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[You Know Nothing]

Honestly, I look forward to a new Shadows of Mordor. I wish WB would make a proper RPG expending Tolkien's lore in a sensible way. And talking about WB and RPGs: Where is my Harry Potter RPG?!

I'd deadass lowkey highkey legit kill for a good Harry Potter RPG.

 

[Vazra]

TBH Ive mentioned I dont hate the Warrior games but I wanted more for Berserk. But it could have suffered a terrible fate I suppose.

 

[Xiao Hu]

I'd deadass lowkey highkey legit kill for a good Harry Potter RPG.

Dud, duuuuude! Harry Potter + CD Projekt!!!

 

[Deleted member 10571]

I'd almost bet money on there being a Harry Potter MMORPG by 2020, probably made by Turbine.

 

[SolVanderlyn]

I think MMOs are dead. EQ Next was cancelled and everything other than WoW loses money

 

[Xiao Hu]

I'd almost bet money on there being a Harry Potter MMORPG by 2020, probably made by Turbine.

Turbine is rubbish though. Now Arena Net on the other hand....

 

[Jobbs]

I legit deadass just cancelled some plans on sunday because I'd rather sit around and look at E3 crap

:: hermititis ::

 

[trab pu kcip]

I legit deadass just cancelled some plans on sunday because I'd rather sit around and look at E3 crap

:: hermititis ::

you are me two years ago.

 

[Vazra]

I legit deadass just cancelled some plans on sunday because I'd rather sit around and look at E3 crap

:: hermititis ::

You had plans? Disgusting

 

[SolVanderlyn]

you are me two years ago.

He is me now

 

[Jobbs]

you are me two years ago.

stop hermit shaming

You had plans? Disgusting

ikr

 

[Xiao Hu]

And I can't watch any of the presentations because I would either have to wake up fucking early or skip university completely :/

 

[You Know Nothing]

Dud, duuuuude! Harry Potter + CD Projekt!!!

Them or Obsidian.

The main thing is to keep it out of B*thesda's suppurating hands.

I legit deadass just cancelled some plans on sunday because I'd rather sit around and look at E3 crap

:: hermititis ::

#pray4GAF'sServers

 

[trab pu kcip]

stop hermit shaming



ikr

if anything I'm hermit encouraging!

 

[FloatOn]

Dud, duuuuude! Harry Potter + CD Projekt!!!

fuck that

CDPR + Dune

I want to believe

 

[Funky Papa]

bye, gawker

 

[liliththepale]

Went to brunch with some friends. Awful day for it but I still had some fun.

I wish E3 was already here.

bye, gawker

Yeah but none of their operations are ceasing in the mean time. Boo.

 

[FloatOn]

Went to brunch with some friends. Awful day for it but I still had some fun.

I wish E3 was already here.

I can empathize.

What are you looking forward to at E3?

 

[liliththepale]

I can empathize.

What are you looking forward to at E3?

Specifically, the Zelda previews and Sony conference. Less specifically, I like watching the all-day streams with developer interviews.

 

[SolVanderlyn]

What are you looking forward to at E3?

everything

 

[FloatOn]

I want zelda to be incredible but if it's just zelda in an elder scrolls skin... no thanks

 

[friskykillface]

I wonder what the reaction for Crash will be in theaters when I'm there Monday night
E3 hype

I want another Dead Rising, love that series

Zelda will just be open world zelda 1 x 2 combined remake , do it

 

[SolVanderlyn]

I want zelda to be incredible but if it's just zelda in an elder scrolls skin... no thanks

Don't even suggest it. Nope, nope, not happening, not possible. They wouldn't...

Spoiler

would they?

 

[Misha]

I want zelda to be incredible but if it's just zelda in an elder scrolls skin... no thanks

I never got why anyone said that. More map doesn't automatically come with the issues of elder scrolls. Most of their issues are in story telling. Wind Waker and to a lesser extent twilight princess already dealt with more expansive maps and they have my favorite over worlds.
Skyward sword had a very limited map and sucked for it

 

[Nerdkiller]

So...how is everyone today. Spent my day in Limerick so far.

 

[liliththepale]

I want zelda to be incredible but if it's just zelda in an elder scrolls skin... no thanks

I honestly wouldn't mind that. I like Skyrim a fair amount, so if it's Skyrim with actually good dungeons then I'll be in love.

I wonder what the reaction for Crash will be in theaters when I'm there Monday night
E3 hype

I want another Dead Rising, love that series

Zelda will just be open world zelda 1 x 2 combined remake , do it

Yes to all of this.

 

[Deleted member 10571]

I honestly wouldn't mind that. I like Skyrim a fair amount, so if it's Skyrim with actually good dungeons then I'll be in love.
.

Agreed, Nintendo would have a good chance bringing all the life and love to a Skyrim-ish open world that Bethesda is incapable of for generations.

 

[You Know Nothing]

So...how is everyone today. Spent my day in Limerick so far.

Disappointed you didn't compose a limerick for this post.

 

[FloatOn]

I honestly wouldn't mind that. I like Skyrim a fair amount, so if it's Skyrim with actually good dungeons then I'll be in love.

I put over 90 hours into skyrim. There is quite a bit to enjoy in that game but it's a sad thing when

1) The main story line is the worst quest line in the game
2) The combat is as shallow as it gets

and perhaps the worst offfender

3) so many broken and exploitable systems that completely ruin any real sense of progress

I never got why anyone said that. More map doesn't automatically come with the issues of elder scrolls. Most of their issues are in story telling. Wind Waker and to a lesser extent twilight princess already dealt with more expansive maps and they have my favorite over worlds.
Skyward sword had a very limited map and sucked for it

The issue isn't more map. It's more map that isn't designed with intent.

I feel like zelda overworlds haven't been worth a damn since link to the past (which remains the best zelda game imo)

 

[Jobbs]

count me in on the e3 hypewagon or whatever. I'm all about it.

I predict Zelda will have a female playable option (maybe the next logical step from naming your character will be a gender option and hopefully even some visual customizations). I actually bet $10 on this with a neogaffer in 2014 when it was first unveiled. I intend to collect

I also think a Zelda skyrim thing would be fine. Skyrim in third person with decent combat and the unique Zelda style? Yeah, that's actually exactly what I want. Skyrim has little sense of style and horrible combat + I generally hate FPS on principle, so, yeah, give me Zeldarim.

 

[liliththepale]

I put over 90 hours into skyrim. There is quite a bit to enjoy in that game but it's a sad thing when

1) The main story line is the worst quest line in the game
2) The combat is as shallow as it gets

and perhaps the worst offfender

3) so many broken and exploitable systems that completely ruin any real sense of progress

I don't think you'll have to worry about the first two. As for the third, eh, Zelda games are almost always super bug-ridden and exploitable if you know where to look.

count me in on the e3 hypewagon or whatever. I'm all about it.

I predict Zelda will have a female playable option (maybe the next logical step from naming your character will be a gender option and hopefully even some visual customizations). I actually bet $10 on this with a neogaffer in 2014 when it was first unveiled. I intend to collect

I also think a Zelda skyrim thing would be fine. Skyrim in third person with decent combat and the unique Zelda style? Yeah, that's actually exactly what I want. Skyrim has little sense of style and horrible combat + I generally hate FPS on principle, so, yeah, give me Zeldarim.

I'm guessing light RPG elements. That new art has Link in a knight's helmet, so there might be different armor options and stuff like that. Naturally a sex option plays right into that.

 

[Deleted member 10571]

So um.

We gonna watch the silly conferences here or what

 

[FloatOn]

count me in on the e3 hypewagon or whatever. I'm all about it.

I predict Zelda will have a female playable option (maybe the next logical step from naming your character will be a gender option and hopefully even some visual customizations). I actually bet $10 on this with a neogaffer in 2014 when it was first unveiled. I intend to collect

I also think a Zelda skyrim thing would be fine. Skyrim in third person with decent combat and the unique Zelda style? Yeah, that's actually exactly what I want. Skyrim has little sense of style and horrible combat + I generally hate FPS on principle, so, yeah, give me Zeldarim.

I don't see why having Link be a girl is such a wanted thing. Or voice acting for that matter.

Is it just so that the game can be different?

I would rather the difference come from more meaningful things such as the way the game is played or structured. I'm getting tired of the get 3 things oh wait now you have to get 7 things oh wait now you have to beat the last boss.

 

[Jobbs]

I don't see why having Link be a girl is such a wanted thing. Or voice acting for that matter.

Is it just so that the game can be different?

I would rather the difference come from more meaningful things such as the way the game as played or structured. I'm getting tired of the get 3 things oh wait now you have to get 7 things oh wait now you have to beat the last boss.

it's because some people would like to play a girl character, myself included. what's the harm?

link is not the same as, say, geralt. He's not a defined character. He doesn't speak. He's just some vague reincarnated hero of legend. He can be anything. You can name him whatever you want in every game. They even called him "Link" because he's the "Link" between the player and the game. He's a conduit. He's just an empty vessel.

because of this, it's just a natural progression to allow there to be a few more choices than just the name. I don't know what the downside is.

 

[liliththepale]

So um.

We gonna watch the silly conferences here or what

I usually jump in the SonyGAF or NeoGAF Twitch chat for the big conferences. I'll be at work or asleep for all of the conferences except Sony though.

I don't see why having Link be a girl is such a wanted thing. Or voice acting for that matter.

Is it just so that the game can be different?

I would rather the difference come from more meaningful things such as the way the game is played or structured. I'm getting tired of the get 3 things oh wait now you have to get 7 things oh wait now you have to beat the last boss.

People like to play as girls. It's not a big deal.

 

[jb1234]

I put over 90 hours into skyrim. There is quite a bit to enjoy in that game but it's a sad thing when

1) The main story line is the worst quest line in the game
2) The combat is as shallow as it gets

and perhaps the worst offfender

3) so many broken and exploitable systems that completely ruin any real sense of progress

It's very hard to care about anything that happens in Skyrim when there isn't a single memorable NPC in the entire game. That's a big problem with Bethesda. Their writers blow.

(I still got fifty hours out of the game until I realized I was basically doing the same thing over and over again with diminishing returns.)

 

[zeemumu]

I don't see why having Link be a girl is such a wanted thing. Or voice acting for that matter.

Is it just so that the game can be different?

I would rather the difference come from more meaningful things such as the way the game is played or structured. I'm getting tired of the get 3 things oh wait now you have to get 7 things oh wait now you have to beat the last boss.

I don't see the harm in making it an option. No one raises hell about Pokemon doing it and it's not going to decrease the value of your play experience in any way unless you're stubborn as all hell.

 

[FloatOn]

it's because some people would like to play a girl character, myself included. what's the harm?

link is not the same as, say, geralt. He's not a defined character. He doesn't speak. He's just some vague reincarnated hero of legend. He can be anything. You can name him whatever you want in every game. They even called him "Link" because he's the "Link" between the player and the game. He's a conduit. He's just an empty vessel.

because of this, it's just a natural progression to allow there to be a few more choices than just the name. I don't know what the downside is.

no real downside other than potentially losing what makes the Link design iconic.

the game has never been about "role playing" where you design a character from scratch. It's about Link saving Princess Zelda from Ganon. I think to change that formula is to change the identity of what fans fell in love with all those years ago.

Should Mario be a blank canvas for us to customize as we see fit?

I'm all for innovation but it shouldn't come from something so trivial.

 

[Jobbs]

Should Mario be a blank canvas for us to customize as we see fit?

sure, why not? I don't give a shit lol

 

[Misha]

I
The issue isn't more map. It's more map that isn't designed with intent.

I feel like zelda overworlds haven't been worth a damn since link to the past (which remains the best zelda game imo)

Yeah agreed. That goes with the writing like I was saying. They just make some generic terrain and stuff and then throw in whatever and it's the same with main plot beyond being about dragons or other planes there really isn't anything memorable about them


Disagree on that. Not a huge fan of lttp over world. It's sorta hard to make comparisons with 3D games but I preferred Minish cap.
I actually think ocarina of time sorta sucked since hyrule field was incredibly boring and just a place you use to go to the other locations.

no real downside other than potentially losing what makes the Link design iconic.

the game has never been about "role playing" where you design a character from scratch. It's about Link saving Princess Zelda from Ganon. I think to change that formula is to change the identity of what fans fell in love with all those years ago.

Should Mario be a blank canvas for us to customize as we see fit?

I'm all for innovation but it shouldn't come from something so trivial.

Just make a Zelda game with a female link as link. No choice, just do it

 

[SolVanderlyn]

All the 2D Zeldas have good overworlds. Even Zelda 2 and its weird RPG map.

Skyward Sword is the best in the 3D department because it realized how bad the series is at 3D overworlds and decided that if it can't win, it won't play the game at all.

I think female Link is asininely arbitrary and and not only not necessary but a waste of resources on the dev's part. Who gives a shit what gender you are. Does playing as Lara Croft make her less relatable or less interesting because I'm a dude? No? Ok then.

Conversely, if the Link of a particular game was decidedly female with no player input I wouldn't mind

 

[Jobbs]

Mass Effect actually has a defined, speaking, personality-having character and a gender option didn't ruin it.

I simply don't understand the opposition. You don't want to play a girl? Okay. I don't want to play a boy.

I'd probably have already played through Witcher 3 ages ago if I could make my own female character but as it stands I find Geralt so dull that it makes the game uninteresting. Aside from my general preference for women, male lead characters tend to be particularly boring (if not annoying) in video games

 

[Misha]

All the 2D Zeldas have good overworlds. Even Zelda 2 and its weird RPG map.

Skyward Sword is the best in the 3D department because it realized how bad the series is at 3D overworlds and decided that if it can't win, it won't play the game at all.

Wat. It didn't even do a limited over world well

Mass Effect actually has a defined, speaking, personality-having character and a gender option didn't ruin it.

I simply don't understand the opposition. You don't want to play a girl? Okay. I don't want to play a boy.

It did ruin it. It caused people to play the inferior male!sheppard

 

[RobotNinjaHornets]

DnD character created

I think I nailed it

 

[Deleted member 10571]

That's where we are now. Next up will be the background layer and a bunch of gradients at the bottom to make the edges of the ground area look all fancy.
After that, to finish it off, color for the knight and bonfire, and probably the darksign.

It looks super super nice on my actual arm, love it a lot. The white lines seem a bit blurry and thick on the picture, they look way more intricate on the real thing. Probably me shaking the camera.

 

[Misha]

DnD character created

I think I nailed it

My link has a +5 charisma modifier

"Hyaaaa hya hyaaaaa"

So smooth

 

[FloatOn]

Mass Effect actually has a defined, speaking, personality-having character and a gender option didn't ruin it.

I simply don't understand the opposition. You don't want to play a girl? Okay. I don't want to play a boy.

I'd probably have already played through Witcher 3 ages ago if I could make my own female character but as it stands I find Geralt so dull that it makes the game uninteresting. Aside from my general preference for women, male lead characters tend to be particularly boring (if not annoying) in video games

Spoiler: You get to play as a defined female character at various points through Witcher 3.

Changing the visual identity of the character just makes it feel like cheap fan art. Or some Marvel "what if..." scenario

edit - looks really cool bufbaf

Just make a Zelda game with a female link as link. No choice, just do it

Or gasp! have a Zelda game starring Sheik or even Princess Zelda as the protagonist.

 

[trab pu kcip]

DnD character created

I think I nailed it

and my ex-prostitute character Venus Orion is rotting in the archives somewhere. man she was OP.


@buf: neat!

 

[SolVanderlyn]

Spoiler: You get to play as a defined female character at various points through Witcher 3.

Changing the visual identity of the character just makes it feel like cheap fan art. Or some Marvel "what if..." scenario

I think you've hit on the divide between two kinds of game players:

Those who want to play an interactive story

and

Those who want to interactively create their own story through pre-defined, "choose your own adventure" type branching paths.

Gaming has recently been heavily leaning towards the latter audience. I am firmly in the camp of the former. That said, I got some massive enjoyment out of seeing my DA:I Inquisitor and Mass Effect Shepard appear in cutscenes and start talking and being a person. I don't think every game needs that, though. Not at all.

 

[liliththepale]

no real downside other than potentially losing what makes the Link design iconic.

the game has never been about "role playing" where you design a character from scratch. It's about Link saving Princess Zelda from Ganon. I think to change that formula is to change the identity of what fans fell in love with all those years ago.

Should Mario be a blank canvas for us to customize as we see fit?

I'm all for innovation but it shouldn't come from something so trivial.

I mean it's already too late. Have you seen some of the latest art? The iconic Link visage is not going to be the linchpin of this game.

And making Link able to be female isn't changing the formula at all.

Who gives a shit what gender you are.

Clearly the thousands of people asking for it do.

I realize this is harder to appreciate if you're used to usually playing as your own race and gender though.

That's where we are now. Next up will be the background layer and a bunch of gradients at the bottom to make the edges of the ground area look all fancy.
After that, to finish it off, color for the knight and bonfire, and probably the darksign.

It looks super super nice on my actual arm, love it a lot. The white lines seem a bit blurry and thick on the picture, they look way more intricate on the real thing. Probably me shaking the camera.

That's so cool! Thanks for sharing