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FIFA 12 - Previews, Updates, Impressions, et cetera

adelante

Member
Cornballer said:
Errr, not exactly. I'm talking a geographic split - maybe East of the Mississippi and West of the Mississippi? It just seems like keeping the regions a little tighter is going to help us all out.
I thought they were trying to find people closer matchups this year - e.g. if you're playing in North America, you'd be much more likely to face opponents from here. Not sure if I'm remembering that correctly...
On top of what QVT's already mentioned, they've only said this much about matchmaking (posted earlier, you might have seen it):

A lot of the problems people have experienced with FIFA 11 comes down to people being inappropriately matched for games. FIFA 12 will include improved matchmaking to prevent less than ideal matchups. Additionally, we have moved authentication and matchmaking servers (what we call ‘central’ servers) to Europe now, which will mean logging in and navigating online screens should be much snappier for most people.

http://forum.ea.com/uk/posts/list/933577.page

My club would usually get matched up against others from HongKong or Japan but it's pretty rare that we get to play home games. And I think this is because the Asia server (the one that hosts our games and not the central server that handles matchmaking) is located in HongKong and it picks whoever's nearest to be on the home side. So in the few instances where we ARE playing home, it's only because we got matched up against a bunch of dudes all the way in Europe. Those guys would be lagging like shit (pretty obvious when they quit early or make tons of silly mistakes) and it's most likely due to the fact our games are hosted by that same HongKong server.

Something else that I've noticed is how the matchmaking seems to expand the ping range gradually while it's searching for potential clubs. So if we haven't found anyone to play with after 10 seconds, we'd hit cancel and do the search again to make sure we'd be matched up against the closest club (lowest ping)

ANYWAY, a few offscreen gameplay videos from last week's public playtest:

ManUtd VS ManCity (1v1): http://youtu.be/vq1xENUfP2I?hd=1
ManCity VS Barca (1v1): http://youtu.be/soyWFqn_OwQ?hd=1&t=5s
Milan VS Barca (1v1):http://youtu.be/4HaILCaXwD4?hd=1

In other news, they've confirmed the list of sliders available in the game. Good to know you're able to tweak these in the middle of a match but I still stand by my opinion that those positioning stats belong in the formation/tactics settings:

EA are introducing sliders this year to allow you to customise your own experience. Each slider can be changed for both the user and CPU teams seperately and can be done, on the fly, mid match.

Sprint Speed
Modifies the maximum sprint speed a team can reach.
Acceleration
Modifies the time it takes for a teams player to reach their maximum speed.
Shot Error
Increases/Reduces the amount of error applied to a teams normal shots. This doesn’t affect other types of shots (i.e finesse).
Pass Error
Increases/Reduces the amount of error applied to a teams ground passes. This does not affect other types of passes.
Shot Speed
Increases/reduces the amount of speed applied to a teams normal shots. This doesn’t affect other types of shots (i.e finesse).
Pass Speed
Increases/reduces the amount of speed applied to a teams ground passes. This doesn’t affect other types of passes.
Injury Frequency
Increases/reduces the frequency that injuries occur within a team.
Injury Severity
When a player from a team gets an injury, this will increase/reduce the severity.
Goalkeeper Ability
Increases/reduces the saving ability of the goalkeeper.
Positioning: Marking
Increases/decreases how tightly the defenders mark their opponents.
Positioning: Run frequency
Increases/decreases the number of runs teammates will make.
Positioning: Line height
Specifies how high/low the defensive line will positions themselves for a team.
Positioning: Line Length
Specifies how stretched or compact the team will try to keep their line for the pitch.
Positioning: Line width
Specifies how stretched or compact the team will try to keep for the width of the pitch.
Positioning: Fullback Positioning
Increases/decreases how far the teams fullbacks will push forward.
Power bar
Modifies how quickly/slowly the power bar fills up when you request any type of pass or shot.

It will take a while for people to find the sweet spots for settings, and everyones will probably be pretty different, but we’ll gather a list of what people are using post launch.

http://fifasoccerblog.com/blog/fifa-12-gameplay-sliders
 
already decided, once demo comes ill trade in 11 and get a points card to buy the season pass. that'll give me a few days head start on learning the quirks of the new game. muahhaha
 
Holy shit! De Jonged

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Majukun

Member
Toma said:
Hm a bit pointless really if you dont get any reward for it that your team got 1st or something.

On the other hand, if there were rewards, people would probably just switch to the "best" team, so thats probably a bad idea as well.

well,football is passion,and i know many people here in Italy that will play this mode ONLY to see their favorite team in first/good position,even if it's meaningless

i'm very excited about the scenario mode...i loved that mode in the olds "i.s.s."
 

Kinan

Member
God damned, just saw the full team list - they removed more than they added. :/ Turkey and Czech leagues got cutted, as well as (*sob) Ukrainian national team. :( I would cancel my preoreder if I could. :(
 

Mascot

Member
Starting to get excited for FIFA 12 now. Certainly looks like there's a lot of improvements in key areas (or so they tell us).

I just fucking KNOW that host advantage in ranked matches is going to kill me once again though. Will this finally be the year I put my boot through my telly?
 

QVT

Fair-weather, with pride!
Mascot said:
Starting to get excited for FIFA 12 now. Certainly looks like there's a lot of improvements in key areas (or so they tell us).

I just fucking KNOW that host advantage in ranked matches is going to kill me once again though. Will this finally be the year I put my boot through my telly?

Why does everyone believe there is a host advantage in every game? I have never seen anything like that in FIFA.
 

Vard

Member
QVT said:
Why does everyone believe there is a host advantage in every game? I have never seen anything like that in FIFA.
I haven't noticed (still haven't) or heard anything like that either, before this thread.
 

LegoArmo

Member
Menelaus said:
Bunch of UK players maybe getting awful lag when their host is NA?
I play a friend from Canada and I'm in the UK, lag is very rare, and when it's there it effects both of us equally. Or at least he says he gets it too.
 
There is no host advantage, there is you having a shitty connection or your opponent having a shitty connection. (protip: don't play FIFA on wifi, that WILL make you punt your television)
 

adelante

Member
Yep, never experienced host advantage myself. I think the matchmaking server only does the initial handshake and then game is completely hosted between the 2 players after that? Never really bugged me anyway
 

sneaky77

Member
QVT said:
Why does everyone believe there is a host advantage in every game? I have never seen anything like that in FIFA.

there isnt one I don't think, sometimes connections are shitty, it happens. If you're playing australia, is likely to happen more if you're in NA



rvy said:

94 and 91% passing? I see Over the top thru balls are still alive and well.. ugh.

overall seems to play better than 11 though.
 

JWong

Banned
sneaky77 said:
94 and 91% passing? I see Over the top thru balls are still alive and well.. ugh.

overall seems to play better than 11 though.
Seems weird because a lot of passes seem to have been intercepted.
 

liger05

Member
Kinan said:
God damned, just saw the full team list - they removed more than they added. :/ Turkey and Czech leagues got cutted, as well as (*sob) Ukrainian national team. :( I would cancel my preoreder if I could. :(

Turkish FA no longer do the deal and EA have to negotiate with each club individually so thats why turkish club are out.

Gameplay doesnt look that good to me. EA really need to remove fully assisted settings. It ruins the game!!

Career mode at last looks like it will be good and that could be enough to make me buy Fifa 12.
 

rvy

Banned
Vard said:
This is 1v1 with 2 humans playing, right? How come the goal kicks' camera angle is the single player one (behind the GK) instead of the usual 1v1 broadcast camera angle?
Because it's 2 humans playing?
 

JWong

Banned
liger05 said:
Turkish FA no longer do the deal and EA have to negotiate with each club individually so thats why turkish club are out.

Gameplay doesnt look that good to me. EA really need to remove fully assisted settings. It ruins the game!!

Career mode at last looks like it will be good and that could be enough to make me buy Fifa 12.
Uh you can switch the settings to manual.
 

Menelaus

Banned
sneaky77 said:
94 and 91% passing? I see Over the top thru balls are still alive and well.. ugh.
No way those passing stats are correct, from watching it.

Also, this is the 2nd vid i've seen the over the top through balls working like 11. I'm 50/50 on caring about this (since I've completely mastered the art of them).

JWong said:
Uh you can switch the settings to manual.
He doesn't want people using it against him
 

rvy

Banned
Vard said:
Oh, is that how it is in local versus? Unless I'm remembering incorrectly, you don't ever get that angle in online versus.
Yeah, that's how it is in local multi.
 
So on harder difficulties how good is the Teammate AI in fifa?

Are your defenders total idiots near the goal box?
Are the goalies idiots?
How good is the enemy AI at the late game? Are they unstoppable cheaters all of a sudden?

Fifa looks good animation and graphics wise, which I like.

Is there a lot of customization in Fifa, say, will I be able to create a player and put him on the USA team and then on say, Barcelona's team?

If I can do that then I'm in. Passing looks pretty good in that madrid v barca vid, can anyone elaborate on that little bit for me? How good is the passing game?
 

Lunchbox

Banned
is ivory coast still not in this?

they were one of the most played and most fun to play with in the world cup game. their absence in the regular game is a joke
 

rvy

Banned
Lunchbox said:
is ivory coast still not in this?

they were one of the most played and most fun to play with in the world cup game. their absence in the regular game is a joke
I think they were added this year, actually. IIRC anyway.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
Lunchbox said:
is ivory coast still not in this?

they were one of the most played and most fun to play with in the world cup game. their absence in the regular game is a joke
annoyingly perhaps, fifa is all about club play. always been really weak in terms of international teams
 
I like watching the fps stats on that video lol.

100+ fps during gameplay. You'd think they could push the graphics further... Specially when replays are always above 30fps and most of the time between 45-60.
 

Menelaus

Banned
-bakalhau- said:
I like watching the fps stats on that video lol.

100+ fps during gameplay. You'd think they could push the graphics further... Specially when replays are always above 30fps and most of the time between 45-60.
Part of me thinks that was PC gameplay...you notice a Windows-esque filepath on the bottom. I have no reason to believe you couldn't easily run it at 100fps on a PC.
 

Saty

Member
AstroLad said:
annoyingly perhaps, fifa is all about club play. always been really weak in terms of international teams
In the 90's FIFA games had pretty much all the national teams. It was only later they started to put only the main ones.
I still don't know why they can't just take all the teams from the World Cup game and shove it in the yearly releases. If disc space is a concern they can always offer it as a DLC. Dunno why it didn't happen yet.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
Saty said:
In the 90's FIFA games had pretty much all the national teams. It was only later they started to put only the main ones.
I still don't know why they can't just take all the teams from the World Cup game and shove it in the yearly releases. If disc space is a concern they can always offer it as a DLC. Dunno why it didn't happen yet.
pretty sure it's to leave the market open for releases like euro and wc.
 

fresquito

Member
I wonder why it is so hard for football devs to implement a system where defenders will cover the strikers closer than 5 meters away.

A game where defenders can't do pin point accurate passes at the speed of light would be nice too.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
fresquito said:
I wonder why it is so hard for football devs to implement a system where defenders will cover the strikers closer than 5 meters away.

A game where defenders can't do pin point accurate passes at the speed of light would be nice too.
if you turn off passing assist they definitely don't
 
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