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February Wrasslin' |OT2| Welcome To The New Era (Beta Version 1.0)

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Stro only speaks truth

You know what happens when I watch shows? I talk about DEM GRAPHICS and DAT ENTRANCEWAY. During the matches I fall asleep!
 

Sokantish

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Yeah, seriously. What a jerk. Not enough gifs you, stro?

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To be fair to my good friend stro, anyone that has to watch all that WCW is going to be a little bit angry. He'll get back to his happy sober self eventually
 

Rapstah

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It's nice that Jesus has moved on to reviewing movies, but He needs to write more about the movie and less about Himself.
 

joelseph

Member
Watching NXT you start seeing and hearing the same people in the crowd week in and week out. I would love to meet the woman that screams bloody murder, she is quite the screamer.
 

strobogo

Banned
To be fair to my good friend stro, anyone that has to watch all that WCW is going to be a little bit angry. He'll get back to his happy sober self eventually

I was sober for a few weeks, but the first thing I did after a blow out at the end of a 1000 mile day was buy a bottle of booze.
 

Rapstah

Member
Watching NXT you start seeing and hearing the same people in the crowd week in and week out. I would love to meet the woman that screams bloody murder, she is quite the screamer.

Maybe they banned the "annoying smark in anti-Cena t-shirt telling children to stop cheering the faces" guy because I haven't noticed him in months now.
 

Batigol

Banned
Natalya is a fine wrestler, but damn is she awful on the mic, just atrocious mic skills, terrible character, everything.

Desperately needs a manager.

Is mic work not something you can improve? It's amazing how bad she is at just talking
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
Is mic work not something you can improve? It's amazing how bad she is at just talking

None of the Harts are particularly good at promos. Owen made up for it by mannerisms, but don't get those confused for promos. Guy was the one responsible for 'leg out of leg.'

You might think Bret had some good promos with Austin, but that's just because Bret was playing himself. A whiny crybaby.
 

Striker

Member
Natalya is a fine wrestler, but damn is she awful on the mic, just atrocious mic skills, terrible character, everything.

Desperately needs a manager.
Lita didn't have a very good speaking voice either. Thrived with getting bumps with the guys and being a slutty heel character.

Nattie's a generic, cookie cutter WWE face in a PG platform. The last type of character trait she had was farting.
 

El-Suave

Member
Silly question time! What is "WWE Superstars"? It looks like a show and it has episodes but I have never really seen it mentioned until the WWE Network. Where would it 'air'?

They have a few shows that are sold to various foreign TV markets. NXT for example has been continuously on TV internationally, while it has been relegated to other distribution methods in the US if I'm not mistaken. Most of these shows have recaps of some RAW and Smackdown stuff so they can keep people vaguely informed who don't get the two main shows on free TV.
The "Superstars" brand wasn't always jobber central, too. Before there was RAW, it was one of the main regular WWE shows that you could watch in Europe next to Prime Time wrestling and/or Saturday Night's Main Event.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
If Terry Gordy was still around, he'd be a good in-ring mentor for Bray. They kinda have a similar look. And Terry could make up for all the shitty wrestling the Rotundas taught them. IRS is shit.
 

Heel

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Here's a silly question. What's everyone's latest theory on WWE letting Bryan Daniel main event WrestleMania, win the title and carry a billion dollar company?
 
Here's a silly question. What's everyone's latest theory on WWE letting Bryan Daniel main event WrestleMania, win the title and carry a billion dollar company?

Main event Mania? Possible, if not likely
Win the title? Coming
Carry the company? Bitch he's doing that now! :p
 
My wife was having none of this "PPV on a Thursday" thing, but I've since watched Emma/Paige on the Network. Amazing match. I love both of those women. How was the rest of arRIVAL? I know I have to watch Zayn/Cesaro. How did Bo/Neville do?

None of the Harts are particularly good at promos. Owen made up for it by mannerisms, but don't get those confused for promos. Guy was the one responsible for 'leg out of leg.'

You might think Bret had some good promos with Austin, but that's just because Bret was playing himself. A whiny crybaby.

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XenoRaven

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Maybe they banned the "annoying smark in anti-Cena t-shirt telling children to stop cheering the faces" guy because I haven't noticed him in months now.
I hope so. That guy was always trying to start stupid chants and has a more punchable face than the Miz.
 
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Deleted member 47027

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Meltzer asked:

"A guy in a major company brought this up in a convo with me the other day, who has smartest and dumbest fan base, WWE, TNA or UFC?"

Considered making a topic about it but that wouldn't be pretty. However a topic like that would be great for getting people who turn their nose up at athletic competition to get slapped.
 
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Deleted member 47027

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WWE Superstars isn't good television. They went from a Hulk Hogan re-cap to a commercial, teasing the Bray Wyatt/Cena confrontation as "next", bridging with an Elimination Chamber re-cap. It's ten minutes of content for an hour of television.

It actually worked real good as a Raw replacement considering we don't get Raws for 30 days, until the TV deals are worked out.
 

Heel

Member
Only in the UFC could you throw a pair of socks and get nuclear heat. By far the dumbest mark crowd of the three.
 

Heel

Member
Main event Mania? Possible, if not likely
Win the title? Coming
Carry the company? Bitch he's doing that now! :p

Do you really think WWE would trot out Bryan for an interview with Katie Couric to promote WrestleMania to normal humans? C'mon breh. Well, maybe with a step stool.
 

XenoRaven

Member
Meltzer asked:

"A guy in a major company brought this up in a convo with me the other day, who has smartest and dumbest fan base, WWE, TNA or UFC?"

Considered making a topic about it but that wouldn't be pretty. However a topic like that would be great for getting people who turn their nose up at athletic competition to get slapped.
I think it depends. I'd say nearly all UFC fans are degenerates, but they're not as stupid as the rednecks that think wrestling is real. But WWE also has some smart fans that just enjoy the spectacle.

I don't think TNA fans are necessarily stupid, just masochistic.
 

joelseph

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Here's a silly question. What's everyone's latest theory on WWE letting Bryan Daniel main event WrestleMania, win the title and carry a billion dollar company?

Why let him win? The crowd response is amazing! How many people are tuning in for RAW just for the crowd reactions? And personally I think his style is boring compared to others. I think the underdog that never wins is the best place to get the most reactions for DB.
 
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Deleted member 47027

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Do you really think WWE would trot out Bryan for an interview with Katie Couric to promote WrestleMania to normal humans? C'mon breh. Well, maybe with a step stool.

He needs a clean cut, strong, respectable man to run as his friend and partner.

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Nebula

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Popping in to drop my thoughts on EC.

Wyatts vs The Shield stole the show. Best match I've seen in ages.

Other matches were nothing special. Bootista looked super gassed, and it felt like he did 3 moves in the entire match.

Chamber was fun, but predictable. #YesMovement is real.
 
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Deleted member 47027

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Well you also gotta consider the Wrestling Truth:

All mentally handicapped people are fans of wrestling, but not all fans of wrestling are mentally handicapped.
 

Scottify

Member
I really like Daniel Bryan as a wrestler, his skills are obviously top notch. I just can't get past his homeless person look that he has going on. I don't know whether to clap for him or throw him some food. Show some pride in your appearance for gods' sake.
 
I really like Daniel Bryan as a wrestler, his skills are obviously top notch. I just can't get past his homeless person look that he has going on. I don't know whether to clap for him or throw him some food. Show some pride in your appearance for gods' sake.

This dude looks like Alan Moore out there
 

XenoRaven

Member
Well you also gotta consider the Wrestling Truth:

All mentally handicapped people are fans of wrestling, but not all fans of wrestling are mentally handicapped.
That's what makes this tough to judge. All UFC fans are stupid, but not handicapped. Do smart wrestling fans have enough intelligence to make the WWE fan base collectively smarter than the UFC fanbase? I say yes, but it's not an easy call.
 

Marvel

could never
I really like Daniel Bryan as a wrestler, his skills are obviously top notch. I just can't get past his homeless person look that he has going on. I don't know whether to clap for him or throw him some food. Show some pride in your appearance for gods' sake.


Looked so much better here, tougher too... I hate his current look.
 
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Deleted member 47027

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I feel like UFC fans want every match to be blood sport .

Wrestling fans have some tempered expectations

It doesn't take much to make a great UFC fight. By and large though you pop for knockouts. That's how it usually goes. There's also incredible fights that end in submissions and even some decision fights that can be phenomenal. It is a roll of the dice though. FUCK MACHIDA'S BORING ASS.
 

strobogo

Banned
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WWE MSG 10/28/91

This show featured Ric Flair's return to MSG after something like 15 years. And LOD main eventing a MSG show.

Texas Tornado vs Big Bully Busick

Bully has to have the greatest mustache in wrestling history. Maybe in all of history. A very young and scrawny Billy Sliverman is the referee for this contest. Tornado has crazy back muscles. It looks like his back has abs. Not a lot going on in this. Bully gets the better of a test of strength. Silverman is counting even though Kerry's shoulder isn't even on the mat. Al calls him out on it and Gorilla says he must have gone to the Hellen Keller school of officiating. Holy shit, RAINMAKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. Bully also did a version of the pedigree in the 80s. Tornado goes into the ring post. Bully comes off the ropes and is caught in THE CLAW. Bully blocks the Tornado Punch. Is the Bully dead? I'd like him to come back and replace Alexander Rusev. A few moments later, Kerry hits the Tornado Punch for the win.

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IRS vs British Bulldog

I expect IRS to be covered in sweat seconds after the first lock up. Irwin surprises Bulldog with a quick body slam to start the match. And then a hip toss. Bulldog responds with two slams, a hip toss, and a lariatoo. A lot of stalling and bailing from IRS. He got dropkicked from behind and bailed some more. Davey locked on a side headlock that was countered with a Saito suplex. IRS changes his abdominal stretch spot up with a head scissors instead. When he gets caught holding the ropes, he bails again. Bulldog is thrown to the floor and into the "steel" stairs that are clearly made of wood. Come on, Al. Abdominal stretch. Of course. Davey nearly gets the win with a cross body. Back to the floor. Possible low blow from IRS. I swear to god I have never seen a wrestler sweat as much as IRS. As a kid, I thought it was probably because he had to wrestle in business wear, but he would sweat like that in the NWA with a singlet or trunks like in his first WWF run. Dude just pours sweat even in jobber matches. Big back drop. Lariatooo. Bulldog ducks another one and IRS goes flying to the floor. Under 3 minutes left in the 20 minute time limit. IRS makes Bulldog chase him around the ring and ends up going head first into the steps. IRS holds on to the ropes to counter act the powerslam and nearly gets the win when Bulldog loses his balance. Irwin finds a tag rope under the ring and puts it in his pocket. He wraps it around Davey's neck. I thought it was a DQ, but apparently Danny Daniels didn't care that much. Bulldog uses the rope himself and then gets a low blow for his trouble. Bulldog does a small package with the time limit expiring at the 2 count. Time limit draw.

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Jim Neidhart vs The Mountie

Oh no. The Mountie is terrible as a singles. Neidhart is terrible as a singles. And now they're in a singles match against each other. Match was really bad. Mountie wins with a roll up and hand full of tights.

Roddy Piper vs Ric Flair

Ric got a standing ovation with just as many cheers as boos. And he's wearing the Big Gold Belt in MSG! Hopefully this isn't like their WCW matches, with Flair's ass hanging out and Piper nearly having a heart attack. This is the first match people have really come to life for and it hasn't even started yet. This footage is so clear you can see the stray shoulder hairs on Flair and Piper's bacne. Flair gets slapped and it stuns him. Piper puts Earl Hebner on the top rope so they can have a fight. Another slap and Flair begs off. These guys don't even have to lock up to get the crowd amped. Gorilla says that it has been a life long dream for Flair to wrestle in the Garden. It's weird how they treated Ric Flair's past. They went as far as they could without saying "He was the NWA Champion", but then wouldn't acknowledge that he had wrestled in the Garden years ago as NWA Champion. Flair's chops fire Piper up to unleash a flurry of punches and slaps. Flair Flop! Flair bails out and Piper follows him around ringside. Flair doing leap frogs and shit. Earl stopping Piper from throwing a closed fist opened up an opportunity for Flair to take a cheap shot. Knee drop. Lol, they're trying Steamboat/Flair spots. Piper totally didn't budge on the first bridge spot and Earl just stopped counting, but he did make it up for the second try. It again heads to the floor, with Flair taking another cheap shot. Piper throws chops and hits the flying knee lift. Flair Flop on the floor. Ric is now begging off. Earl was right in the way of a bulldog and got smashed. A second official enters the match. Flair Flip. BOTH refs somehow missed Flair hitting Piper with a chair. 2 count! Flair gets out of the sleeper right away with a suplex. Lord Al is marking out hard for this. I've never heard him so excited. Neck breaker from Piper. Piper takes Al's chair. Earl takes the chair away from Piper, at which point Flair decked Piper and slingshot himself into the ring under the top rope with his feet on the ropes to make the pin. This was super fun and they really didn't even do much. It wasn't really the typical Flair formula and the crowd was really hot. Liked it a lot. Piper attacked Earl and Flair with the chair after the match and took some swings at agents.

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T O THE MOON(ey). Sean got to speak with Brain and Flair. A challenge was thrown out to Hulk Hogan. WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO, HULK HOGAN, WHEN RIC FLAIR RUNS WILD ON YOU? WHOOOO!

Col. Mustafa vs Big Boss Man

IRS comes to ring side, claiming the match shouldn't happen because the Boss Man is a tax cheat. This allows Sheiky Baby to Pearl Harbor Boss Man. That had to be one of the weirdest gimmick changes. Sheik was a former WWF Champion, very well known, and was around for years. Then they bring him back under a different name and say he's Iraqi after years of Iran Numba One. And no one ever acknowledged it. They acknowledged Flair's NWA run more than this guy who looked just like the Iron Sheik. Sheik uses some kind of international object to jab Boss Man in the throat. Boss Man wins with a spine buster.

Bret Hart vs The Berzerker WWF Intercontinental Championship

HUSS! Someone should have taken Zerk to task for straight up aping Bruiser Brody. He's in control from the get go until he misses a knee drop. A pair of dropkicks sends Zerk over the top, but he gets right back in, only to be sent right back out with a lariato. And then atomic drops. But dude has landed on his feet every time. He comes back in the ring with a headbutt to the gut and a big boot. Shoulder block on the floor. Bret gets cut off every time he tries a come back. Piledriver. Zerk misses a shoulder block in the corner and gets crotched on the ropes. 5MOD begins. Bret ends up winning with a crucifix. Title retained.

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Hercules vs El Matador

Another weird gimmick change, but at least they still acknowledged that it was Tito. Also, dude is Mexican, not Spanish. And was still billed as such. Herc gave up on definition and striations and went strictly for musculature and majesty. I swear I heard a faint boring chant 2 minutes in. Crowd is super dead for this. So much that what I thought was a boring chant was actually just individual cat calls. I agree with those fans, though. This is boring as fuck. Warrior vs Herc was way better, which makes no sense because Tito is a way better wrestler than Warrior. Tito won with the Flying Jalapeno.

LOD vs Natural Disasters WWF Tag Team Championships

Gorilla says that Quake is really cut up. Lol. Hawk and Typhoon begin the match. A double clothesline has neither man budge, but Typhoon hit another one while Hawk was distracted and picking him up in a bear hug like a baby. Hawk gets a boot up in the corner and comes off the second rope with a forearm. Tags are made. I hope Animal powerslams Quake. Flying shoulder block takes Quake down. Animal couldn't hold the slam. Belly to belly suplex, and a beauty. Animal is knocked to the floor. Bear hug. The ref, of course, misses a tag. Hawk accidentally runs over Earl. Powerslam from Quake. Hot tag. Hawk gets chucked into the ring post. Splash from Typhoon and a Tremor from Quake. Instead of making the pin on Animal, the Disasters want to keep squashing him and throw Earl to the floor, causing a disqualification. Hawk hits a double flying lariato to send the Disasters from the ring. Titles retained.

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This is the kind of stuff I want the Network to be showing all the time, more than PPVs or old Raws/Nitros. Even if the matches aren't good. Flair vs Piper was really fun though.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
Bryan is soft spoken, enthusiastic to a fault and would make a fine talk show host. I would prefer if he groomed a bit and cut his hair short, but his appearance turns heads, so why not. I really don't see the problem in having him be the guost on mguestg talk shows to promote Raw or whatever.
 

Kaladin

Member
March |OT| will go up when I get back or wake up tomorrow morning....any way, we'll have a monthly OT go up the first day of the month.

I'm going to NXT....will have a report on the highlights when I get back.
 

Heel

Member
I can imagine David Letterman introducing "WWE superstar Bryan Daniel, who is main eventing WrestleMania 30 this weekend" and having him sit down to an awkward, demeaning silence. David Letterman sporadically laughing and popping the audience, Paul Shafer zinging on his keyboard and asking where Bryan Daniel is, and then cutting to commercial.
 
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