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Final Fantasy: Record Keeper |OT2| I HAVE NO MYTHRIL AND I MUST SHOUT
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LossLess009
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Nice, my 100 gems pull got me Vaan's God Mode.
It should be always like this.
So I currently have 3 BSBs: Pecil's, Vaan's and... Tiny Bee. No middle ground for me, it seems.
Now the question: what is a good ability setup for a generic Vaan? Lifesiphon + ...? Powerchain doesn't look necessary, given the BSB is instacast.
It should be always like this.
So I currently have 3 BSBs: Pecil's, Vaan's and... Tiny Bee. No middle ground for me, it seems.
Now the question: what is a good ability setup for a generic Vaan? Lifesiphon + ...? Powerchain doesn't look necessary, given the BSB is instacast.
Mental Atrophy
Banned
Lifesiphon and Thief's Revenge. Burst mode bumps his SPD high enough for five hits and it's basically a full self-heal to lighten your white mage's burden.
Mental Atrophy
Banned
This has happened to me several times. FFRK prompted replays of FF4 and FF5. Hopefully a PC port of FF12 Redo is announced sooner rather than later.
Zippedpinhead
Member
Let me preface this by saying "don't hate me"
Ok i've got a serious conundrum.
Ramza - all soul breaks, dr mog as materia, LS and full break
Lightning - BSSB and SSB Lightning optimized equipment, power chain ->full break
Pecil - BSSB and SSB- LS and saints cross
Medica (Yuna, Porom, vanille, or Garnet if in FFIX) SSBs, curaja and flex - mako instant charge
Now the last spot - Vaan and his BSSB. I can make a third LS, and thief's revenge as the other ability. My question is with the "ace striker", battle forged abilities.
Is there a third boost SB gauge with attacks and abilities than those two? I currently have them on lightning and Pecil, should I swap one to Vaan?
I also got Faris's BSSB, should she be in the mix too? If shout wasn't a thing I think her and Ramza fit the same bill BUT shout-mets is too good.
No Sentinel Grimiore, so I don't have to worry about slotting in Tyro.
I know its not likely that others have this problem, I have had a lot of luck in my pulls since lightning's BSSB released.
Ok i've got a serious conundrum.
Ramza - all soul breaks, dr mog as materia, LS and full break
Lightning - BSSB and SSB Lightning optimized equipment, power chain ->full break
Pecil - BSSB and SSB- LS and saints cross
Medica (Yuna, Porom, vanille, or Garnet if in FFIX) SSBs, curaja and flex - mako instant charge
Now the last spot - Vaan and his BSSB. I can make a third LS, and thief's revenge as the other ability. My question is with the "ace striker", battle forged abilities.
Is there a third boost SB gauge with attacks and abilities than those two? I currently have them on lightning and Pecil, should I swap one to Vaan?
I also got Faris's BSSB, should she be in the mix too? If shout wasn't a thing I think her and Ramza fit the same bill BUT shout-mets is too good.
No Sentinel Grimiore, so I don't have to worry about slotting in Tyro.
I know its not likely that others have this problem, I have had a lot of luck in my pulls since lightning's BSSB released.
TheBryanJZX90
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FFRK even made me want to play FF13.
CuthbertAllgoodz
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a.k.a. "Should I destroy this ants nest with a A-bomb or a H-bomb?"
Answer: Does not matter, you will wreck everything that is not CM with many variations of setups available with your relics. Your current available setups are the definition of maximum possible overkill at this point in Global.
For real: Steiner's Knight's Charge, 1.25x soul break gain with abilities and taking damage. (Ace Striker/Battle Forged is 1.50x, without the taking damage part).
Zippedpinhead
Member
Thanks, gracias,
I think I have that one, but if not orb fest is the time to farm materia.
PixyJunket
Member
Up to four, haha.
CuthbertAllgoodz
Member
Got Basch RM2 after killing +++ Gabranth, always satisfying and this was fitting. However, I ran the rest of the event with a party of 5 each needing a RM and nothing dropped. RNG you are funny!
Starwolf_UK
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You know how I always make fun of the official site for its various quirks (while relying on it for some ideas of strategy; Black Waltz Ultimate was a lot simpler with lureflect...)...well here is another one: Burst commands are 5* abilities. Funny thing is they removed the entrance commands
Zippedpinhead
Member
Just ran the ultimate+ event for 9. Yeah Cuthbert you were right, I'm good.
Is the next "gamechanger" OSB? Because it would be nice to not have to worry about anything other than events and orbs for a while...
Is the next "gamechanger" OSB? Because it would be nice to not have to worry about anything other than events and orbs for a while...
Knocked out the FF12 event, will level up Gabranth (I egged him to 50) and knock out the new RM's doing orbfest refreshes hopefully.
Rest of this post is me mathing for future reference so I can bookmark it and can be safely ignored
I think the final ability list I'm looking at is going to be more or less this:
Dark Zone from r1 to r3
Saint Cross from r1 to r3
Powerchain from r2 to r3
Dragoon Jump r1 to r3
Sky Grinder from r1 to r3
Memento Mori from r1 to r3
Dark Bargain to r3
Lifesiphon from r3 to r4
Lifesiphon from r3 to r4
Blood of the Wyvern from r1 to r3
Wind Jump craft to r3
Ice Jump craft to r3
Lightning Jump craft to r3
And maaaaaybe the following:
Full Charge from r2 to r3
Thief’s Revenge from r2 to r3
Banishing Strike from r2 to r3
Bio Grenade from r1 to r3
Including the maybes that puts me at needing:
Major Black - 37.8 (currently have 117)
Major Dark - 89.1 (currently have 101)
Major Earth - 97.8 (currently have 123)
Major Fire - 100.2 (currently have 98)
Major Holy - 61.8 (currently have 81)
Major Ice - 42.6 (currently have 91)
Major Lightning - 121.8 (currently have 73)
Major Non-Elemental - 75 (currently have 114)
Major Power - 151.5 (currently have 92)
Major White - 24 (currently have 103)
Major Wind - 165.7 (currently have 58)
So in terms of catching up to currently available stuff I'm only short on Lightning, Power and Wind orbs (albeit by a fair amount on all 3) with Power and Wind both being on Phase 3 and Lightning being on Phase 4 so I can probably catch up on those 3. I also have about 200k greens so I can buy orbs if needed, but trying to put that off until it's absolutely necessary of course.
However on upcoming abilities I'm looking at (all to r3):
Chain Blizzaga (releases during the Paine event, ~4-5 weeks from now)
Chain Firega (releases during a FF9 event ~2 months from now)
Chain Thundaga (releases during the Larsa event ~10 weeks from now)
Gaia Cross (releases during Onion Knight event ~3 months from now)
Chain Spellblade Thunder (releases ~5 months from now)
Chain Spellblade Blaze (releases ~5 months from now)
Chain Spellblade Blizzaga (releases ~5 months from now)
Just for the upcoming abilities I would need:
180 Black
72 Non-Elemental
108 Ice
108 Fire
108 Lightning
36 Wind
36 Earth
60 Holy
180 Power
36 Dark
Going all out if I include the maybes AND future abilities I'm looking at needing the following:
Major Black - 217.8
Major Dark - 125.1
Major Earth - 133.8
Major Fire - 208.2
Major Holy - 121.8
Major Ice - 150.6
Major Lightning - 229.8
Major Non-Elemental - 147
Major Power - 331.5
Major White - 24
Major Wind - 201.7
Outside of White I don't currently have enough of any MO's to cover the above; I'm within ~50ish on some but not even close on others. Good news is that the Chain spells are still a good ways off, and the Chain Spellbades are a very good ways off (all 3 just hit Japan within the last few events) so that gives me a good chunk of breathing room, especially on the Spellblades which account for 180 of the 331.5 MPO alone.
I can tweak and add/remove things as needed but glad I finally sat down to put something together so I can at least pretend I have a plan and specific goals to shoot for.
Rest of this post is me mathing for future reference so I can bookmark it and can be safely ignored
I think the final ability list I'm looking at is going to be more or less this:
Dark Zone from r1 to r3
Saint Cross from r1 to r3
Powerchain from r2 to r3
Dragoon Jump r1 to r3
Sky Grinder from r1 to r3
Memento Mori from r1 to r3
Dark Bargain to r3
Lifesiphon from r3 to r4
Lifesiphon from r3 to r4
Blood of the Wyvern from r1 to r3
Wind Jump craft to r3
Ice Jump craft to r3
Lightning Jump craft to r3
And maaaaaybe the following:
Full Charge from r2 to r3
Thief’s Revenge from r2 to r3
Banishing Strike from r2 to r3
Bio Grenade from r1 to r3
Including the maybes that puts me at needing:
Major Black - 37.8 (currently have 117)
Major Dark - 89.1 (currently have 101)
Major Earth - 97.8 (currently have 123)
Major Fire - 100.2 (currently have 98)
Major Holy - 61.8 (currently have 81)
Major Ice - 42.6 (currently have 91)
Major Lightning - 121.8 (currently have 73)
Major Non-Elemental - 75 (currently have 114)
Major Power - 151.5 (currently have 92)
Major White - 24 (currently have 103)
Major Wind - 165.7 (currently have 58)
So in terms of catching up to currently available stuff I'm only short on Lightning, Power and Wind orbs (albeit by a fair amount on all 3) with Power and Wind both being on Phase 3 and Lightning being on Phase 4 so I can probably catch up on those 3. I also have about 200k greens so I can buy orbs if needed, but trying to put that off until it's absolutely necessary of course.
However on upcoming abilities I'm looking at (all to r3):
Chain Blizzaga (releases during the Paine event, ~4-5 weeks from now)
Chain Firega (releases during a FF9 event ~2 months from now)
Chain Thundaga (releases during the Larsa event ~10 weeks from now)
Gaia Cross (releases during Onion Knight event ~3 months from now)
Chain Spellblade Thunder (releases ~5 months from now)
Chain Spellblade Blaze (releases ~5 months from now)
Chain Spellblade Blizzaga (releases ~5 months from now)
Just for the upcoming abilities I would need:
180 Black
72 Non-Elemental
108 Ice
108 Fire
108 Lightning
36 Wind
36 Earth
60 Holy
180 Power
36 Dark
Going all out if I include the maybes AND future abilities I'm looking at needing the following:
Major Black - 217.8
Major Dark - 125.1
Major Earth - 133.8
Major Fire - 208.2
Major Holy - 121.8
Major Ice - 150.6
Major Lightning - 229.8
Major Non-Elemental - 147
Major Power - 331.5
Major White - 24
Major Wind - 201.7
Outside of White I don't currently have enough of any MO's to cover the above; I'm within ~50ish on some but not even close on others. Good news is that the Chain spells are still a good ways off, and the Chain Spellbades are a very good ways off (all 3 just hit Japan within the last few events) so that gives me a good chunk of breathing room, especially on the Spellblades which account for 180 of the 331.5 MPO alone.
I can tweak and add/remove things as needed but glad I finally sat down to put something together so I can at least pretend I have a plan and specific goals to shoot for.
Starwolf_UK
Member
2* FFXII sword from the event? There I was thinking 3* XII gear that plagues every 11 pull was bad...
More fashionably late and playing worse than Falk with a newer SB to boot. These Cid missions are bought to you by random summer lucky draw that gave me the BSSB made for these fights. Ultimate:
RW shout. Magic lure+reflect takes pressure off and they can use their own fire spells for my medal condition. Might have been possible with start reflect RM but better save than sorry plus my spellblade damage would suffer. Eiko actually used her attack command to cure herself (that's the RM attached) the early turns can be rough with actual physical or even magical before you get all mitigation going. Perhaps swapping reflect and shellga would make sense too.
Now Ultimate+:
Shout RW. What else? That was a close call as the screenshots show (I couldn't see a HP bar on Zidaine at the paused moment that is how clutch it got, 1 KO and 1 damage medal lost). Stiener had double cast spellblade proc at the 50% HP point so yay Twister and erm Divine guardian wore off just after (despite having the SB for ages I've never been hot with this timing) so had to eat damage coming at 600 speed. Burst was initiated 3 times, 3rd being the killing blow. Maybe some resist accessories would have made sense but for 1 stamina aint nobody got time to look those up.
Ultimate+ can be a bit RNG. My first attempt was an S/L with turn 3 tidal wave hitting before I could even get full break+magic breakdown (let alone divine guardian+shellga)...that attempt also reminded me that the Zidaine BSSB has a faster charge time (as it is thief ability) than the Shout RW I cast before it so he did less damage.
As for orbfest I've been a filthy casual. 5 refreshes phase 1.
More fashionably late and playing worse than Falk with a newer SB to boot. These Cid missions are bought to you by random summer lucky draw that gave me the BSSB made for these fights. Ultimate:
RW shout. Magic lure+reflect takes pressure off and they can use their own fire spells for my medal condition
. Might have been possible with start reflect RM but better save than sorry plus my spellblade damage would suffer. Eiko actually used her attack command to cure herself (that's the RM attached) the early turns can be rough with actual physical or even magical before you get all mitigation going. Perhaps swapping reflect and shellga would make sense too.Now Ultimate+:
Shout RW. What else? That was a close call as the screenshots show (I couldn't see a HP bar on Zidaine at the paused moment that is how clutch it got, 1 KO and 1 damage medal lost). Stiener had double cast spellblade proc at the 50% HP point so yay Twister and erm Divine guardian wore off just after (despite having the SB for ages I've never been hot with this timing) so had to eat damage coming at 600 speed. Burst was initiated 3 times, 3rd being the killing blow. Maybe some resist accessories would have made sense but for 1 stamina aint nobody got time to look those up.
Ultimate+ can be a bit RNG. My first attempt was an S/L with turn 3 tidal wave hitting before I could even get full break+magic breakdown (let alone divine guardian+shellga)...that attempt also reminded me that the Zidaine BSSB has a faster charge time (as it is thief ability) than the Shout RW I cast before it so he did less damage.
As for orbfest I've been a filthy casual. 5 refreshes phase 1.
Technically right now the 'endgame' are Cid Missions, and that's highly variable depending on what you have or don't have per realm.
But yes, outside of that there aren't any real difficulty jumps till OSB comes around.
CuthbertAllgoodz
Member
This phase just don't want to give Dark Orbs of any kind... I don't dare to refresh even though I really need MDO...
Zippedpinhead
Member
After FFIV cid missions (my second best synergy) was a fail I'm thinking the only CM I can reasonably do is FF13 maybe tactics. now since I got a medica. I'm just too spread out.
AdawgDaFAB
Member
We've all been there. It sucks.
greyshark
Member
Top tier SB's just make the Cid Missions too easy - I think they were tuned with the idea that you should try them without them. You're forced to be more creative with your strategy since you're also artificially limited by which roles you can bring, but there's almost always a no SB solution.
K, i downloaded the app, hope this works (I did copy link and pasted here):
https://imgur.com/EcGcoeQ
Edit: I guess it worked but I see people have the photos show up on the forum not as a Link. How does that work?
ActStriker
Member
that looks like a falk pull
I'm known to get a shit ton of 4*s
edit: For example
edit: For example
... I nearly rolled on FFVII banner 2 by accident
edit:
THATS A LOT OF YELLOWS LOL
Mental Atrophy
Banned
Convenient. Gabranth has White-4, and that makes slotting Shellga/Protectga a lot easier.
Random Painted HIghway
Member
65 mythril to improve xii synergy nets me the judicier staff and basch defender, you can guess the three pull gained me the defender. I now have medicas via unique sbs for iii, IV, v, vii, viii, X, xii, xiii. Boostgas for v, vii, xii, Fft.
Underrated aspect t all these refreshes is clearing out old rw friends and adding some more exotic ones to the mix like edwards song of swiftness.
I netted enough summons orbs to r3 two of the future five star summons and r4 or 5 a level 4 if need be. I've probably done around 40 total refreshes and have 19 of the current characters to raise to 80 and 2 to get to 65. Then soon shantoto from 50-80, and the three new fft team from 1-80. I'm up 21m gold after dropping a load on up converting the first three orb sets. I think golbez and garland show up after the orb fest has closed, annoying,y enough.
Characters are drying up a bit now, aren't they?
After fest in event order
Golbez mc2
Garland, mc1, mc2
Cid Raines
Nothing new
strago mc2
Mog mc2
Paine to mc2
Nothing
Mc3 trickle begins
Underrated aspect t all these refreshes is clearing out old rw friends and adding some more exotic ones to the mix like edwards song of swiftness.
I netted enough summons orbs to r3 two of the future five star summons and r4 or 5 a level 4 if need be. I've probably done around 40 total refreshes and have 19 of the current characters to raise to 80 and 2 to get to 65. Then soon shantoto from 50-80, and the three new fft team from 1-80. I'm up 21m gold after dropping a load on up converting the first three orb sets. I think golbez and garland show up after the orb fest has closed, annoying,y enough.
Characters are drying up a bit now, aren't they?
After fest in event order
Golbez mc2
Garland, mc1, mc2
Cid Raines
Nothing new
strago mc2
Mog mc2
Paine to mc2
Nothing
Mc3 trickle begins
It's the beginning of the end...
Mental Atrophy
Banned
That dog will probably be playable before FF4's Cid is.
AdawgDaFAB
Member
Shortly after we reach OSB/MC3s we will return to getting a new character with nearly every event.
- FFVII -
- FFIX -
Guy (II)
Larsa (XII)
- FFX -
Noel (XIII)
- FFIV -
Onion Knight (III)
Ayame, Curilla (XI)
- FFVIII -
Leo (VI)
Angeal (VII)
Dorgann (V)
Minfilla, Alphinaud (XIV)
- FFXIII -
- FFIX -
Seymour (X)
Gaffgarion, Orlandeau (T)
Cid (IV)
- FFIX -
Guy (II)
Larsa (XII)
- FFX -
Noel (XIII)
- FFIV -
Onion Knight (III)
Ayame, Curilla (XI)
- FFVIII -
Leo (VI)
Angeal (VII)
Dorgann (V)
Minfilla, Alphinaud (XIV)
- FFXIII -
- FFIX -
Seymour (X)
Gaffgarion, Orlandeau (T)
Cid (IV)
Thanks for the help! I appreciate it.
BassForever
Member
Nothing outside of celebrations, things like Vaan's bssb are really nice but no shout level game changer has come out in Japan afaik.
PixyJunket
Member
One of Onion Knight's relics is supposed to be crazy.
Random Painted HIghway
Member
The onion Knights bssb I believe is a blended boostga Faithga allowing for mixed parties to function more efficiently, iirc.
I dream of a playable Galka from 11 or a playable Roe from 14. It may take years but idc
Random Painted HIghway
Member
Ffiv King giott. How about dr. Lugae and his monster.
Still no umaro and godo.
Still no umaro and godo.
Personally. My Ramza needs a new Sword or Bracelet.
Mental Atrophy
Banned
I would like to drop 50 Mythril on FFT, if I can afford it. Otherwise, I'm saving for the next FF5 event.
TheBryanJZX90
Member
Need to release every Cid from every game
All-Cid Cid Mission
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