, but I dont get no negative discourse. I hate one sided topics where dissenting opinions cant be expressed.

Hating is not the same as expressing a negative viewpoint. Hating is when you enter a FF thread to hate on FF with no critical purpose other than to hate on FF.

Example:

"FF has sucked since FFVI and this won't be any different!" <-- adds nothing to the conversation, discussion, or serve any meaningful purpose to the thread other than baiting people into defending FF and degenerating into list wars.

"Man, the new screens aren't looking too hot. I expected a little more out of the battle engine after all this time, but it looks like a step back from FFX-2 and FFXII." <-- not hating, but simply commenting on the content. This is fine and will NEVER be surpressed. People can argue whether it's really a step back, but it's actual discussion.

"Fuck FF, who the fuck cares anymore?" <-- hating, will be banned on sight.

"Haha looks like FF is still the stupid turn based RPG that Japanese love. Hard to care when there's stuff like Fable 2 and Oblivion out there." <-- trolling, will be banned so hard.


I hope that makes things clear. I'm not in any way surpressing opinions, but some comments simply don't contribute in any meaningful way. We know there are people that don't play JRPGs, we know there are people that hate FF or hate Nomura. They don't have to change their taste, but there's no point expressing the same recycled opinions in FF-centric threads over and over. It gets old. People that do give a shit about the thread's content are totally free to express any opinion, negative or otherwise, but it should be based on actual criticism, and not just a general "i hate this entire thing" vibe which is what I'm trying to cut down on.
 
MoogPaul said:
i would actually say the opposite. the older looked rounder and more feminine. the newer one kinda has a pointy dude's chin.

+1, it's the same issue with the new Prince look for versus. I prefer the softer faces.
 
Of all the games in this compilation, I'm inexplicably the most excited for Agito. The screens released of it so far are very impressive for a portable system.
 
I was surprised to see this thread show up so early, but after reading the OP, I see why.

I'm way excited for FF13. I was only on minimal hype before, but my wife and I have been playing Tales of Vesperia, and it's put me back in an RPG mood, and my wife's been loving it, too.
 
Hey Kagari, are there high resolution versions of the game logo pictures you used in the OP available somewhere? And what's the font you used in the banner?
 
This was announced in 05 right, and it isn't coming out here till 2010. This could very be the most expensive video game ever.I guess there is also no hope of v13 coming out until 2011 :( This is the first gen where we have less then 3 main FF games.
 
I don't know if anyone has heard yet, but does anybody know if Advent Children Complete will have English on the disc from the beginning? I can justify getting the film+demo if it's in English as my fiancee likes it anyway (... :( ), but if not, then I won't be importing it :(

I know I've read the future, present, past thing before, but maybe you should point out the games take place in separate universes. People will think it's literally the future, present, and past of one world.
 
duckroll said:
"Haha looks like FF is still the stupid turn based RPG that Japanese love. Hard to care when there's stuff like Fable 2 and Oblivion out there." <-- trolling, will be banned so hard.

Turn-based trolls should be banned from life, IMO.

Good work on the thread Kagari, the portable game looks pretty decent.
 
batbeg said:
I know I've read the future, present, past thing before, but maybe you should point out the games take place in separate universes. People will think it's literally the future, present, and past of one world.

Exactly what links these 3 games together? Just the freaking title? :P
 
jett said:
Exactly what links these 3 games together? Just the freaking title? :P

A certain mythology. Except the mythology is made up. It's kinda like making 3 different games all based on Norse mythology for example. Each game could be completely different worlds, characters and stories, but they have references to Ragnarok, Odin, Loki, and gods/giants, Nephihelm, etc. Yet these references could mean completely different things, since the mythology is used as a simple reference. In the case of Fabula Nova Crystallis they made up a certain mythology that isn't being revealed yet, involving crystals, goddesses, shinigamis, and various terms that will be used in all three games. Yet nothing ties the 3 games with each other, only tying each game with the root mythology. This gives them a chance to allow each team to make a totally original project and vision that does not rely on any of the other teams for continuity or feedback, but yet keeps the entire FFXIII project under a familiar theme that is distinct from the rest of the FF series, making the project a concise sub group in the franchise.

Holy shit I can't believe I typed all that. I sound like S-E PR. :(

Edit: To clarify, for the player's point of view - the mythos is supposed to be introduced in FFXIII itself, and you experience it first and foremost there. After being familiarized with this mythos having played FFXIII, the rest of the FFXIII games are supposed to give you different directors' interpretations and visions of the same base myth in completely different types of worldviews.
 
We got any specific date of when the info is coming?

I told myself that if we didn't see any gameplay this TGS then I'd forget about this game and stop the hype cause it's just too faraway.
 
I haven't really been following Agito, is it an ARPG like Crisis Core or a turn based game? I'm not really getting hyped up for XIII until I know what the battle system and subsystems are like...
 
djtiesto said:
I haven't really been following Agito, is it an ARPG like Crisis Core or a turn based game? I'm not really getting hyped up for XIII until I know what the battle system and subsystems are like...

Agito is the successor of the Crisis Core battle engine. It will be even faster, and have support for party members as well as ad-hoc and planned infrastructure multiplayer support. The battle director of FFX-2 and Crisis Core has been promoted to co-director role on Agito, and the director of Agito is the director of Crisis Core. The battles will be similar but the ATB bar will actually be visible in Agito to give you a better idea of the charge times and delays of various spells and attacks - so it's a little closer to FFX-2 in that aspect. Like in Crisis Core, you can move freely and dodgy attacks in realtime, but your attacks and spells are still queued so it's not an action game like DMC.

gregor7777 said:
Not sure I understand your point.

There's room for those who like other types of systems, but to hate turn based is to hate life.

I think I'm tired and read what you said wrongly, sorry.
 
Ramenman said:
What I call "classic FF" is what you have in FFX, as opposed to something more dynamic like in FFXII for example.
I don't know if you could really call FFX "classic" for the series; it's the only game in the (main) series that's actually straight turn-based, except maybe the NES games (and I think those were round-based). All the other ones are a mishmash of realtime and menu-based. FFXII is arguably closer to to the standard ATB system than FFX is.

(I care about this too much because I really, really liked FFX's combat, and pretty much all the other games' battle systems leave me kind of cold. I hope FFXIII is properly turn-based since it's the same battle director as FFX, but I'm not getting my hopes up too much.)
 
ElectricBlue187 said:
I wonder what system Agito will be on?
Looks like PS2 era graphics on the battle screen


It`s a PSP Game.
 
duckroll said:
Except..... not all FF games are turn-based? :lol
Only FFXI wasn't turn based AFAIK.

FFXII was just cleverally disguised not to be turn-based.

Uh, I guess crystal chronicles isn't turn-based. but that doesnt count :P
 
FFXIII is turn-based at its core but works much differently from the previous games
Versus XIII is an action RPG more heavy on action, like KH (not surprising considering what team is making it)
Agito XIII is somewhere in the middle and runs on the Crisis Core engine
 
zoku88 said:
Only FFXI wasn't turn based AFAIK.

FFXII was just cleverally disguised not to be turn-based.

Uh, I guess crystal chronicles isn't turn-based. but that doesnt count :P

Anything with ATB is technically not turn based. That leaves you with 1, 2, 3, and 10 for the pure turn based entries.
 
I forgot about that FFXIII demo. I doubt I'll get it tho, I can wait for the final game.
 
at this point, I'm most excited by Agito, I have no reasoning behind this.

Past, Present and Future... I should hope that playing them out of order won't be an issue. I don't want to play Verses first to find out that the main character of Agito is currently king or some shit like that.
 
WAIT
Demo in March 2009?!?!?!
No freaking way. RE5 comes out and a demo of XIII? Holy shit March if that's true. I loved XII so much that I am so insanely excited for these games. I might even have to get a PSP if Agito is good.
 
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