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[nush]

western women fucking hate Eastern European women, they hate them. And they should, because Eastern European women are more attractive, more attentive and are mentally stronger than the trollops you see in the UK and US.

I wish I could find that blog post now lost to the internet sands of time how one guy in South Korea documented the same thing of a few Western women hating, absolutely hating the local south Korean women "Stealing" "their men" and giving up the pussy too easy so men didn't have to work for it.

It wasn't until I started working in SE Asia a few years later that I got to see the attention and dick starved western women for myself.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

I wish I could find that blog post now lost to the internet sands of time how one guy in South Korea documented the same thing of a few Western women hating, absolutely hating the local south Korean women "Stealing" "their men" and giving up the pussy too easy so men didn't have to work for it.

It wasn't until I started working in SE Asia a few years later that I got to see the attention and dick starved western women for myself.

It's crazy, most, not all, but most Western Women think that looks will win them every man over all other women. That just isn't true. A smoking hot bimbo westerner is great for flinging jizz all over for a night or a weekend. But when it comes to hanging out, there's nothing there. Non-western women put their spirituality and mentality above their sexuality and that's what makes them hotter than all hell.

I think western women get caught in the attention trap of horny 20 yr old guys who just want to drain their balls. Guys who want to settle down though want more and these women have never had to offer more. In a way, it's like a sexual autism; they're really good at one thing, but terrible at everything else.

 

[Blade2.0]

I too have had that experience. When I was in South Korea I was getting lots of attention from the ladies, then when I came back to Australia I was noticed most by a variety of Asian ladies (Malaysian, chinese I think, korean). But when I was around Australian women absolutely nothing, and nothing still to this day. So strange.

Yep, I've been with a lot of women now and not a one has been from the states. Mexican, korean, russian, chinese, kenyan (that dick sucking was magical, BTW), Vietnamese, Thai....but can't get a western woman to date me if my life depended on it, lol.

 

[nush]

It's crazy, most, not all, but most Western Women think that looks will win them every man over all other women. That just isn't true. A smoking hot bimbo westerner is great for flinging jizz all over for a night or a weekend. But when it comes to hanging out, there's nothing there. Non-western women put their spirituality and mentality above their sexuality and that's what makes them hotter than all hell.

I think western women get caught in the attention trap of horny 20 yr old guys who just want to drain their balls. Guys who want to settle down though want more and these women have never had to offer more. In a way, it's like a sexual autism; they're really good at one thing, but terrible at everything else.

I've been with women in the "A" looks department and the majority of them have just been pillow princesses. You just walk away thinking, "well she was really fucking fit" but that's the best thing you could say about them. B,C looks wise are always much better at conversation and sex.

he problem is I think that attractive women have had so many guys kissing thier arse and chasing them so much, telling them how amazing and funny they are that thier reality is warped by guys bullshitting them to get some pussy. They probably get told they are amazing in bed too.

That being said when you do get a A looks and A skil at sex it's amazing tho.

 

[nush]

Yep, I've been with a lot of women now and not a one has been from the states. Mexican, korean, russian, chinese, kenyan (that dick sucking was magical, BTW), Vietnamese, Thai....but can't get a western woman to date me if my life depended on it, lol.

 

[Blade2.0]

I mean, I'd at least like to take a dip in the pool even if I hate it.

 

[haxan7]

I mean, I'd at least like to take a dip in the pool even if I hate it.

In my experience women I can personally relate to the most are the ones that facilitate deep emotional connections, ie make me fall in love. I’ve also dated and hooked up with women from all over the globe (the perks of being a decently attractive and successful young man in the dating app era), but the only ones that I actually would say I fell in love with were basically the same as me.

 

[008]

thats another thing that bothers me actually. It’s ok for a woman to say she doesn’t want a fat guy, but if a guy says he doesn’t want a fat woman he’s a pig. Double standards.

screw what society says. I see fat and obese women like me. Throw some kids in there to with some of them to make it more fun.

I’m like, are you f’n kidding me? Look at my photos and profile. Look at yourself. We do not match AT ALL.

I laugh and get a good chuckle. You get the X or immediate left.

 

[nush]

Women are body positive and curvy, men are just fat.

 

[FactoryOfDeception]

Some really pathetic sounding dudes in here. Feel sorry for you.

 

[entremet]

A few things.

The type of person that would see a matchmaker already self selects a level of intensity than a normal person won't have.

I've never met a woman that has needed a matchmaker. That's a special type of person lol.

So I don't buy that women are pickier than before. Could there be a specific "professional" dating demographic that has unrealistic expectations? I can see that.

But ppl make dating too complex. Millions of people "couple" every year. It's not hard. You don't have to be Brad Pitt. Most ppl are average. Stop looking at mega attractive social media influencers to base your dating life on.

It really is just a number game and knowing your demographic. If you're a plumber, don't go after some mega attractive 20 year old social media influencer. This doesn't' mean settling. It just means being more strategic.

This is a good segment that talks about why many women in professional classes are having trouble finding partners:



But some of the Red Pill some have posted here is cringey as AF lol.

 

[IntentionalPun]

People need to stop thinking their experiences add up to something scientifically / statistically significant. Threads like this are always full of real "SCIENCE!" takes.... it's the exact same as women getting cheated on a few times and proclaiming all men are dogs/pigs. There are 4 billion women on this planet, so no.. your handful of relationships do not add up to something you can draw broad conclusions on.

Your experiences are your experiences; focus on learning things about yourself and self improvement from these experiences and not some negative conclusion about the opposite sex and you'll be far more likely to eventually attract someone who meets your needs. Doesn't matter if your ex was a cunt, what did YOU do wrong in that relationship? Self analyze, self improve...

 

[HarryKS]

From my own observations and experience, genuinely good-looking women are more even-keeled and grounded.

Bit of a paradox.

 

[008]

A few things.

The type of person that would see a matchmaker already self selects a level of intensity than a normal person won't have.

I've never met a woman that has needed a matchmaker. That's a special type of person lol.

So I don't buy that women are pickier than before. Could there be a specific "professional" dating demographic that has unrealistic expectations? I can see that.

But ppl make dating too complex. Millions of people "couple" every year. It's not hard. You don't have to be Brad Pitt. Most ppl are average. Stop looking at mega attractive social media influencers to base your dating life on.

It really is just a number game and knowing your demographic. If you're a plumber, don't go after some mega attractive 20 year old social media influencer. This doesn't' mean settling. It just means being more strategic.

This is a good segment that talks about why many women in professional classes are having trouble finding partners:



But some of the Red Pill some have posted here is cringey as AF lol.

You know that 31 year old from the video, with a great job, and an amazing group of friends is picky AF.

Reality? Guys are passing you over for younger women.

 

[entremet]

People need to stop thinking their experiences add up to something scientifically / statistically significant. Threads like this are always full of real "SCIENCE!" takes.... it's the exact same as women getting cheated on a few times and proclaiming all men are dogs/pigs. There are 4 billion women on this planet, so no.. your handful of relationships do not add up to something you can draw broad conclusions on.

Your experiences are your experiences; focus on learning things about yourself and self improvement from these experiences and not some negative conclusion about the opposite sex and you'll be far more likely to eventually attract someone who meets your needs. Doesn't matter if your ex was a cunt, what did YOU do wrong in that relationship? Self analyze, self improve...

A lot of this science in relationship stuff is basically risk mitigation.

Truth is relationships are risky. You can get hurt. People cope in different ways. Some swear them off. Others hook on to weird philosophies.

Some do the Red Pill stuff as a way to "game" the system of romantic relationships. It's a moot point, though. Relationships are messy. Every person is different. Every relationship is different. Humans are wonderfully complex and contradictory. That's human nature.

There is no "one trick to let you get the girl" lol.

 

[Starlight Lotice]

Women are chaotic by nature. Their sexual liberalization has allowed them to express their chaotic nature in an unrestrained manner.

This is why through out history, society placed strict social rules for women, they were aware of what would happen to the well being of a society if these rules weren't enforced.

We live in chaotic times which will not last indefinitely, a reform towards older habits will happen in the future.

If women are pathologically unhappy with every choice given by their newly acquired freedom during these last decades, then society and men will decide for them once again.

Chaos can't be allowed to be let free forever, eventually, for the survival of a society, is must be restrained.

 

[thefool]

So I don't buy that women are pickier than before. Could there be a specific "professional" dating demographic that has unrealistic expectations? I can see that.

if you don't think girls are pickier online you never used online dating.

There's a big line between saying, "young kids stop relying so much on tech and try to socialize in person" vs muh redpill and incels. Both boys and girls are reporting having less sex every year, and we live a world more connected than ever. Why do you think that is? Do you know young guys that refuse to have sex?

Any girl today with ig has hundreds of people who are interested in her. They are pickier because they can be. Anyone would behave similarly under those conditions.

 

[Tesseract]

only standard i have is fitness, it's not asking much for women to keep active and stay away from bad food

 

[pixelation]

Rain is wet!

 

[entremet]

if you don't think girls are pickier online you never used online dating.

There's a big line between saying, "young kids stop relying so much on tech and try to socialize in person" vs muh redpill and incels. Both boys and girls are reporting having less sex every year, and we live a world more connected than ever. Why do you think that is? Do you know young guys that refuse to have sex?

Any girl today with ig has hundreds of people who are interested in her. They are pickier because they can be. Anyone would behave similarly under those conditions.

You sound like every woman has thirsty dudes after her. Moreover, put yourself on their shoes. Do you pursue every women that is eligible? No. There’s attraction, chemistry, and personality fit.

 

[thefool]

You sound like every woman has thirsty dudes after her. Moreover, put yourself on their shoes. Do you pursue every women that is eligible? No. There’s attraction, chemistry, and personality fit.

If you have any young female friend, with a non-private instagram, between 18-28 just ask her how many dm's from strangers she gets. Mostly creepy dudes but there's always a load of decently looking normal guys also chasing them. I'm not saying girls act on it, but they have far more access to meet male partners they ever had and are naturally pickier because...they can. Do the same question to guys.

I'm the best example of how that access changed my life. I was a normal dude who had 1 serious relationship and would go out with girls (very) occasionally, bit of dorky and shy and then tinder showed up. I've met and had sex with more girls in 1 year than I imagined I would ever have my entire life. But the online dating game and some societal changes we have been through and how we interact with each other is naturally skewing how bonds are formed.
You are grooming an entire generation of sexually frustrated guys and (to a lesser extent) girls and it's going to have all kinds of disastrous consequences. You're literally producing incels and expecting no consequences.

 

[thefool]

This was from the ockupid study in 2009 of how women and men perceived each other on the platform.

 

[nush]

I'm the best example of how that access changed my life. I was a normal dude who had 1 serious relationship and would go out with girls (very) occasionally, bit of dorky and shy and then tinder showed up. I've met and had sex with more girls in 1 year than I imagined I would ever have my entire life.

Truth here, but I also think a factor is that we learned the skillset required before the apps. The apps just enabled us to have a wider reach.

I wonder how many guys fail becuse of the topless mirror selfie,"Hey" and a dick pic approach? Then blame women only wanting the top 5% of men.

 

[Raven117]

When you are talking with women in a buddy like way like I can with my sister you will soon notice that this is normal.
You will always just be the stand in for their dream prince whom they imagine their perfect life with.
Your wife usually won't tell u that off course (if she hasn't completely beta'ed you already and despises you anyway, because then she might drop you a hint. I heard stories from married friends that are sickening).

Like I wrote above, I have many many years of long term relationships under my belt, have two beautiful sons, and can get someone to fuck if I want to. Definitely not an incel who is telling you this shit.

You have run into some awful women.

Not all women are like this. At least not where I am from.

Some are though. But if you are 30 and can’t spot them within minutes of meeting them, then I don’t know what to tell you

 

[nyr88nyg]

I’ve always kept my standards high too so I haven’t had a problem with women doing so.

A bigger problem for me is western women wanting everything equal except for labor. They want to be paid the same, but don’t want to do the same amount of work.

 

[Croatoan]

My wife and I met on match 7 years ago. Online dating was just as bad then as it is now. My wife was still in college at the time and her friend signed her up on match as a joke. I am fairly certain she only went on a date with me because I was in the best shape of my life at the time and confident in our emails. I am 5' 9" if your curious.

I knocked our first date out if the park mostly because I played it appropriately aloof and kept her taking for like 3 hours.

My wife told me she never expected me to call her again because I didn't seem that interested. The thing is, I very much was interested because she is better looking than I am and interesting to talk to. I waited a week before calling her again and she was surprised I asked her on the second date. We have been nearly inseparable since that night (we've never really slept apart staring that night).

I tell you this because online dating does work and there are some women that know what they want even if they don't expect to find it.

All of her sororiety sisters are like the women described by the OP, and even my wife (5' 1") has only dated 6' 3" -ish dudes before me. She agrees that the height thing is ridiculous and shallow.

My biggest piece of advice is to never let a girl know you like her before she starts to like you. Women like things they don't think they can have.

 

[eot]

This is a good segment that talks about why many women in professional classes are having trouble finding partners:



But some of the Red Pill some have posted here is cringey as AF lol.

Gimmie them smart women. Miami here I come?

 

[FreedomOfSpeech]

So when they say that women finish college education more and so on, do they mean bullshit degrees like women's studies? Or things like astrophysics or math.

 

[Reptars Revenge]

This was from the ockupid study in 2009 of how women and men perceived each other on the platform.

Loll do you have the link for this study

 

[Blade2.0]

This was from the ockupid study in 2009 of how women and men perceived each other on the platform.

Men got that bell curve like you're supposed to have.

 

[Johnny Silver]

You haven't counter argued my statements nor were they proven false.

You just posted an image in an attempt to aim for emotional impact. Try harder.

And yes, the sexual depravity practiced by a substantial portion of modern women today along with their infantilization, concerning their ignorance towards their rights and duties, must end. If not, then society will self destruct.

The destruction of the nuclear family is a symptom of this.

 

[Johnny Silver]

Men got that bell curve like you're supposed to have.

Men follow a balanced bell curve.

Women follow pareto's law. It's a reflection of their natural hypergamy tendencies and desire to "trade-up".

Modern social media, dating apps and dating practices unfortunately make women forget that there is a very limited amount of "perfect" 10 out of 10 men that fit in those 20 to 10% at the end of pareto's curve. If all women aim only for those limited men, then there will be a disproportional amount of women competing for a very limited number of men, while the remaining, more average men, are left in the dust.

Picture the following, women overvalue themselves, because they think they can be "material" for the very best of men, those 10 out of 10 men. Unfortunately for women, only the very few 10 out 10 women will have a decent shot with those men. But the 5 -7 out 10 women convince themselves that they deserve those 10 out of 10 men.

Hence the displacement, in accordance with pareto's law, that we see in that statistical distribution.

 

[supernova8]

Slightly off-topic, but does anyone else find it weird that women can get away with putting things on their Tinder profiles like "only date black guys" and yet if a guy were to write Asian girls only" he would be absolutely torn apart. Have seen it many times. If a woman do it, she's expressing her personal preferences, but when a guy does it, he's a racist, sexual predator who has a fetish for a particular race or something along those lines.

 

[Stiflers Mom]

Not all women are like this. At least not where I am from.

Or maybe they just won't tell you..

 

[nush]

My biggest piece of advice is to never let a girl know you like her before she starts to like you.

I heard that a long time ago "Never tell a woman you love her first". I forget what the context or source was, but I've always stuck to it. But what a suprise it is to have a woman claim you said it to them first during a breakup.

 

[South]

Slightly off-topic, but does anyone else find it weird that women can get away with putting things on their Tinder profiles like "only date black guys" and yet if a guy were to write Asian girls only" he would be absolutely torn apart. Have seen it many times. If a woman do it, she's expressing her personal preferences, but when a guy does it, he's a racist, sexual predator who has a fetish for a particular race or something along those lines.

wait are you telling me there are double standards!! I have to sit down - this is too much to take - i thought SJW wanted equality?

 

[Stiflers Mom]

Slightly off-topic, but does anyone else find it weird that women can get away with putting things on their Tinder profiles like "only date black guys" and yet if a guy were to write Asian girls only" he would be absolutely torn apart. Have seen it many times. If a woman do it, she's expressing her personal preferences, but when a guy does it, he's a racist, sexual predator who has a fetish for a particular race or something along those lines.

I told a girl on Tinder once, that she is too small after she told me she is only like 5 feet 3 or something.
Got the answer what a shallow asshole I am for telling her that.

Yet personally she wanted only men above 6 feet 4 as stated in her profile text..

 

[Amory]

Idk that theyre too high. Girls usually date/marry up or at least across. They can afford to be choosier than men, anyway.

She'll get a lot of views on the video though

 

[thefool]

Loll do you have the link for this study

they magically deleted old data-driven posts. You can still find it here

Your Looks and Your Inbox – The OkCupid Blog

How men and women perceive attractiveness

web.archive.org

 

[Roronoa Zoro]

A few things.

The type of person that would see a matchmaker already self selects a level of intensity than a normal person won't have.

I've never met a woman that has needed a matchmaker. That's a special type of person lol.

So I don't buy that women are pickier than before. Could there be a specific "professional" dating demographic that has unrealistic expectations? I can see that.

But ppl make dating too complex. Millions of people "couple" every year. It's not hard. You don't have to be Brad Pitt. Most ppl are average. Stop looking at mega attractive social media influencers to base your dating life on.

It really is just a number game and knowing your demographic. If you're a plumber, don't go after some mega attractive 20 year old social media influencer. This doesn't' mean settling. It just means being more strategic.

This is a good segment that talks about why many women in professional classes are having trouble finding partners:



But some of the Red Pill some have posted here is cringey as AF lol.

Why would it matter what their job is? Blue collar guys can provide fine and usually know more how to fix and maintain cars and various parts of the house. My sister married a guy who dropped out of WVU after a year and they've been super happy for years and he runs his own business and he's awesome.

 

[Starlight Lotice]

You haven't counter argued my statements nor were they proven false.

You just posted an image in an attempt to aim for emotional impact. Try harder.

And yes, the sexual depravity practiced by a substantial portion of modern women today along with their infantilization, concerning their ignorance towards their rights and duties, must end. If not, then society will self destruct.

The destruction of the nuclear family is a symptom of this.

I was just making a joke.

I wasn't counter arguing anything, just your ridiculous claim that women should be controlled more my men. That image is what we used to do to women who spoke too much.

Cry harder.

 

[Hypnosekroete]

Women are not worth the effort.
Staying alone i can make everything i want in peace. Except sex, but i can just put on my Oculus Go or if i really need go to a hooker (not now, cause of Corona).
Farting all i want, getting up at 6am and go to the gym, working in shift, no need to buy a big house, playing games, no nagging.
Pure Peace.

I love these mgtow channels: Better Bachlor, Coach Greg Adams, Undead Chronic, Terrence Popp and for german speaker the new Coach Magic Channel.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Women's standards aren't "too high".

Their standards are too shallow.

But the modern Western woman makes excuses for anything and everything, as long as it doesn't point back to herself.

 

[entremet]

Why would it matter what their job is? Blue collar guys can provide fine and usually know more how to fix and maintain cars and various parts of the house. My sister married a guy who dropped out of WVU after a year and they've been super happy for years and he runs his own business and he's awesome.

it was an example. Which is why I used influencer. That not a normal person lol.

Didn't say it couldn't happen. Just talking about odds. I'm not going after female celebrities for example. It would be a waste of time.

 

[FreedomOfSpeech]

Women are not worth the effort.
Staying alone i can make everything i want in peace. Except sex, but i can just put on my Oculus Go or if i really need go to a hooker (not now, cause of Corona).
Farting all i want, getting up at 6am and go to the gym, working in shift, no need to buy a big house, playing games, no nagging.
Pure Peace.

You see, if you are holding in your farts you buy into her frame. You are placating her. You have already lost control.

Don't deny your biology to please a woman, it can only lead to failure.

 

[Johnny Silver]

I was just making a joke.

I wasn't counter arguing anything, just your ridiculous claim that women should be controlled more my men. That image is what we used to do to women who spoke too much.

Cry harder.

I never said women would be controlled by men.

I said the chaotic nature had to be out under control. This can come through many ways.

There's informal societal norms that could be adopted.

A counter movement to oppose the modern feminist narrative, but this new movement has to come from women. This new movement would value femininity, respect and love towards the family and men (something the current feminist movement abhors).

If any laws where to be passed, if would have to be laws that would rearrange the current dreadful marriages and divorce laws. Eliminate the perverse incentives that make many women today screw men in marriages.

I never said putting a chasticity belt or something of the like, with ironically is now being used voluntarely by some women as a protection measure in places like Cologne, after the sexual abuse and rape suffered some years ago.

So the image you have shown doesn't even have to be forced upon them, women are already resorting to such methods out of desperation and a need for safety.

 

[Raven117]

Or maybe they just won't tell you..

You don’t have to be told some of these things

 

[Turnt]

Women are not worth the effort.
Staying alone i can make everything i want in peace. Except sex, but i can just put on my Oculus Go or if i really need go to a hooker (not now, cause of Corona).
Farting all i want, getting up at 6am and go to the gym, working in shift, no need to buy a big house, playing games, no nagging.
Pure Peace.

I love these mgtow channels: Better Bachlor, Coach Greg Adams, Undead Chronic, Terrence Popp and for german speaker the new Coach Magic Channel.

MGTOW just seems like less self-aware incels. At least incels have the decency to hate themselves because no one wants to fuck them.

 

[StormCell]

If Brad Pitt or Michael Fassbender decide to date 56 yo woman, married or not, you wish her well and are happy for her.

I was going to chime in something like this. Some husbands who really love their wives might even bury their pride and try to help her however they can. Love is a mysterious thing.

 

[008]

Why would it matter what their job is? Blue collar guys can provide fine and usually know more how to fix and maintain cars and various parts of the house. My sister married a guy who dropped out of WVU after a year and they've been super happy for years and he runs his own business and he's awesome.

Because if you’re using a dating app or matchmaker women will judge you.

I work in tech and I’ve had women call me a nerd before meeting.