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[Metalmurphy]

Played it with a friend all day today and... I don't like the new tactical defending system. It's so easy to get past defenders now. Made for some really frustrating games.

Anyone else getting weird stuttering in the PC version? Fraps says the game is running at 60fps but it looks more like 20fps with the stutter.

running on HD 5750.

There's a fix a couple of pages back. Works wonders.

 

[SumGamer]

FYI, demo is up on PSN US. Search for it.

 

[sneaky77]

. I don't like the new tactical defending system. It's so easy to get past defenders now. Made for some really frustrating games.

Probably a matter of getting used to it

 

[user8503492]

Nobody is doing a PS3 club?

I'd love to start one or be part of one, I'm sure we could get something going. If the 360 users can make 2 or 3 teams I'm sure we could pull 6, 8, or more intrested PS3 users together.

Anyone?

 

[Pctx]

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god dammit.

 

[besiktas1]

Need to get used to defending. I like it. Now requires skill.

OT; pro evo demo is out.

 

[Kabuki Waq]

well the screen sleep thing helped a little but i still get stuttering. ugh wtf.

 

[DominoKid]

New defending is crap. I bought the last 4 FIFAs but I will not be buying this.

 

[Toma]

Nobody is doing a PS3 club?

I'd love to start one or be part of one, I'm sure we could get something going. If the 360 users can make 2 or 3 teams I'm sure we could pull 6, 8, or more intrested PS3 users together.

Anyone?

Lets collect PS3 Gaffers in a thread for casual or tournament play first, lets see how many of those want to jump into a club later.

 

[Koralsky]

Lets collect PS3 Gaffers in a thread for casual or tournament play first, lets see how many of those want to jump into a club later.

I'm in

 

[SuperSonic1305]

This game is hard. I can't score a single goal and my tackles get danced around 99% of the time.

 

[Saren is Bad]

New defending is crap. I bought the last 4 FIFAs but I will not be buying this.

brosef, you are judging the defending controls on 3 minute halves, and not even on real people

i dont really like the new mechanics but im at least going to play some friends in some actual matches in order to accurately see how it affects the game

BUT WHAT DO I KNOW ILL PLAY THE SHIT OUT OF IT ANYWAYS

 

[LegoArmo]

I figured the defending out, don't use A at all, sorted.

 

[rvy]

People who are having trouble with the tactical defending can always change to legacy defending, which is exactly the same as in previous games.

 

[Qatar]

New defending is crap. I bought the last 4 FIFAs but I will not be buying this.

there is an option to turn the new defending system off in the demo

for me the new defending system is better, now we will know who's the expert and who's not
but I hope in matchmaking they let you with people who play the same as your settings

 

[Toma]

77% download finished. Come oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon. Its 2 am over here and I dont give a flying crap until I've tested this game.

 

[rvy]

I'm hoping that the majority of people adopt tactical defending though, it's way too easy with legacy. And this way 13 year olds can't pressure you as soon as you're on counter attack.

 

[leng jai]

You have to use tactical defending online, no?

 

[Toma]

I'm hoping that the majority of people adopt tactical defending though, it's way too easy with legacy. And this way 13 year olds can't pressure you as soon as you're on counter attack.

You can only play ranked with tactical defending anyway, didnt they say that? Having a unified system for all ranked matches?

You have to use tactical defending online, no?

Yup, exactly what I thought.

 

[DominoKid]

there is an option to turn the new defending system off in the demo

whats the point of doing that? you cant play ranked without it.

 

[rvy]

You can only play ranked with tactical defending anyway, didnt they say that? Having a unified system for all ranked matches?



Yup, exactly what I thought.

Oh, good. I'm set for some actual fun this year then.

 

[JWong]

whats the point of doing that? you cant play ranked without it.

 

[cartoon_soldier]

Any idea on configuring PC controls properly?

 

[Cardigan]

Any idea on configuring PC controls properly?

buy a controller/gamepad

 

[QVT]

I agree with the people hating it after playing a lot; the new defending is one of the most ridiculous things they could have come up with. Bad enough that most other things about the game are steps back, but really.
You're at any given point responsible for:

Selecting a player (haphazard at best)
Jockey
Contain
Sprint
Call Second Defender
Actually being in the right position to press the tackle button
Actually pressing the tackle button at exactly the right second

I think everyone actually wanted was to make the old system have some kind of drawback instead of an entire overhaul. Maybe if pressing with two defenders for 90 minutes actually made the team tired or got them out of position ever. Instead we get a spaceship piloting stand-in.

 

[sneaky77]

I have no actual issues with the new defending, I like it, and I think after people get a few games in it won't be that bad.

Game looks nice and plays pretty good, that's my impression on the first 4 or 5 games I played.

 

[leng jai]

Defending against Messi is going to be a nightmare now

 

[SuperÑ]

So, i press RB to sent a teammate towards the man with the ball, but he'll only do containing measures, not taking the ball away? That's bullshit.

 

[zou]

Needs more ugly 80s graphics, flashes and animations. Also, not enough fifa 11 discs annoying the hell out of me.

Loving the delayed reactions as well, so awesome losing the ball because it takes the players 1-2 seconds to react to my controls.

This looks like an uglier version of fifa 10 so far.

 

[DominoKid]

I agree with the people hating it after playing a lot; the new defending is one of the most ridiculous things they could have come up with. Bad enough that most other things about the game are steps back, but really.
You're at any given point responsible for*:

Selecting a player (haphazard at best)
Jockey
Contain
Sprint
Call Second Defender
Actually being in the right position to press the tackle button
Actually pressing the tackle button at exactly the right second

I think everyone actually wanted was to make the old system have some kind of drawback instead of an entire overhaul. Maybe if pressing with two defenders for 90 minutes actually made the team tired or got them out of position ever. Instead we get a spaceship piloting stand-in.

i totally and completely agree

especially with the bolded

and that's not even mentioning that you're supposed to do this on reaction.

shit is ridiculous. i can literally feel my brain sizzling

 

[Menelaus]

So, i press RB to sent a teammate towards the man with the ball, but he'll only do containing measures, not taking the ball away? That's bullshit.

You're the unskilled player this change was made to protect us from! WHERE'S MUH EASY BUTTON, EA?!!!

Also, protip for people who are shit at defending: swap the RB and A buttons. You'll never need to sprint while containing, and the default config makes it nearly impossible to sprint while calling a defender to the ball carrier.

 

[xintin]

any team/stadium unlocks like last year's demo?

 

[Awesome Animals]

I have no actual issues with the new defending, I like it, and I think after people get a few games in it won't be that bad.

Game looks nice and plays pretty good, that's my impression on the first 4 or 5 games I played.

Agreed, I like the system overall. It probably helps that I used jockey a lot in H2H. Plus once you get the timing down of the tackle button, it works well.

 

[Toma]

Agreed, I like the system overall. It probably helps that I used jockey a lot in H2H. Plus once you get the timing down of the tackle button, it works well.

Yeah, I am on the "Pro" side of the fence for now as well. Quite a bit of relearning to be done, but it works rather well if I can concentrate on everything I need to do to pull defending of. I'll train on this Demo until my fingers bleed to nail the defending.

 

[Menelaus]

Have you guys watched a replay with extreme closeups? Loving the veins bulging in the neck as people run, awesome little detail.

 

[elsk]

You guys should remember this is a demo like 1 month and a half old+, the final game is going to be pretty different. In a review I saw, the guy says impact engine and other things were not so good in the demo (gamescom), but in the actual game (well, 90% code) it feels awesome.

So, we should try the final game to say what sucks and what doesn't suck

 

[SumGamer]

This new system really troubles me. In FIFA11 I usually press with the second player while positioning myself to defend the intending receiver. Most people I play with sprint a lot so I gotta do jockey sprint to keep up with that.

Now It's impossible to do that because I cant force the second player to fight for the ball. If I switch to the second player to tackle, I'll lose control of the one I'm positioning against a pass/cross (bear in mind that most of the time if you switch player out of your control, he like to run back to his position in formation and not the player he should be defending).

I like the contain and tackle as a separate function (I do this in 11 anyway with Jockey and only tackle when appropriate) but shouldn't I have the same option for the second defender and not just containing? Unless they make the AI smarter against crossing (which is super deadly in 11, any early-cross-a-lot players here?) this is a deal breaker.

World Class AI I played against in the demo seems improved tho, not sure if true. Will save my judgement for the full game. Now it will be very difficult to go back to 11, but for a strange reason.

 

[sneaky77]

This new system really troubles me. In FIFA11 I usually press with the second player while positioning myself to defend the intending receiver.
.

and that's why they are changing the way the defense system is...

 

[Pctx]

For the little bitches complaining about the new defending system... go watch an EPL game or La Liga and do you see two defenders hone in on a person and simply push them out of the way and take the ball 100% of the time?

People who are complaining about not being able to press button XYZ and take the ball away from an opponent shouldn't be playing or judging the quality of soccer games period.

 

[speedpop]

I'd say if you suck at defending or you've always selected pro-offensive teams, you're most likely not going to enjoy the new defensive system. Time to brush up on them skills!

I agree with the people hating it after playing a lot; the new defending is one of the most ridiculous things they could have come up with. Bad enough that most other things about the game are steps back, but really.
You're at any given point responsible for:

Selecting a player (haphazard at best)
Jockey
Contain
Sprint
Call Second Defender
Actually being in the right position to press the tackle button
Actually pressing the tackle button at exactly the right second

I think everyone actually wanted was to make the old system have some kind of drawback instead of an entire overhaul. Maybe if pressing with two defenders for 90 minutes actually made the team tired or got them out of position ever. Instead we get a spaceship piloting stand-in.

 

[Menelaus]

People who are complaining about not being able to press button XYZ and take the ball away from an opponent shouldn't be playing or judging the quality of soccer games period.

Pretty much reiterating what I said...people who don't have any skill at defending are the ones affected by this change. The rest of us that are sick of no-talent human defenders dispossessing us by holding a button (and literally any direction on the stick) are cheering this change.

 

[Metalmurphy]

Calling a second defender is pretty much useless as he never tackles like they do in FIFA 10/11. They just stand there 1 meter from the other player.

 

[hlhbk]

I tried out the demo on 360 and PC, and the PC version is identical to the console version as promised. I love it, and the graphics are pretty good. It runs at 60 FPS.

 

[Awesome Animals]

Calling a second defender is pretty much useless as he never tackles like they do in FIFA 10/11. They just stand there 1 meter from the other player.

Which is kind of the point...and what we are currently discussing..


What's more is the system forces you to clear the ball when you regain possession in the box...I like that.

 

[Pctx]

Calling a second defender is pretty much useless as he never tackles like they do in FIFA 10/11. They just stand there 1 meter from the other player.

The point of calling a second defender in is to pressure them so that you controlling a player can make the steal.... WTF are you people smoking? If a slide tackle or even lunges and gets beat, what is the point of the added pressure?

 

[cartoon_soldier]

lol David Villa kept running in circles around a player after scoring a goal trying to find someone to celebrate with

 

[D4Danger]

lol David Villa kept running in circles around a player after scoring a goal trying to find someone to celebrate with

the celebrations are comedy gold

I scored a goal playing as Man City and a computer controlled Tevez ran about 40 yards, pushed somebody over then rugby tackled my player to the floor inside the goal. Then the keeper fell on top of us.

 

[QVT]

Pretty much reiterating what I said...people who don't have any skill at defending are the ones affected by this change. The rest of us that are sick of no-talent human defenders dispossessing us by holding a button (and literally any direction on the stick) are cheering this change.

Like I said, I'm glad you're okay with it!! I'm a little worried that my skill moves don't work like they used to but I can relearn.

 

[Vard]

FYI, demo is up on PSN US. Search for it.

Sweet, thanks for the update. Downloading as soon as I get home.

 

[Awesome Animals]

AI is too successful on crossing and scoring on headers. While it isn't easy as a human player. I'm not sure how I feel about the shooting...It seems so delicate and scoring outside the box seems impossible.

Playing on World Class and Legendary.