For all we know the rates are in line with what they've been in the past, people are overreacting based on a small sample size. Not to mention people are waaaay more likely to post positive pulls than negative so you're not gonna get an accurate sample regardless. It's just a bunch of salty people who want a refund and it's embarassing
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Final Fantasy: Record Keeper |OT2| I HAVE NO MYTHRIL AND I MUST SHOUT
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For all we know the rates are in line with what they've been in the past, people are overreacting based on a small sample size. Not to mention people are waaaay more likely to post positive pulls than negative so you're not gonna get an accurate sample regardless. It's just a bunch of salty people who want a refund and it's embarassing
DXLelouch153
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BassForever
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Done with the new dungeon update, and with fest over I guess tomorrow is a return to the grind of daily grinds.
https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKe...ial_response_from_dena_in_regards_to_tactics/
Really interesting wording there, slipping the word "significant" in like that. And by interesting I mean SHADY AS HELL
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Really interesting wording there, slipping the word "significant" in like that. And by interesting I mean SHADY AS HELL
DXLelouch153
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worst case scenario we can all migrate to Unchained Thursday
and Granblue with that sick Bravely Default artstyle next week
and Granblue with that sick Bravely Default artstyle next week
firehawk12
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What can they say? lol
But yeah, I figured that they wouldn't do anything. Perhaps it didn't help that they did this right after banners that were guaranteed to at least give something good... I don't know. Gachage is so janky. lol
i don't know.. there seems to be a rather large furor from this. I admit, i got jack shit from my pulls too and i found it really odd how many off banner relics i was getting. While i was pulling, i was wondering if they could actually lower rates to get more income from it but i figured i was being just crazy...
maybe not so much after all..
maybe not so much after all..
consider yourself lucky then...
i did 7 x 11 pulls + 100 gem pull.... I got 1 FFT relic (arm band) and 4 off banner relics (Shinra Helm, Assasin Dagger, Flame Shield and a Zantetsuken). I just find it so odd the amount of off banner items ppl are getting when the spotlighted items are suppose to have a "drop rate bonus".
firehawk12
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If nothing else, they certainly eroded a lot of trust in the randomness of the game.
Hell, if I was them, I would have boosted the FFT drop rates to make everyone happy and get people to spend more money that way.
Hell, if I was them, I would have boosted the FFT drop rates to make everyone happy and get people to spend more money that way.
Steeped in a Sea of Games
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"I got mine, why are these other people so whiny?" Go into the relic drop thread there; some of the stories are super sobering.
Honestly, the reddit community is awesome. It's been a massive help in mastering every event since the start and it's no surprise things have gone crazy when DeNA decides to go full-greed on the most anticipated banner. A number of people coming off as ill-informed and insufferably snobby in here.
The subreddit probably represents the most committed sector of the userbase, so you have to give them some leeway to be upset.
People have invested their money and time on this event. They should not have a preference of course. But asking for a fair trade is not insanity, they have rights to be sad. DeNA knew this banner was popular(they could have missed its powerlevel first time in japan), and all point that they use the banner popularity to make more money. It could be a mistake, an honest mistake,but they should step in and say it.
And attacking Reddit, we know most of things we know thanks to reddit, the community is awesome. They are passionate, thats not bad, there are people there investing time to make guides, datamining banners ...
And attacking Reddit, we know most of things we know thanks to reddit, the community is awesome. They are passionate, thats not bad, there are people there investing time to make guides, datamining banners ...
firehawk12
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Honestly if it was a problem for the game long term, I don't see why they didn't just nerf Shout. Maybe it like +10% attack or something. Whether or not there was malicious intent on this banner, the fact that they knew it was the most anticipated banner (I don't really pay attention and even I knew that this was the big one to spend all your mythril on) would lead to the most public outcry either way.
Steeped in a Sea of Games
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The mobile game industry is so slash-and-burn with their tactics, I'm not sure how much they even care about longevity. I'd love to see the statistician who comes up with this shit.
I think it's a matter of perspective. There's probably backlash deserved, but people have a penchant for blowing things way out of proportion on a bandwagon. Reddit genuinely is a terrible, borderline worthless cesspit of overlapping topics right now that ultimately doesn't really serve a long-term purpose thanks to this FFT banner debacle.
At this point I'm not sure if DeNA's FFRK Global team fully understand the issue, even.
Honestly if the banner rates were changed unknowingly then that's very shitty of DeNa to pull and then act dishonest when complained to.
But I don't know what's right or wrong so that's all I'm saying on this.
But I don't know what's right or wrong so that's all I'm saying on this.
I can't even remember how much mythril was wasted
There really isn't any way DeNa can address this without angering some other group.
Luck is luck, and even if they put up their gacha source code to prove that there wasn't anything devious going on, people will still feel cheated.
Then again, maybe if like 90% of the userbase suddenly don't login to the game for a couple of days, maybe that would spook DeNa into giving out another free 50 mythril
Luck is luck, and even if they put up their gacha source code to prove that there wasn't anything devious going on, people will still feel cheated.
Then again, maybe if like 90% of the userbase suddenly don't login to the game for a couple of days, maybe that would spook DeNa into giving out another free 50 mythril
which would then end up being 11 3*s anyway
DXLelouch153
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Even with lower chances a lot of people got their relics (not me lol), and higher chances don't guarantee anything.
I understand people are angry, I'm passionate about this game more than I'd like to be, but the overreaction on Reddit is a bit extreme, to say the least.
And the "I'm a day one player I deserve stuff" emails are funny as hell to me.
EDIT: Who's starting KH Unchained tomorrow? I'm actually kind of excited.
I understand people are angry, I'm passionate about this game more than I'd like to be, but the overreaction on Reddit is a bit extreme, to say the least.
And the "I'm a day one player I deserve stuff" emails are funny as hell to me.
EDIT: Who's starting KH Unchained tomorrow? I'm actually kind of excited.
DXLelouch153
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broz0rs
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I don't think we've ever come across a bandwagon banner such as this one though. It really seemed this was the big event that everyone's been waiting for months to be a part of mainly to roll one item.
I kinda wished there would have been more vocal people to say that it's perfectly fine to have Shout as an RW.
I kinda wished there would have been more vocal people to say that it's perfectly fine to have Shout as an RW.
AdawgDaFAB
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Everytime I see the new thread title, all I can think is "Shout! Shout! Let it all out. These are the Mythril I can do without. Gacha... I'm talking to you. Gacha!"
Yeah if you have wall and medica is totally fine to RW Scream. You only lose the stat difference of using Tyro over Ramza. Nothing too critical.
Im reading the pull thread and omg, the amount of people dropping 500$ or moreon this banner and getting NOTHING. I would kill myself.
Im reading the pull thread and omg, the amount of people dropping 500$ or moreon this banner and getting NOTHING. I would kill myself.
There was a lot of salt over OWA and Blazefire.
If I'm not wrong, (I probably am) Blazefire was slightly after then rolling gacha was supposed to go live, too. It also had Vega 42s as another item on the banner.
Yet here we are 8 months later.
I'd probably chargeback, lol
This is a bit like that guy in GrandBlue Fantasy, that spent 6k chasing a featured character. That lead to a big rehaul of all the gacha system in the game because the uproar and bad press.
This wont get that far for sure(ffrk is way less popular). But it would be nice to get at least the % rates like Japan has.
This wont get that far for sure(ffrk is way less popular). But it would be nice to get at least the % rates like Japan has.
OWA was what indirectly made me quit the game the first time, haha. I was really salty over the dry spell the game was giving me ever since it launched, so I used that banner as a barometer to see if I'd stick around. Got nothing, so I quit the game cold turkey.
I still don't regret it tho. I missed a fuckton of events/goodies and the chance to qualify for that dumb welcome pack, but it let me come back with an entirely different mindset to the game.
I still don't regret it tho. I missed a fuckton of events/goodies and the chance to qualify for that dumb welcome pack, but it let me come back with an entirely different mindset to the game.
I'm just looking forward to 1-stam hijinks, and Cid's Missions which essentially say "screw yo relics, u gon use A B C D E for this, and a RW"
In preparation I already Rosetta'd my strongest Katana and am working on Rosettaing my strongest gun, just so that I have a baseline ~135ATK weapon for characters that can't use swords in a particular RS, since those missions are going to end up with some really bizarre team comps.
(lv50 Quistis using breakdowns with a whip pfhahahahah)
edit: ^ for reference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWQPOkyhxak
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In my quest for the ultimate Katana I also fatfingered one Rosetta Stone
RIP Rosetta Stone.
In preparation I already Rosetta'd my strongest Katana and am working on Rosettaing my strongest gun, just so that I have a baseline ~135ATK weapon for characters that can't use swords in a particular RS, since those missions are going to end up with some really bizarre team comps.
(lv50 Quistis using breakdowns with a whip pfhahahahah)
edit: ^ for reference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWQPOkyhxak
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In my quest for the ultimate Katana I also fatfingered one Rosetta Stone
RIP Rosetta Stone.
Mental Atrophy
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Could be weirder. Sometimes I use Rosa as my support for a backup group Cura.
This is why I consider it important to have a good dagger in every record. Everybody can use them. So far I have a 5-star dagger for FF4, FF5, FF8, FF9 x2, FF10, and FF12.
Thanks for the advice. I found an old Account on My iPad with Clous tidus and some gacha weapons and wanted to Transfer it to My phone....Long Story Short: i lost the tidus and Cloud Account because i somehow transferred My Phone Data to My iPad....
I did the beginners Choice and the ff x Banner. Only 1 5 * and 2 4* out of Each.
But i got Wakka rikku and mr ronso from the Event. Cool.
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It seems that my 5* luck is based on realms. I'm all set with VII, X, XIII, and possibly FFT (though I mostly pulled generics with FFT) and absolutely nothing real in the other realms. I'm hitting the FFT banner with any mythril I can scrounge until the banner ends
The thing about Cid Mission team comps is... ONE dagger isn't enough.
Shadow SSB is incredible, but Its on a really bad banner for me, if I needed medica I would pull for sure, the rest is not very good.
I have more or less synergy covered for V(need a couple of armors here),VI(fully covered),VII(fully covered),VIII(fully covered) and IX(fully covered), serious holes on the rest.
You should first try to get both charactes on current final fantasy tactics event. They are really strong and a welcome adition to any team.
I wont rush the spend of hero souls, they are limited, keep them in case you get a relic for a character you dont have unlocked.
The best relic is hands down stormlance grimoire. It does pretty good damage, more than any relic there, also, that relic can only be obtained there.
I don't think I'll ever get over spamming Barrage with Advance tbh, but that's far, far, far in the future for a recently-started account.
edit: You can actually see what characters you can get by swapping views in the realm dungeon screen to the tree-like view. I don't recall if Tidus was ever made available through realm dungeons (when the game started he was an early bird handout, then was in a few events).
Kongbakpao doesn't show Tidus as recruitable in upcoming FFX events, not even the Braska one.
edit: You can actually see what characters you can get by swapping views in the realm dungeon screen to the tree-like view. I don't recall if Tidus was ever made available through realm dungeons (when the game started he was an early bird handout, then was in a few events).
Kongbakpao doesn't show Tidus as recruitable in upcoming FFX events, not even the Braska one.
Avoid the Buster Sword. It was the first featured 5* relic in the game, and it's been massively overshadowed by almost every other relic added since. Even some of the free gear we get on occasion is stronger than it.
Of the Beginner Banner relics, the general consensus is that Stormlance Grimoire and Tyrfing are the best picks. The former is almost at the level of the current featured gear, while the latter is a good sword for a realm that barely gets any gear along with a Soul Break that will set you up for damage for a long time. Other weapons in that list fill specific niches that depend on what your party looks like.
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