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Final Fantasy: Record Keeper |OT| The only ATB here is Active Time Battle.
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Starwolf_UK
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I notice now I didn't quite finish the post
. I was going to go with a point of how I sometimes do dailies or events when I'm one shard away from another stamina point+refill but have too much stamina to do the dungeon that gives the shard (as any leftover stamina is wasted) but with how expensive dungeons are these days those situations will be rarer. On the other hand number of dungeons left to do also drops.When it is equal I honestly let what RW I have decide I should do.
Any particular dramas? I had the following things happen in my run: left Cecil in the front row, let draw fire expire (so Tellah took more damage than needed) and did not use dispel on time (Cecil took a flare to the face). I also didn't bring shellga relying on the defend command and healing from hymn of the faith RW instead (it works well).
I might actually fight it again to see what difference not making some of those mistakes makes (shellga is in the air, I didn't really need mitigation but on the other hand Tellah could not really use faith on my mages due to being on dispel standby...perhaps haste instead as that worked great on the white dragon...). It won't make any medal differences but more of an idea of if can go more smoothly.
Is that FFXIII really hard? Seems like a big deal out of nothing. We already had to fight 2 ranged bosses in a row in a previous FFXIII dungeon. These days, I'm way more worried about the trash than the bosses themselves.
It's not that hard. If you're going with a mage party, you have to pay attention to the phases that absorb elements (check this). Otherwise, Retaliate works just fine or plain physical if you have enough strong weapons for everyone. Just don't forget to bring Death or Pressure Point for the last phase. It actually slipped my mind on the elite version so I had to kill an additional 100k of HP. Gladly I went with Advance, so it wasn't a problem at all.
It's not that hard. If you're going with a mage party, you have to pay attention to the phases that absorb elements (check this). Otherwise, Retaliate works just fine or plain physical if you have enough strong weapons for everyone. Just don't forget to bring Death or Pressure Point for the last phase. It actually slipped my mind on the elite version so I had to kill an additional 100k of HP. Gladly I went with Advance, so it wasn't a problem at all.
Not objectively, but it's harder than those bosses. Barthandelus is more of a pain with his high damage output and doom timer.
Valkerionseven
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Oooo this first annivary event on the Japanese version! Free characters that you missed, and memory crystals. Not to mention gil, mythril, and eggs.
ShalashaskaEx
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Whoa, those sound nice.
Star Falcon
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Hi RKGaf, More questions!
I've just unlocked the IX and XII dungeons, but stamina shard gain has dried up quite a bit. Is it better to start clearing the early Elite paintings at this stage, or would i get better XP/rewards continuing with classics at a slower pace long term? IE is Stamina increase > all.
Can you control which RW you select? Returning to front end and re-entering didn't seem to change the selection.
Is it a waste of stamina going for Golbez memory crystal? I managed to beat Rubicante in Cave of Eblan relatively comfortably, so i am only 2 stages away but the advertised difficulty jumps from 55 > 70.
Long and short is stamina doesn't seem to be as abundant as it was for first few days and wondering what best investment of it will be. Will definitely go for Mastery on the daily dungeons again tomorrow.
I've just unlocked the IX and XII dungeons, but stamina shard gain has dried up quite a bit. Is it better to start clearing the early Elite paintings at this stage, or would i get better XP/rewards continuing with classics at a slower pace long term? IE is Stamina increase > all.
Can you control which RW you select? Returning to front end and re-entering didn't seem to change the selection.
Is it a waste of stamina going for Golbez memory crystal? I managed to beat Rubicante in Cave of Eblan relatively comfortably, so i am only 2 stages away but the advertised difficulty jumps from 55 > 70.
Long and short is stamina doesn't seem to be as abundant as it was for first few days and wondering what best investment of it will be. Will definitely go for Mastery on the daily dungeons again tomorrow.
I mastered both classic and elite easily, but thanks to recent luck during the SB fest I'm able to field a full mage party with all 5* weapons. I used Tyro with the Ice Whip (counts as ranged) to apply Mental Breakdown. I also have Firaja, Waterja, Diaga, Valefor, and Shiva all at r3, along with Firaga r4 and Meteor r1.
On elite some of my members ran out of offensive spells right at the end of the 2nd boss fight, but overall I had more than enough uses for both boss fights. Had Tellah's Font of Wisdom but didn't even use it.
RW was Lunatic High. Also could have used Quistis in place of Tyro, but I have Tyro's SG mastered, though I didn't need it. With Lunatic High and everyone in back row damage was already mitigated enough, especially with Hastega making sure the boss only got 3 or 4 attacks before going down.
You have to spend stamina to reset RW list. You can do so for 1 stamina in Fabul Castle FFIV Classic. Just do one stage then retreat from the dungeon.
If you did Rubicante comfortably, do the next one. If you're still comfortable with that one, try for the MC. MC's from events don't come around again for a long time, so I would definitely at least try to clear it.
Starwolf_UK
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Notice how the classic FFIX and FFXII paintings are difficulty 43. The early elites are lower difficulty than that and many offer 2 shards per completion. Do note that FFVI stars with some difficult (and expensive) dungeons for some reason then difficulty drops massively starting with the Phantom Train (which is also very cheap in terms of stamina spend).
In terms of RW. You have to do one battle to generate another list. Classic Fabul Castle in FFIV is usually used for this. 1 stamina, 1 battle retreat from dungeon after that. If you used someone not on your friend list this is also enough to be able to add them.
Ultimately you should build up a fairly lean deck of RW friends you want to use to minimise having to do this. A good starting point would be something like 2xBoon, 2xLunatic High, 3xSentinel Grimoire, 1xAdvance (note: Advance is in very high demand and not great supply due to only ever appearing in one banner and unlikely to return, of course the Tyrfing can be pulled from any banner in theory but the chances are tiny, in short if you see the RW appear on the list you follow it and use it every day). The problem with having too many is it can become harder to find what you want or take more Also don't be afraid to clear out the list if some RW are not as useful as you hoped.
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Star Falcon
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Awesome, thanks guys! That is odd with the FF6 dungeon order difficulty. I think i'll clear a couple of these out first then, and hopefully get a couple levels by this time tomorrow to give those events a crack.
I cleared out some of the not so useful RWs. Kept the Lightning one (Blaze Rush?) and Vivi as they seem to over 9999 and have been helpful for bursting stuff down.
I cleared out some of the not so useful RWs. Kept the Lightning one (Blaze Rush?) and Vivi as they seem to over 9999 and have been helpful for bursting stuff down.
That's one 102 stamina dungeon out of the way. I've done all XIII dungeons except the last elite. The ranged ones haven't been an issue for me. I usually bring two black mages, a white mage, Wakka (with a bow) and Lightning (with the gun we got in her event). Could use Sazh with the gun, but then I can't use Lightning
At 126 stamina now
At 126 stamina now
Random Painted HIghway
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Finished with the new dungeons. The new medal calculation method really made things much easier, you can take some damage now and not be concerned. I was very pleased with my team, I restricted myself to only one level 65 character at most and did not use retaliate or advance or draw fire at all. All mages all the time, at least for the final dungeons. Sazh, wmage summoner bmage bmage is a nice setup with my abilities and equipment. Need to do the bonus quest for the greater egg I guess.
Now what, I think farm humbaba until the next event. I need a ton of greater wind orbs. And a ton of greater black orbs as well, obviously. I will be at a seminar for the next three days so will not be stamina efficient in the day time. Wifi rounds against humbaba in the bathroom hopefully will kill enough stam, will not have the time to properly farm the event bosses.
Now what, I think farm humbaba until the next event. I need a ton of greater wind orbs. And a ton of greater black orbs as well, obviously. I will be at a seminar for the next three days so will not be stamina efficient in the day time
. Wifi rounds against humbaba in the bathroom hopefully will kill enough stam, will not have the time to properly farm the event bosses.Hours Left
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Thank you Refia for dropping your second RM before I start the elites.
ShalashaskaEx
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How many people can die before you lose a medal now? Two? I had one dead character but still didn't lose any medals.
cactrotofrbc
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no new announcement today
it should be standard to have 2 event banners active at all times!
it should be standard to have 2 event banners active at all times!
no new announcement today
it should be standard to have 2 event banners active at all times!
Someone on reddit said the new event should start Thursday night, announcement should be tomorrow.
Yes, you get 1 free death without penalty.
Gaming Truth
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On that note, I think it's also 3 actions per mob now instead of the 2.? the first balance changed.
This is just from observing
I'm not sure about that. I did over 3 actions against each of the dragon trash mobs in the Golbez event, I felt for sure that I lost a medal but nada. Unless the formula changes when it is a single tough enemy rather than a normal trash wave?
Also the better requirement for the damage taken medals is AMAZING. I don't think I've lost a medal for damage since the update happened.
Hours Left
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Jecht event starting soon in Japan.
Rikku's armor looks godly. It's yet another buff type that stacks ATK.
unrelated: Was expecting Golbez's friend summon to hit for more than 14k in FFIV realm. Disappointing
These past few months DeNA has been on a crusade to put physical ATK back on the spotlight (from physical SSB being stronger, to change in damage formula, to multiple ATK buffs soul breaks and new physical abilities) and I think they have succeeded. I wonder if they have gone too far...
That RES increase had better be good (+100%) or else it'll be another disappointing magical SSB. Also weird that Tidus got a new SB before Cloud.
I woke up to finish the last dungeons, but I see the next clear will level up my stamina, but it only costs 46 and I have I full bar of 128.
White Dragon farming it is...
It turned out to be a cakewalk for me too. I realized I have a Hunter Rod now after the Soul Breakfast and I also have a Healer Staff+ . My mages just walked over it. This was my party setup: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/v...3X6hOd10MqBRNHKeEyl3vPSx7vGaYjeY=w489-h869-no
Worst case scenario, the boss is vulnerable to Poison. Just sit back and relax.
Specifically related to buffs, there are a few stacking MAG buffs too.
Since the topic of buffs came up in chat, have a copypasta
So since Rikku's armor is ATK/RES, it will only overwrite other ATK/RES buffs. Which is... uh. Yeah.
Star Falcon
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Happy to say i managed to beat Rubicante and get Golbez MC just in time!! Thanks so much everyone here for all the tips and dealing with my constant questions!
Setup i used:
Rydia lv.42 (Waterga/Stona)
Cloud lv. 41 (Blizzara Strike/Blizzard Strike)
Tellah lv.41 (Curaga/Cura)
Kain lv.40 (Magic Break/Power Break)
Golbez lv.44 (Blizzaga/Blizzara)
RW i chose was Boon which nullified his Infernos and let me get a decent number of hard hitting spells of quickly. Was actually very controlled in the end, but satisfying nontheless
Setup i used:
Rydia lv.42 (Waterga/Stona)
Cloud lv. 41 (Blizzara Strike/Blizzard Strike)
Tellah lv.41 (Curaga/Cura)
Kain lv.40 (Magic Break/Power Break)
Golbez lv.44 (Blizzaga/Blizzara)
RW i chose was Boon which nullified his Infernos and let me get a decent number of hard hitting spells of quickly. Was actually very controlled in the end, but satisfying nontheless
CuthbertAllgoodz
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Got ok luck on GSO with White Dragon by fuck Dark Bahamut... 8 kills, no drop of any kind. Blank, empty, big sad nothing. At this point I'd take 2000 gils. At least I get 50k for completing it...
HungOverOnATues
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Mastered the last of the elites. Guess it's time to farm the white dragon for the rest of the event.
Currently completing the Elites. I had a scare against Titan, since I forgot Magic Breakdown. Thanskfully I brought SG as my RW, so with a little luck I managed to kill it.
I am not looking forward doing the FFXIII battles, especially the one against the flying boss.
*sigh* I need more Luneth RW. The ones I had either disappeared or didn't connect in days. It is getting a little depressing. If any GAF member has a Luneth RW, please send me a PM, I'm interested (my RW is Tyro with SG).
I am not looking forward doing the FFXIII battles, especially the one against the flying boss.
*sigh* I need more Luneth RW. The ones I had either disappeared or didn't connect in days. It is getting a little depressing. If any GAF member has a Luneth RW, please send me a PM, I'm interested (my RW is Tyro with SG).
This shouldn't matter. I still have that Paladin Cecil with Sentinel who logged in all of once three weeks ago and 40+ days absent prior who still shows up on my FS list.
AdawgDaFAB
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The flying boss was pretty easy with a mage team. The one I'm actually dreading is Barthandelus Elite. He's the only FFXIII Elite that I haven't done yet.
Right now? Dark Bahamut at about half as lucrative the orb/stam ratio, but you get small shots at 5* Black orbs.
White Dragon is the best GSO/stamina ratio we've had since virtually forever, but I'm finding it more and more of a chore as Orb Dungeon creeps closer and closer.
Right now I'm sitting here with a full stamina bar and don't even want to take 10 minutes to empty it on white/power daily, let alone White Dragon.
OH WELL.
White Dragon is the best GSO/stamina ratio we've had since virtually forever, but I'm finding it more and more of a chore as Orb Dungeon creeps closer and closer.
Right now I'm sitting here with a full stamina bar and don't even want to take 10 minutes to empty it on white/power daily, let alone White Dragon.
OH WELL.
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