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[BassForever]

The 5 stage gil turtle dungeon reminded me of the old boss rushes - planning your honed ability uses and having to strategically decide when to use your RW was fun. BSB's of course trivialize all of this but I was glad I didn't bring them - made for a more rewarding experience.

The battles themselves are pretty straightforward - Mages w/Ice spells and equip Major Blind resist accessory on your Spellblader. The 100% counter was annoying - having an SB that gave Heavy Regen really helped.

A draw fire/retaliator would eliminate the counters

 

[greyshark]

A draw fire/retaliator would eliminate the counters

Great point - basically eliminates all attacks outside of his Earth magic attack which was easily mitigated.

 

[PixyJunket]

Serah's Burst buzzsaws through the Gil Turtles, if you have it (and refills itself each round if you have Ace Striker, etc.).

 

[Anustart]

Not a lot of hype for orb fest

 

[cpp_is_king]

That works too, I guess lol.

Were you able to get the 5 MC2 lodes from the V event? I was able to clear them, I would think you should be able to also, I haven't done anything particularly special aside from spam refreshes on story dungeons and pull once on each banner with story mythril.

 

[TheBryanJZX90]

If you're just starting out or catching up orbfest is absolutely essential until you have a good amount of hones on full break, proshellga, breakdowns, and maybe a multi break. But for offensive abilities I think burst commands have decreased the importance of a lot of 4-star skills, and guaranteed 5-star draws have made it a lot more likely that everyone has some good burst commands to use. Which means orbfest is less essential.

 

[Random Painted HIghway]

This orbfest in particular is a bit of a snoozer what with the gold guys interfering with orb drops. I'm glad it's elingand won't be tempted to do Many refreshes, I have few non cores to level up anyway.



I'm struggling to find a justification to hone up reaping scythe, I have two endark physical bsbs, so I think I'm better offwith a second ability and using the command actions, particularly since doom is neededtommaxtheattack Thoughts?

 

[cpp_is_king]

This orbfest in particular is a bit of a snoozer what with the gold guys interfering with orb drops. I'm glad it's elingand won't be tempted to do Many refreshes, I have few non cores to level up anyway.

Don't the drops get better with each orbfest though? I would imagine that with each successive orbfest, they would bump the percentages of the higher tier orbs while lowering the percentage of 3* orbs. Not sure though, just speculation. If so, then even with the guys interfering with drops the bumped rate of 5* orbs could balance it out?

 

[Dragner]

This orbfest is in fact worst because you can get casino chips to change for items instead of orbs. And playing casually you can basically buy everything making future chips drop useless.

 

[WarAdept]

Anyone else been using "mage RW" (or whatever its called) meta lately.

Makes a lot of fights trivial. The general strategy is

Does enemy have elemental weakness? If yes use a BSB with that element attack skill (Rinoa, Serah, Vivi, ect). If no then use Maria BSB. (BSSB->Skill2->Skill1x4)

My general strategy is

Krile - (Weakness skills or mastery skills) + Sheep SSB
Tyro - Mind Breakdown + Full Break + SG
Relm - Curaja + protect + Curaga Medica
Arc - Curaja + sheel +Physical Blink Medica
Best Mage of that Realm with best magic gear and RM - (Weakness skills or mastery skills)

First turn

Krile -> Sheep SSB
Tyro -> SG
Arc -> Shellga
Relm -> Protectga
Best Mage of that Realm - RW

Krile will RW second turn while Tyro breaks resist, healers spam heal and Best Mage spam multi hit attack.

Basically give you mage meta without spending any 5* orbs.

Good old poverty CM strat. I used this (and many others) for CM Mote Ifrit as my VIII synergy was pure trash at the time and this was basically the only viable option.

Did it as well for CM II because I didn't pull at all either then.

Basically praying that I get Maria's BSB on Banner 2.

 

[cpp_is_king]

This orbfest is in fact worst because you can get casino chips to change for items instead of orbs. And playing casually you can basically buy everything making future chips drop useless.

Right, but you can also get orbs directly from some enemies. So if those enemies drop 5* orbs at a higher rate than previous orbfests, then it's theoretically possible that at the end of the day, even with some percentage of mobs dropping absolutely nothing, you will still come out with the same amount of orbs / stamina. Because the enemies that do drop something drop -- on average -- better stuff.

Of course this is probably jsut wishful thinking, but it seems possible at least.

 

[Anustart]

I've got 6 emulators running brave exodus. I've done 8 runs on each today, 240 pulls, 0 5 stars. Nice. Why would anyone ever dream of spending money on this obvious scheme?

If you did 240 single pulls here, you'd have 8* of every item several times over. Set for synergy for life in that realm.

 

[cpp_is_king]

I've got 6 emulators running brave exodus. I've done 8 runs on each today, 240 pulls, 0 5 stars. Nice. Why would anyone ever dream of spending money on this obvious scheme?

If you did 240 single pulls here, you'd have 8* of every item several times over. Set for synergy for life in that realm.

Fuck that game, man. I sadly spent about $300 before I saw the light. To pour salt on the wound, even if you get a 5*, it's not even a guaranteed 5* base. To put it in FFRK terms, imagine if your "guaranteed 5* on an 11 pull" was a 3* Air Knife but it was already upgraded to 5* for you. That can (and most often) does happen when you get a 5* in BE.

And then if that's not offensive enough, what do you do after you get your brand new 5* base unit that you just spent $800 on? You go set your macro to auto-play the game for you overnight, because *actually* playing the game IRL is not the most optimal way to improve your character.

 

[greyshark]

I've got 6 emulators running brave exodus. I've done 8 runs on each today, 240 pulls, 0 5 stars. Nice. Why would anyone ever dream of spending money on this obvious scheme?

If you did 240 single pulls here, you'd have 8* of every item several times over. Set for synergy for life in that realm.

I have yet to pull a 5* base in that game - but it's not really essential to have one. I have a full team of 6* characters and can clear all current content. I do agree that the gacha is beyond terrible though.

 

[Anustart]

Fuck that game, man. I sadly spent about $300 before I saw the light. To pour salt on the wound, even if you get a 5*, it's not even a guaranteed 5* base. To put it in FFRK terms, imagine if your "guaranteed 5* on an 11 pull" was a 3* Air Knife but it was already upgraded to 5* for you. That can (and most often) does happen when you get a 5* in BE.

And then if that's not offensive enough, what do you do after you get your brand new 5* base unit that you just spent $800 on? You go set your macro to auto-play the game for you overnight, because *actually* playing the game IRL is not the most optimal way to improve your character.

Which probably just happened. First rainbow crystal on noctis banner, got a locke.

 

[Secret Character]

I stopped playing FFBE when my final free summon was yet another 4* unit I had 3 of already. I mean, the game is way more unfair than Brave Frontier ever was, and they can get away with it because of the Final Fantasy brand.

 

[AdawgDaFAB]

Fuck that game, man. I sadly spent about $300 before I saw the light. To pour salt on the wound, even if you get a 5*, it's not even a guaranteed 5* base. To put it in FFRK terms, imagine if your "guaranteed 5* on an 11 pull" was a 3* Air Knife but it was already upgraded to 5* for you. That can (and most often) does happen when you get a 5* in BE.

And then if that's not offensive enough, what do you do after you get your brand new 5* base unit that you just spent $800 on? You go set your macro to auto-play the game for you overnight, because *actually* playing the game IRL is not the most optimal way to improve your character.

FFBE's core gameplay is tons of fun and I actually have gotten into the story to the point that I am anxious for new updates to see what happens next. That's why it is such a damn shame that the game has such BS gacha rates and relies so heavily on TMs which take months or $$$$$ to farm. I refuse to ever give them any money because of this crap, meanwhile I 100-gem pull on every banner here and have gotten a bunch of great 5*s from them. I don't feel so bad when I get 3*s and 4*s as a result of this.

 

[cpp_is_king]

FFBE's core gameplay is tons of fun and I actually have gotten into the story to the point that I am anxious for new updates to see what happens next. That's why it is such a damn shame that the game has such BS gacha rates and relies so heavily on TMs which take months or $$$$$ to farm. I refuse to ever give them any money because of this crap, meanwhile I 100-gem pull on every banner here and don't feel so bad when I get 3*s and 4*s, because I've gotten a bunch of great 5*s from them.

Yea I really like the story, it's just sad that that's the only interesting part of the gameplay. I'm the kind of guy that would spend a fucking shitload (for better or worse) of money on your game if it's rewarding, but when the first thing people want to do after spending money on your game is quit, it's no wonder they aren't doing well financially.

Which probably just happened. First rainbow crystal on noctis banner, got a locke.

Yup, welcome to FFBE

 

[Dragner]

This had once a terrible gatcha like FFBE. But right now with G5 great banner structure, a lot of free mythril and lucky banners theres not a ton of games that rewards you so much for so little effort.

 

[Anustart]

All those fails got me wanting to pull on 5 banner here.

Someone talk me out of it.

This had once a terrible gatcha like FFBE. But right now with G5 great banner structure, a lot of free mythril and lucky banners theres not a ton of games that rewards you so much for so little effort.

Yeah, I originally quit this game like 6 months after release because all I ever got from pulls was bullshit.

 

[WarAdept]

All those fails got me wanting to pull on 5 banner here.

Someone talk me out of it.



Yeah, I originally quit this game like 6 months after release because all I ever got from pulls was bullshit.

We have Orbfest in just over 5 hours.

Banner 1.

 

[Advocatus Diaboli]

Still playing and enjoying FFBE, but I've been lucky, and luck should not determine how much you enjoy a game. (It's sad: I like the story.)

FFRK is also way more polished, fairer, and requires much less of a time sink: it respects players' time more, which I absolutely appreciate. And it's great that the "bonus content" is Ultimate+ or Cid Missions, which you don't NEED to complete to progress. And then there's fest banners, holiday rewards (still rocking the Pumpkin), and Orbfests. I'll do a $1 pull on each banner without hesitation, whereas it's increasingly unlikely that I'll send any additional funds Gumi's way.

 

[Anustart]

We have Orbfest in just over 5 hours.

Banner 1.

But banner 1 is 4 days away

I must persevere!

 

[cpp_is_king]

This had once a terrible gatcha like FFBE. But right now with G5 great banner structure, a lot of free mythril and lucky banners theres not a ton of games that rewards you so much for so little effort.

I don't think this game's gacha was ever as bad as BE, and I was here on day 1. Yes RK used to not have guaranteed 5*, but even when there was no guaranteed 5*, the 5* rate was still about 5* and it's absolute worst, whereas in BE the odds of pulling a 5* base are probably less than 1%.

 

[greyshark]

With this game it never makes sense to whale on a single item - your mythril gets more valuable every month as the banners get progressively better. Think of all the people that originally whales for Shout or Wall - it's a consolation prize on the OSB fest banners.

 

[cpp_is_king]

With this game it never makes sense to whale on a single item - your mythril gets more valuable every month as the banners get progressively better. Think of all the people that originally whales for Shout or Wall - it's a consolation prize on the OSB fest banners.

I remember back in the day before banner mechanics were known and people thought all 5* were equally likely, a guy spent over $2000 trying to get a Sentinel's Grimoire and then sent a message to support complaining that the game was false advertising because he didn't get SG (even though it wasn't advertised on any banner), and they wrote back saying the game was working as intended. He posted about it on some forum, but I don't think there's any way I could find it now even if I tried.

 

[Dragner]

With this game it never makes sense to whale on a single item - your mythril gets more valuable every month as the banners get progressively better. Think of all the people that originally whales for Shout or Wall - it's a consolation prize on the OSB fest banners.

But thats happening always in any gacha games. You cant avoid powercreep. But as you say, pull with knowledge of this...I whaled once for a SSB that I dont use anymore. I could buy a PS4 today with that money.

 

[AdawgDaFAB]

I remember back in the day before banner mechanics were known and people thought all 5* were equally likely, a guy spent over $2000 trying to get a Sentinel's Grimoire and then sent a message to support complaining that the game was false advertising because he didn't get SG (even though it wasn't advertised on any banner), and they wrote back saying the game was working as intended. He posted about it on some forum, but I don't think there's any way I could find it now even if I tried.

On the subject of crazy spenders back then, remember the dude who dropped thousands into the Japanese game to get 7* of everything and then wrote his huge guide on what relics everyone should and shouldn't chase?

 

[Anustart]

But thats happening always in any gacha games. You cant avoid powercreep. But as you say, pull with knowledge of this...I whaled once for a SSB that I dont use anymore. I could buy a PS4 today with that money.

I gotta know. What did ya whale for?

 

[Dragner]

I gotta know. What did ya whale for?

Lightning SSB, whaled for it, didnt get it, then got it first try on SSB fest, and now I dont use lightning even having her Burst (got it from a lucky draw). To be fair she was useful against Cagnazzo.

 

[BassForever]

On the subject of crazy spenders back then, remember the dude who dropped thousands into the Japanese game to get 7* of everything and then wrote his huge guide on what relics everyone should and shouldn't chase?

Yeah and he said like lightings original relic was top tier? Lol

 

[Anustart]

Where's the guy who averages like 14 major orbs per stam refresh? Figured he'd be jumping for joy for a new fest.

 

[Balphon]

Yeah and he said like lightings original relic was top tier? Lol

To be fair, it was at the time.

 

[Anustart]

What do with major white orbs? Holy doesn't seem like a good investment.

 

[Dragner]

Yeah and he said like lightings original relic was top tier? Lol

Theres a crazy Japanese guy in reddit that post images of his absurd whalings. When star wars rogue 1 release he posted an image of a team with all the members with 7-8* copies of edgar OSB and 7* crystal helms imitating stormtroopers. He basically spends like 1k $ each event.

 

[WarAdept]

What do with major white orbs? Holy doesn't seem like a good investment.

Ultra Cure, Fires Within, Tiamat

 

[Kyari]

I remember back in the day before banner mechanics were known and people thought all 5* were equally likely, a guy spent over $2000 trying to get a Sentinel's Grimoire and then sent a message to support complaining that the game was false advertising because he didn't get SG (even though it wasn't advertised on any banner), and they wrote back saying the game was working as intended. He posted about it on some forum, but I don't think there's any way I could find it now even if I tried.

Oh man I remember that, that was great. I didn't realise he wasn't pulling on a banner that advertised SG.

 

[cpp_is_king]

On the subject of crazy spenders back then, remember the dude who dropped thousands into the Japanese game to get 7* of everything and then wrote his huge guide on what relics everyone should and shouldn't chase?

Yea I actually found a link to that post on recordkeeperforums.com, but I guess it's too old because it says the post has been deleted.

Oh man I remember that, that was great. I didn't realise he wasn't pulling on a banner that advertised SG.

Yea, the funny thing was at the time everyone was like "damn man, yea SG is just rarer than everything else" but nobody really understood that off-banner is like 0.1% so you can realistically only pull on-banner items reliably.

 

[zerokoolpsx]

I've got 6 emulators running brave exodus. I've done 8 runs on each today, 240 pulls, 0 5 stars. Nice. Why would anyone ever dream of spending money on this obvious scheme?

If you did 240 single pulls here, you'd have 8* of every item several times over. Set for synergy for life in that realm.

Wow, 240 pulls. Geez when I used all my tickets for Lightning and didn't get her. I thought that was just bad luck lol. Not gonna even try for Noctis.

I'm gonna pull on Banner 1 and hold off on Banner 3 until whatever remaining mythrils I have left after FFXIV banner. I don't want to chase relics, but I might have to on that banner.

 

[BassForever]

Oh man I remember that, that was great. I didn't realise he wasn't pulling on a banner that advertised SG.

To be fair in the early days I didn't really understand how banners worked either.

 

[CuthbertAllgoodz]

The guy I remember was after Healing Grimoire, making the story that much worse...

 

[Balphon]

Oh man I remember that, that was great. I didn't realise he wasn't pulling on a banner that advertised SG.

It's funnier than that: it was actually Healing Grimoire he was trying for, not SG.

 

[cpp_is_king]

It's funnier than that: it was actually Healing Grimoire he was trying for, not SG.

lol, I didn't remember that. Yea that's pretty lol

 

[Anustart]

Wish osb fest started with golden roullette. im itching to pull.

I need to look at the banners again. believe theres a possible dupe for me on each.

 

[Dragner]

Healing Grimoire is anti-powercreep. to this day is still the medica with greater potency. Kappa.

 

[Balphon]

Healing Grimoire is anti-powercreep. to this day is still the medica with greater potency. Kappa.

If only it didn't cost 2 bars.

 

[Syntsui]

Were you able to get the 5 MC2 lodes from the V event? I was able to clear them, I would think you should be able to also, I haven't done anything particularly special aside from spam refreshes on story dungeons and pull once on each banner with story mythril.

Nah, didn't even try. I didn't pull on FF V banner and I already struggled against ExDeath, so I won't waste the stamina.

The important lodes anyway are nowhere to be claimed, which are Tyro/Devout/Tidus/Cloud. I'll use the ones they give us for free.

 

[cpp_is_king]

Nah, didn't even try. I didn't pull on FF V banner and I already struggled against ExDeath, so I won't waste the stamina.

The important lodes anyway are nowhere to be claimed, which are Tyro/Devout/Tidus/Cloud. I'll use the ones they give us for free.

Fair enough, although the following 2 fights were honestly a bit easier than I expected. The first one is the hardest because it has 2 fights, but somehow even though I got to the second fight with very few ability hones remaining, it seemed pretty trivial. A single mythril refresh between fights would make it definitely trivial, as you can just OSB it down in 2 hits with a powerful RW.

The one after that is actually *very* easy, probably easier than Exdeath so it's almost like a freebie. I had Gilgamesh's masamune, and that probably made a difference, but other than that I only used Bartz and Gilgamesh, which I levelled up to ~50 entirely from the Growth eggs obtained during the event.

I still think it's doable, and I daresay even easy if you're willing to use even 1 mythril to refresh between stages. What makes it a D100 is that there's 2 bosses back to back, but as a result of that, each of those 2 bosses is easier than Exdeath by himself.

 

[Anustart]

Nah, didn't even try. I didn't pull on FF V banner and I already struggled against ExDeath, so I won't waste the stamina.

The important lodes anyway are nowhere to be claimed, which are Tyro/Devout/Tidus/Cloud. I'll use the ones they give us for free.

Tyro have a good rm i take it? i forget who has what. except that im trying to get ace striker to drop. last one i need really.

 

[Starwolf_UK]

Did the FFV event ignored the turtles as I don't need gil, got around to beating the FFVII Ultimate ++ (I didn't see flare but I kind of did a few BSSB entries back to back to end the fight, I think not mastering the Swordshower SB helped me as had I had that mastered I would have used it instead of eternal wind and the forced stuns gave me enough time to not see flare as I did see the scripted black hole and cluster sphere) and then did normal dungeons forgetting what I was doing and getting a 5th stamina shard, wasting some stamina in the process (plus no free orbfest stamina refresh).

If only it didn't cost 2 bars.

It is still the strongest medica with h104 (Curaja is h105) and it was out in a time when medica were what half as strong as that but you don't need that kind of potency and 2 bars makes it really impractical. Kind of makes me wonder if it would have been better to have an SB that could be used as 1 or 2 bar but that would be too flexible and it was better 2 bar SB just died out.

Still it's better than the other two 2 bar relics which are both shared SBs; Organyx w/Bladestorm Rend (AoE phy x2.8) and Holy Rod w/Aurora of Disaster (wht x8.6 holy)

Spoiler

Silly Organyx was on a festival banner at some point which is how I ended up with it...it's not even a good stat stick being FFVI realm and weaker than a Zantetsuken that was literally give away for free