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Final Fantasy: Record Keeper |OT| The only ATB here is Active Time Battle.
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Until Terra/Golbez/Rinoa/Vanille memory crystals, Rydia is pretty much the de-facto 2nd fiddle after Vivi, which is hilarious because she only has 3* BM since we haven't gotten that balance adjustment that bumps that. Yuna and Garnet have decent MAG stat for summoning, though.
Quistis can use -ajas but her MAG stat kinda stinks.
I'm actually getting by on r2 Breakdowns (Magic Breakdown is r3) by sticking them on someone who isn't expected to do large damage in the first place then actually staggering his turns to get the most uptime (Hence, 4 + 4 ability uses lasts ~10 turns, whih is more or less enough to carry through virtually all bosses)
Quistis can use -ajas but her MAG stat kinda stinks.
I'm actually getting by on r2 Breakdowns (Magic Breakdown is r3) by sticking them on someone who isn't expected to do large damage in the first place then actually staggering his turns to get the most uptime (Hence, 4 + 4 ability uses lasts ~10 turns, whih is more or less enough to carry through virtually all bosses)
We are talking about a difference of only 16 MAG points (148 > 132 at level 65). If you have 4* BM decently honed, I see no reason to use Rydia over Quistis, not to mention she can equip Breakdown abilities, and she is slightly less squishy, with 3883 HP versus 3408 HP for Rydia, a slightly better defense (76 > 68) and a slightly worse resistance (115 < 130 - that's a really good score for both of them).
Of course, once Rydia has access to 5* BM, she will be a better BLM than Quistis, that's for sure.
If I have r4 Thundaga on Rydia and r2 Thundaja on Quistis and they're both hitting a vulnerable boss for 9999 I'm bringing Rydia.
Point is kinda moot since those memory crystals I listed are coming rapid-fire after Eiko!
edit: j/k I'd actually bring both because Mage Meta. TIL falk is stupid for deciding between one or another character that can hit bosses for 9999
Point is kinda moot since those memory crystals I listed are coming rapid-fire after Eiko!
edit: j/k I'd actually bring both because Mage Meta. TIL falk is stupid for deciding between one or another character that can hit bosses for 9999
BassForever
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Shouldn't the ff7 core stage wutai be rocket town?
Edit: nvm I'm dumb I see what they did
Edit: nvm I'm dumb I see what they did
Apparently the EX++ boss fight of Eiko is actually 3 different stages (it is not a boss rush! - you have 3 separates stages, each with its own rewards and difficulty).
Basically, you have EX++ (1), costing 20 Stamina, EX++ (2), costing 40 Stamina, and EX++ (3), costing 60 Stamina (that last one can drop a 5* NE Orb).
In all three of them, you must bring Steiner. However, when the event was released in Japan, Steiner's MC was not included in the event. Meaning that we may have to do these fights with a level 50 (max) Steiner.
Basically, you have EX++ (1), costing 20 Stamina, EX++ (2), costing 40 Stamina, and EX++ (3), costing 60 Stamina (that last one can drop a 5* NE Orb).
In all three of them, you must bring Steiner. However, when the event was released in Japan, Steiner's MC was not included in the event. Meaning that we may have to do these fights with a level 50 (max) Steiner.
My early character relic was Rydias whip. Now that Rydia has learned Shiva I've gave her whip to Quistis. She's pretty damn good with that and Rydia can have a realm rod whenever she's in. Vivi and Rydia at the level cap now so Ice Whip Quistis is the queen for the forseeable future bar when I need my A-Team. I can see how Quistis could be lower tier without such luck though.
Some characters are very dependant on the weapons available for them, mostly ranged characters (Irvine and Sazh), to be useful.
Quistis stays interesting even without a whip, since she has access to rods, and you can equip her with at least one Breakdown ability if you need to. Of course, she truly shines with a good whip, allowing her to actually do damages with Breakdown.
*sigh* I need new stuff, but if they don't add the gacha improvement for the celebration, I don't know if I will pull.
I finally. I mastered the Turks in Pursuit EX++. I used a pretty much carbon copy of the team used in this guide on Reddit. The only difference was me using R3 Quake instead of the R4 Comet on Vivi (and the equipment obviously). Man that's nice to be over with. I hope I never have to deal with that pyramid crap again 
I finally. I mastered the Turks in Pursuit EX++. I used a pretty much carbon copy of the team used in this guide on Reddit. The only difference was me using R3 Quake instead of the R4 Comet on Vivi (and the equipment obviously). Man that's nice to be over with. I hope I never have to deal with that pyramid crap again
I will give this battle a try again Monday I guess, following this guide. Frankly, if it wasn't for the six Greater Wind Orbs, I would just forget about it: this fight is very, very RNG heavy, and Reno can pyramid-spam you to rage.
Honestly I'd save up if no % change. The current 5s mostly "get outdated" anyway outside of Vega, and that's both an outlier as well as usable as a RW summon if absolutely needed.
edit: That reddit guide really is... backwards as far as mitigation goes. Protectga/Shellga cuts all damage by about half, and only tapers off as Pyramid hits, which is 30% chance per turn. That is, a 30% chance for 1/5th of your team to lose their mitigation, per turn. Compare this with Breaks which cuts damage by approx. 1/4 (from one source, not both) per application that lasts 2 turns.
If you're constantly getting hit by Pyramids, chances are you're going to have to savescum anyway for reasons not even related to mitigation loss.
Oh well, if you beat a fight, you beat a fight. Bad or good theorycrafting resulting in the same thing doesn't matter.
edit: That reddit guide really is... backwards as far as mitigation goes. Protectga/Shellga cuts all damage by about half, and only tapers off as Pyramid hits, which is 30% chance per turn. That is, a 30% chance for 1/5th of your team to lose their mitigation, per turn. Compare this with Breaks which cuts damage by approx. 1/4 (from one source, not both) per application that lasts 2 turns.
If you're constantly getting hit by Pyramids, chances are you're going to have to savescum anyway for reasons not even related to mitigation loss.
Oh well, if you beat a fight, you beat a fight. Bad or good theorycrafting resulting in the same thing doesn't matter.
Yea I've found having an extra breakdown beyond useful.
As I've been informing everyone with increasingly obnoxious frequency, I've had Gordon filling this role since my Enhancer is one of the three or so weapons that make him useful. He's actually pretty good at it.
pancakesandsex
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Ok so WHAT are people doing to master robot of babil 2 elite? I just can't do damage fast enough and retaliate is a little unreliable for targeting.
That sounds like a very good way of making him usable alright.
Starwolf_UK
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The Aerith bangle having a rod icon? They did offer any refunds this time.
So there you have it weapons being wrong type is fine but wrong stats listed is a refund.
In that case go for losing no damage medals so you can lose the two action medals. This guide might be of use:
https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKeeper/comments/3f0x6d/a_guide_to_bitfrying_cpu_elite/
pancakesandsex
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Thanks. I was able to win and get the rdm crystal, but I have to go back for mastery eventually.
sorry for the late reply, just wanted to thank you for the tips
will play as much as I can tomorrow and start with some random characters (mainly the ones which I can put a decent equipment)
Purple Cheeto
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Are we getting Steiner's RM in this next event?
Doesn't look like it, which is a shame because I wanted to lv him up tomorrow.
Looking down the line it looks like Kimahri will be getting his memory crystal a few events down, so I'll probably lv him up for exp dungeons.
Kimahri fucking sucks.
Mental Atrophy
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About as useful as he is in FF10.
Purple Cheeto
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Yeah I was trying to figure out who to level up tomorrow. Everyone with a memory crystal is 50+ for me at this point.
Ehh. If you know what you're doing he can become broken pretty fast in FFX.
You should level him anyway if you plan on doing the bonus battles in the Eiko event.
AdawgDaFAB
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Are both characters required for boss medals?
Steiner is required for the EX++. Eiko is required for the last Elite.
BassForever
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So Steiner and Khimari are unlockable somewhere in the classic events? How much further out is Steiner I just got to the ffvi classic dungeon where they get the falcon
ActStriker
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I should play on Sundays but I never want to play on Sundays
Random Painted HIghway
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Japan is getting the new UI next weekend. Really curious to test it. The current version is already snappier than the global one for some reason on my phone.
286 ATK, which means 229 ATK with Boost. In my case, I'm using Loner/Solitude Record Materia in one char and Steiner just sitting there defending, thus I only need 216 ATK (3 empty party slots). You're guaranteed 2 easy fights: 4 Bladeblitz + 2 Roaming Warriors. I then rotate the attacking char to get another 4 Bladeblitz from a level up in the middle of the dungeon or just use a couple Growth Eggs to time it. Or you can hone Bladeblitz. Steiner started the day at 16 and is level 41 now. Debating whether to get Eiko today and level her up a bit or not.
Anyway, this pdf has values for all daily dungeons (p20): http://happypluto.com/~misterp/r/ffrk.pdf#page=20&zoom=auto,-82,355
286 ATK, which means 229 ATK with Boost. In my case, I'm using Loner/Solitude Record Materia in one char and Steiner just sitting there defending, thus I only need 216 ATK (3 empty party slots). You're guaranteed 2 easy fights: 4 Bladeblitz + 2 Roaming Warriors. I then rotate the attacking char to get another 4 Bladeblitz from a level up in the middle of the dungeon or just use a couple Growth Eggs to time it. Or you can hone Bladeblitz. Steiner started the day at 16 and is level 41 now. Debating whether to get Eiko today and level her up a bit or not.
Anyway, this pdf has values for all daily dungeons (p20): http://happypluto.com/~misterp/r/ffrk.pdf#page=20&zoom=auto,-82,355
It would be nice if we had a broader choice when it comes to Roawing Warriors. Now, we only have a total of 10 RW (all random, including 3 people who don't follow us and that we don't follow), and if the right ones don't pop (like some rare ones, ie. Celes), it means we have to spend 1 stamina at Fabul Castle to refresh the list. Puzzle and Dragons allows the players to choose anyone from their friendlist at anytime. It would be a welcomed change.
The description for them is different but they are the same thing -- KO'd or empty. They even have the same icon.
Are you mistaking FFRK for another non-RNG-based mobile game???
... I don't understand what you are saying here (especially since PAD is RNG-based; random drops, gacha system, orb-trolling, etc).
HungOverOnATues
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So, uh, as an update to this, all you have to do is re-enter the database info and save it to fix this. Embarrassed that I didn't try this earlier, but whatever.
CuthbertAllgoodz
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I agree but I have no good melee weapon for that realm, I hope to get lucky with my 100 gems pull for once.
Random Painted HIghway
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Yeah the banner blows the rod sucks steiners weapons attack is downgraded due to minimal defense boost. I'd been planning on doing an 11 pull on this, I have 91 mythril, but I'm hesitating now. I'm pretty sure I can handle the content with my four star gladius and the zantetsuken
Thinking I'll compromise with a three pull and 100 gem and save the mythril for the banners later
Thinking I'll compromise with a three pull and 100 gem and save the mythril for the banners later
firehawk12
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That is the weirdest thing. One game I play lists all friends that you can hire, and the other game I play just refreshes every time you are about to start a song. It's not even the 1 stamina, but the waste of time loading menus and doing the fight at the castle just to hope you refresh it into something you want.
Red Mage
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That is what I am debating.
CuthbertAllgoodz
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3* bow I'll never really give a shit about even at ++. 0/16 on 100 gems pulls for 5*. How do I calculate the chance to not pull a 5* in 16 pulls?
Good luck to everyone else, time for my weekly dose of salt seeing the posts of lucky people!
Good luck to everyone else, time for my weekly dose of salt seeing the posts of lucky people!
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